#archiveteam-bs 2019-12-27,Fri

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01:43 πŸ”— godane so looks like one of the japanese manuals i got has 20+ langs
01:44 πŸ”— godane anyways you going to be getting some Aspire manuals in the 102xxx range
02:06 πŸ”— JAA godane: Check #archivebot please, I had a question about one of your jobs.
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19:29 πŸ”— SketchCow FOS is, at least temporarily, handled and not hitting resource issues for archivebot.
19:29 πŸ”— SketchCow I also paid money to renew archivebot.com for another year.
19:29 πŸ”— SketchCow I should really see about us setting up some permanent organizational structures for archive team.
19:30 πŸ”— SketchCow It's volunteer, and setting up, you know, articles of confederation would be problematic, but at least a set of people who are involved would be good
19:30 πŸ”— SketchCow Taking some of the raised money and renewing archivebot.com for 50 years or something.
19:31 πŸ”— ivan ten years is the max
19:31 πŸ”— SketchCow The max what
19:32 πŸ”— SketchCow I have had offers to renew a domain for a century
19:32 πŸ”— ivan hmm
19:33 πŸ”— ivan "the 10-year registration term maximum limitation" for .com https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/appendix-07-2012-12-07-en
19:40 πŸ”— SketchCow https://www.networksolutions.com/domain-name-registration/popup-100-yr-term.jsp
19:40 πŸ”— SketchCow Ah, here's how they did it.
19:41 πŸ”— SketchCow By you pre-paying them and then tacking on the additional years on a rolling basis.
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19:48 πŸ”— SketchCow I am sure they got rammed for this trickery
19:48 πŸ”— SketchCow OK, then, points to avan
19:48 πŸ”— SketchCow ivan
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20:42 πŸ”— atphoenix shutdown notice for 8tracks.com on 12/31/2019 https://twitter.com/8tracks/status/1210641993115820034
20:44 πŸ”— atphoenix appears to have a lot of audio content, e.g. https://8tracks.com/wildernessqueen/nothing-lasts-forever
20:44 πŸ”— atphoenix https://blog.8tracks.com/2019/12/26/to-everything-there-is-a-season/
20:59 πŸ”— atphoenix audio is available as .m4a files e.g. https://8tracks.com/wildernessqueen/i-haven-t-been-myself-lately plays https://dtp6gm33au72i.cloudfront.net/catalog_tracks/178/157/849/JTHT8X.48k.v3.m4a
21:03 πŸ”— atphoenix no login req for basic playback. Next button gets another .m4a. Chrome Dev tools, set to filter for media can show this.
21:05 πŸ”— atphoenix appears cookies aren't needed to access the cloudfront URLs
21:06 πŸ”— Raccoon if only there was a secret word to get cloudfront to serve up folder listings
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22:19 πŸ”— JAA 5 days, ugh.
22:19 πŸ”— JAA Well, 4 now.
22:20 πŸ”— atphoenix yep. I posted some details above in IRC
22:21 πŸ”— JAA I saw. Any idea about the size (number of tracks or whatever)?
22:21 πŸ”— JAA "over 2 million playlists"
22:21 πŸ”— JAA Oh god.
22:21 πŸ”— atphoenix yes...
22:30 πŸ”— atphoenix Spot check of 2 songs show links to video of same song over the YouTube
22:30 πŸ”— LowLevelM Ping me if you need a scraper made
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22:30 πŸ”— atphoenix e.g. https://8tracks.com/wildernessqueen/you-should-stay-away-from-me and https://8tracks.com/wildernessqueen/nothing-lasts-forever
22:31 πŸ”— atphoenix I don't have experience building a scraper, but I can identify some structure
22:32 πŸ”— tech234a There’s also an API.
22:35 πŸ”— Raccoon didn't fine a way to score the m4a's with wget, but youtube-dl seems to want to work -- but only on direct track urls, not on channel urls.
22:35 πŸ”— Raccoon didn't actually complete a test because I'm geoip blocked from their site at the moment.
22:37 πŸ”— atphoenix wget works for me to grab https://dtp6gm33au72i.cloudfront.net/catalog_tracks/178/157/849/JTHT8X.48k.v3.m4a
22:37 πŸ”— atphoenix that's the example I listed above
22:37 πŸ”— Raccoon atphoenix: i mean to set-it and forget-it.
22:37 πŸ”— Raccoon wget -r
22:39 πŸ”— Raccoon but i lost interst when i discovered it's not an archive of digitized 8track tapes, so I'm meh'ing out.
22:41 πŸ”— atphoenix If all the pages/playlists are scraped, maybe all the media URLs can be extracted and scraped as a side thread? What I don't know is if the site contains unique stuff, or reposs.
22:41 πŸ”— atphoenix reposts*
22:56 πŸ”— SootBectr "In early 2016, 8tracks.com stopped offering streaming music via it's app to the 90% of the world's population that lives outside the United States and Canada, and instead started to use YouTube videos"
22:57 πŸ”— SootBectr Same goes for the website front-end
22:57 πŸ”— SketchCow What a mess.
22:57 πŸ”— SketchCow Make a group, take a shot!
22:57 πŸ”— SketchCow #8ball
22:57 πŸ”— SketchCow That'll get 8tracks organization AND people seeking cocaine
22:57 πŸ”— SketchCow win-win
23:11 πŸ”— atphoenix SketchCow: is it alright if the fandom community posts a link via Twitter to IRC EFNET #8ball ?
23:16 πŸ”— nicolas17 link to a web IRC client?
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23:17 πŸ”— atphoenix either that, or simply to mention "EFNet #8ball as a channel for an 8tracks effort
23:19 πŸ”— SketchCow I mean...
23:19 πŸ”— SketchCow It'll probably be not as enjoyable as they might like
23:20 πŸ”— SketchCow I find the Venn Diagram of "Fan Community" and "works well with Archive Team" is tiny
23:21 πŸ”— atphoenix I'm mostly looking at it from the "is it acceptable to share" perspective. I'm guessing yes, as we do publicize these IRC channels on the AT wiki
23:22 πŸ”— nicolas17 figuring out how to get into IRC might filter out the worst noobs?
23:23 πŸ”— atphoenix simply mentioning the IRC channel and server should be enough to provide that filtering
23:26 πŸ”— SketchCow We do
23:27 πŸ”— SketchCow I'm just saying the value extracted tends to be..... minimal
23:27 πŸ”— SketchCow And you add a lot of "MAH ZEITGEIST STOLEN BY YOU THIEEEEVVVESSS"
23:30 πŸ”— atphoenix Don't know what to say about zeitgeist thing. There are definitely different attitudes to what can be saved/linked to/backed up out there. Much of which I think comes from not understanding the tech being used...or from not taking ownership over data.
23:31 πŸ”— atphoenix BTW there is a plus version. 14 day free trial of 8tracks.com. Hides the ads and unlimited streaming. The free trial runs out after the announced shutdown date. https://8tracks.com/plus
23:32 πŸ”— JAA Or from not understanding what publishing means.
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