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02:09 🔗 JAA Now seems like a good time to shamelessly plug this again: https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=User:JustAnotherArchivist/hackint_vs_EFnet
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03:20 🔗 JAA Lord_Nigh: Did you misread "hackint" as "hacking"?
03:20 🔗 Lord_Nigh yes
03:20 🔗 JAA https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=User:JustAnotherArchivist/hackint_vs_EFnet
03:21 🔗 JAA hackint.org
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03:45 🔗 atphoenix is EFnet working again? lost connection for a few hours
03:46 🔗 JAA Was EFnet ever working? :-)
03:53 🔗 Frogging it's working now
03:53 🔗 JAA for now*
03:54 🔗 JAA I bet there'll be more issues today.
03:54 🔗 Frogging ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
03:59 🔗 astrid efnet works fine
04:00 🔗 astrid i haven't been on the wrong side of a netsplit in a long time
04:00 🔗 astrid i don't know what you all are doing wrong
04:02 🔗 atphoenix are there certain EFnet servers I should remove from my EFnet server list?
04:02 🔗 atphoenix i.e. to force my client to always use the same one that you guys stay on?
04:03 🔗 atphoenix had trouble connecting for the past 4 hours
04:05 🔗 JAA astrid: I mean, the fact that there are so many netsplits in the first place clearly points to there being an issue. Cf. the little statistic at the end of the wiki page linked above.
04:05 🔗 astrid atphoenix: /whois me and you'll see what server i'm on
04:05 🔗 astrid whatever it is, it has been really stable
04:05 🔗 JAA "Wrong side" is relative anyway, but I've definitely seen netsplits with "160 people quit" (which irssi helpfully collapses instead of showing one quit line for each user).
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04:06 🔗 atphoenix I see [astrid] irc.servercentral.net :Server Central Network
04:06 🔗 JAA Server Central is what we were using for a while on ArchiveBot until it kept breaking.
04:06 🔗 astrid idk whatever
04:07 🔗 astrid the internet is a big mess in general
04:07 🔗 astrid it has weather
04:08 🔗 atphoenix http://internettrafficreport.com/ is still alive! US/EU looks okay
04:08 🔗 JAA True, but that doesn't mean we can't strive for a better experience. And hackint offers an objectively better experience.
04:08 🔗 atphoenix or maybe not alive? last update button says 11/20/2018???
04:09 🔗 atphoenix hackint has been very stable for me too
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04:10 🔗 JAA But I really need to go to bed now. Happy New Year everyone!
04:10 🔗 atphoenix I need to try irssi. HexChat doesn't collapse the netsplits. Lets me hide them completely but not collapse them.
04:10 🔗 atphoenix thanks JAA! HNY all!
04:12 🔗 atphoenix astrid: if there is a vote, I'd like to for hackint :) Or maybe specify that AT folks use a specific EFnet server so we don't get split
04:13 🔗 astrid there was a vote, apparently 4 out of 7 people chose hackint
04:13 🔗 * astrid rolls her eyes
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04:25 🔗 Somebody2 The relevant vote is where the people doing the work chose to discuss the work they are doing.
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04:26 🔗 Somebody2 and that seems to still be split (which, frankly, is fine)
04:26 🔗 * Somebody2 is on both, for now (but I don't do that much work)
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05:05 🔗 astrid Somebody2: yeah
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05:51 🔗 nicolas17 maybe there should be a bot bridging efnet and hackint, then people on hackint can complain about the bot being annoying and tell people to join hackint instead
06:10 🔗 astrid lmao
06:19 🔗 nicolas17 on a more serious note, such a bridge bot would prevent the chat from being split...
06:19 🔗 nicolas17 anyway
06:19 🔗 nicolas17 anyone grabbing uspto?
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06:20 🔗 nicolas17 hmmm I don't think I have the storage to grab it myself
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06:25 🔗 nicolas17 ok I see on the reddit post that several people are downloading so I'll do nothing
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07:52 🔗 LowLevelM astrid: In my poll (https://www.strawpoll.me/19068933/r) 16 of 22 voted for hackint (73% for hackint)
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08:14 🔗 kode54 heh
08:14 🔗 kode54 this set of channels is the first time I've ever heard of hackint
08:21 🔗 SketchCow It kind of slipped in the back door
08:21 🔗 SketchCow It's a coup
08:21 🔗 SketchCow But I like coups
08:22 🔗 SketchCow They give everyone exercise
08:22 🔗 kode54 I actually stayed connected throughout whatever the hell that was
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11:17 🔗 Raccoon I discovered a pretty sizable archive group dealing in SWF flash games and animation, based around the project BlueMaxima's Flashpoint. (https://bluemaxima.org/flashpoint/) They seem to have their crap together with archivists and curation, with an official download of 253 gigs of games, and an archive of several TB of shockwave flash from around the internet.
11:17 🔗 Raccoon Might be a group worth collaborating with.
11:18 🔗 Raccoon Though I guess BlueMaxim is he :)
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19:25 🔗 godane so my total number i upload is 180,964 items
19:25 🔗 godane for 2019
19:26 🔗 godane a little low cause in 2018 i upload 499,717 items
19:37 🔗 endrift So I didn't end up getting charged for bandwidth overages from my escapades with plays.tv and Vultr
19:37 🔗 endrift I'm not gonna do this with Vultr in the future, but it's curious that they didn't do the thing they said they'd do
19:51 🔗 atphoenix endrift, maybe they have a grace period policy. First time get out of jail card.
19:51 🔗 atphoenix (unofficial)
19:51 🔗 endrift well
19:51 🔗 endrift The thing is this was across like 30 VMs
19:52 🔗 endrift they each had a 2 TB cap, and none went over that, but they claim that the cap is actually prorated over the course of the month, so I technically did go over what would have been allotted in that period of time
19:52 🔗 endrift with all of them
19:52 🔗 endrift I calculated my overages would be ~$50 and I was charged $20 total
19:52 🔗 endrift maybe their prorating system is broken. Not complaining though :P
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19:55 🔗 atphoenix do you know how datacenters are charged for bandwidth? I don't. If they buy bandwidth in huge buckets (e.g. 1 PB/month with overages for above that) that they resell in 2 TB/month chunks to VM customers...they might only charge VM customers if the VM customer pool as a whole actually exceeds the aggregate budget of 1 PB.
20:00 🔗 ivan it's sold in link capacity, not PB
20:04 🔗 ivan people also roll out their own fiber and get peering
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22:51 🔗 astrid yeah 90th-percentile billing etc
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22:56 🔗 gtwy hi
22:57 🔗 Raccoon gtwy: terms I'm looking for in my '99 irc logs; /columb|shoot|shot|school|gun/i what else
22:57 🔗 gtwy i mean that's a pretty good regex
22:58 🔗 gtwy the other event im looking for is 9/11. although i havent spent as much time looking for those yet, so its very likely something is already online
22:59 🔗 Raccoon yeah. On 9/11/2011 I did a log replay of 9/11/2001 in several channels, realtime
22:59 🔗 gtwy i could really use those
22:59 🔗 Raccoon it was something else indeed
23:00 🔗 Raccoon seems a daunting task to clean these for sensitivity
23:00 🔗 hook54321 gtwy: https://web.archive.org/web/20080516215034/http://kobnet.net/misc/midiwarez.log.11Sep2001
23:00 🔗 Raccoon Looks like I'd mentioned there was another school shooting on May 21st, just after columbine 99
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23:01 🔗 gtwy that would be helpful too
23:01 🔗 gtwy here let me pm you my email address
23:01 🔗 Raccoon Someone in colorado saying all the movie theaters were in high security alert in May of 99
23:02 🔗 Raccoon people created a bunch of #schoolshootings channels but I hadn't joined them
23:04 🔗 gtwy the book is going to follow some of the worst news events (shootings, terrorist attacks) of the 90s so anything that you think is applicable would be helpful. not sure which events will ultimately make it into the book. having lived through the events, i remember the experience was far different than the hindsight version
23:04 🔗 gtwy we know all the information now
23:04 🔗 gtwy so it doesnt feel the same
23:04 🔗 gtwy its hard to write the story and get into that mindset
23:05 🔗 gtwy and as an avid irc user, this is the closest thing i have to get back into my headspace, even if it wasnt the channels i was in
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23:15 🔗 gtwy lol
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