#archiveteam-bs 2019-12-24,Tue

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00:09 🔗 arkiver do we have a channel for japlog?
00:10 🔗 arkiver yaplog*
00:10 🔗 arkiver ping JAA ^
00:18 🔗 JAA Nope
00:19 🔗 JAA But also there are some more urgent things than yaplog.
00:19 🔗 JAA Bot sure if anyone has started working on BlackBerry World?
00:19 🔗 JAA Not*
00:27 🔗 arkiver JAA: can you list the more urgent things please?
00:28 🔗 arkiver I'm mostly checking #archiveteam
00:28 🔗 arkiver but for example there's no mention of blackberry there
00:30 🔗 markedL appears the corporate announcement is from 2017/12 and the AT wiki updated 2018/12... both for 2019/12
00:30 🔗 arkiver ah I see it's on deathwatch
00:30 🔗 arkiver alright
00:31 🔗 JAA Yeah, I try to keep that list updated now since it's the easiest way to keep an overview.
00:31 🔗 arkiver yep
00:31 🔗 arkiver thank you!
00:33 🔗 markedL canon arista is not on here
00:34 🔗 markedL nm, it's in Jan
00:34 🔗 JAA Yeah, because that doesn't exist. It's Irista, and that's on it.
00:34 🔗 arkiver alright will get a bunch running
00:41 🔗 arkiver right so normally account needs to be connected with a blackberry phone
00:42 🔗 arkiver anyone here have a blackberry phone?
01:34 🔗 atphoenix I don't have one, but if I did, I have a SIM that could go in one. But I don't know if that is enough, or if mobile carrier also needs to provision BEM or BES access. I mention that because someone else in the family had a Blackberry years ago, and that access was listed on our bill as a line-specfic feature.
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01:55 🔗 JAA atphoenix: FYI, Deathwatch is not intended for links to archives, only as a collection of "look how much shit is getting deleted all the time". Also, we had a project for ASSEMbler ourselves.
01:55 🔗 Myself I don't know if my box of scrapberries still has any functional units in it, but it'd be interesting trying to activate one now. AFAIK, providers used to sell a different "blackberry plan" but I was never clear on what was different about it.
01:57 🔗 atphoenix I didn't see an Assemblers wiki article
01:57 🔗 atphoenix and it appeared the site is not working ATM
01:57 🔗 JAA Actually, not a project, just an ArchiveBot job.
02:32 🔗 atphoenix FWIW, I had added those links because I thought they were in-tune with the various IA/Webcite links and mirror links scattered throughout the page near other entries.
02:35 🔗 JAA The "IA/Webcite links" are just what happens when you use the {{URL|...}} template because obviously those links won't last forever/long. I don't see any links to mirrors on Deathwatch except for some very old entries.
02:37 🔗 JAA The thing is, if we are to include links to the archives for every entry on that page, it will become even messier than it already is.
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02:39 🔗 atphoenix Maybe turning the sections into tables with columns would help things?
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02:40 🔗 JAA Perhaps, but on the other hand, the URLTeam page is structured liked that and is an absolute mess.
02:42 🔗 atphoenix I was thinking about that page too. Both pages are messy, but in different ways...
02:43 🔗 JAA Yeah
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02:47 🔗 atphoenix Rhetorical observation on the woes of AT: To try to limit the data burn? Or to focus on team process/documentation improvements that may limit future data burn by bringing more people into the tent? I guess the former has priority, with hope for dev time in the gaps between fires.
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07:40 🔗 HP_Archiv What's the status on those Lego sites?
07:44 🔗 Ryz Hello HP_Archiv - to check on the status of the LEGO websites that's being archived through AB, check the dashboard like http://dashboard.at.ninjawedding.org/beta
07:47 🔗 HP_Archiv Oh right, thank you for that ^^
07:47 🔗 HP_Archiv But how do I know if the site has been archived properly or thoroughly?
07:49 🔗 Ryz Usually it would take a couple of days for the content to be uploaded to WBM (uploading occurs while the job is active most of the time, not when the job's completed),
07:51 🔗 Ryz For thoroughly, keep in mind of AB's limitations in regards to mainly trying to go through JS; I'd say almost all of the websites may have some replication quirks or errors; it would have to be really simple websites that would be a 1-to-1 copy I think
07:51 🔗 HP_Archiv Hm, okay. Noted. Thanks for pointing this out, Ryz. Appreciate that
07:53 🔗 Ryz I admittedly haven't checked most of the websites on how archived they are, but there's probably always something that's missed~
08:09 🔗 HP_Archiv Someone previously mentioned in here that you should always check to make sure everything has been captured/look to see what errors occurred. I wouldn't know where to begin outside of a very simple 1-page site, etc
08:21 🔗 Ryz Unfortunately I feel that would require a lot of manual checking :c
08:22 🔗 Ryz Alternatively, you could check how the URLs are archived by checking the uploaded logs associated to said finished job...which is very big to open and may need a specialized program that's not just vanilla Notepad
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14:35 🔗 godane so this maybe interesting to archive at some point: https://valid.x86.fr/show_oc.php?id=2368
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17:08 🔗 SootBectr re; blackberry, here's a working link for the BBOS7 simulators: https://swdownloads.blackberry.com/Downloads/entry.do?code=060AD92489947D410D897474079C1477
17:09 🔗 SootBectr I installed 7.1.0.98 for tbe Bold 9900, it boots up but a subprocess crashes when it tries to access the internet. This is on a Win7 VM.
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21:21 🔗 pnJay Nice!
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22:33 🔗 Raccoon godane: archive cpu-z benchmark submissions?
22:36 🔗 godane i figure it would be a good idea at some point to archive it cause that link goes back to 2005
22:36 🔗 godane maybe a way to see specs of what computers was used on that site
22:40 🔗 Raccoon ah
22:41 🔗 Raccoon strange that it shows a screen shot of one tab, rather than an exhaustive text printout of every spec from all tabs
22:58 🔗 godane i only found out about that site cause i trying to find more canard pc magazines
23:00 🔗 Ryz !ig ekuuxjgdwjb9tinasqv5gh6p8 ^https?://www\.bostonglobe\.com/pf/dist/template/
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