#archiveteam-bs 2019-11-23,Sat

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00:14 🔗 Raccoon those don't even display for me. probably some SMP plane-1 emojis i'm guessing. many irc clients wouldn't even be able to handle them.
00:17 🔗 JAA Yeah, that as well (though then the clients are buggy).
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00:49 🔗 hook54321 whoever Wessel1512 is, we already have a wiki page for Yahoo! Groups.
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08:45 🔗 LowLevelM Have we decided on an irc channel for plays.tv?
08:47 🔗 markedL #stops.tv on irc.hackint.org
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15:18 🔗 arkiver why hacking
15:18 🔗 arkiver let's do plays.tv here
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16:22 🔗 JAA Because unlike EFnet, hackint doesn't suck.
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16:49 🔗 astrid efnet doesn't suck
16:51 🔗 ivan efnet has one remaining .se region that doesn't flake up and down all the time
16:52 🔗 JAA No services and constant netsplits and server downtimes. Neither of those are a thing on hackint.
16:52 🔗 astrid i don't like services
16:52 🔗 JAA Yes, I too enjoy losing ops.
16:53 🔗 astrid services are a complicated hassle
16:53 🔗 JAA Idk, seems less complicated than running bots like svchfoo* to auto-op users when they return.
16:54 🔗 JAA Which frequently breaks for numerous reasons.
16:54 🔗 astrid jaa do you not remember the huge hassle we had literally last week
16:55 🔗 JAA When you registered? Yeah, I don't know what happened there, but I haven't seen any issues like that.
16:55 🔗 astrid well i did
16:55 🔗 astrid last week
16:57 🔗 JAA Maybe I could tell you what went wrong if I knew exactly what commands were executed against *Serv (both by you and whoever added you to the group).
16:57 🔗 JAA I'm just tired of being disconnected every few days, having to go through the channels and check which ones are almost op-less, ask for ops back, etc.
16:58 🔗 astrid ive been on irc most of my adult life and services cause 90% of problems
16:58 🔗 JAA So have I, and I've never had any issues with services.
16:58 🔗 astrid i do not and will not support moving archiveteam off efnet
16:59 🔗 JAA Well, nothing major anyway.
16:59 🔗 astrid if we're going to use a miserable unfriendly protocol like irc then why would we use a network that tries to make it better. we have chosen misery and decay.
17:01 🔗 JAA Every communication protocol has its issues. Services work around a major one on IRC and have been doing so for decades.
17:01 🔗 JAA If you have a better idea how we could solve the problems mentioned above, I'm all ears.
17:02 🔗 astrid i dont want to continue this argument. you know my position and i know yours and i don't think either of us are going to change
17:02 🔗 astrid truce, at least for a while?
17:02 🔗 JAA <3
17:02 🔗 astrid <3
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