#archiveteam-bs 2020-06-16,Tue

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12:37 🔗 icedice Does Internet Archive have a decent chance of not being shut down by those book publishers?
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13:20 🔗 phuzion_ icedice: The only people that know the answer to that are the lawyers.
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13:22 🔗 icedice :(
13:42 🔗 Frogging :(
14:02 🔗 Arcorann The optimist in me hopes that they consulted their lawyers when they launched the NEL in the first place
14:07 🔗 Frogging You know, the publishers aren't obligated to sue anybody. They chose to
14:07 🔗 Frogging so they're assholes
14:07 🔗 Frogging copyright isn't "use it or lose it"
14:17 🔗 icedice Even law enforcement uses Internet Archive, so I don't think they can shut down Wayback Machine, at least
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15:15 🔗 Frogging icedice: well, if Internet Archive is bankrupt, there's nobody to host it
15:15 🔗 Frogging unless it gets bought
15:16 🔗 icedice Shit, you're right
15:17 🔗 Frogging or bailed out by either the government or a private entity
15:18 🔗 icedice The current administration does not seem like the type who would bail out an organization of immense cultural and informational value
15:18 🔗 Frogging couldn't tell ya
15:20 🔗 Frogging I'd tend to agree, I don't have much faith in the government to make good decisions in that area
15:20 🔗 Frogging but I don't know enough to have a proper conversation about it, so yeah
15:21 🔗 Frogging hope everything works out, regardless
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15:30 🔗 icedice Yeah
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22:22 🔗 lennier1 Hopefully the publishers don't want to destroy Internet Archive, just force a settlement regarding book sharing.
22:24 🔗 lennier1 They have a decent argument regarding lending out one copy of a book per each copy they own, but I don't see US courts blessing unlimited lending.
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23:14 🔗 icedice I don't think the Wayback Machine should get taken down because of a separate program
23:15 🔗 icedice Would it be possible to separate them into separate legal entities?
23:15 🔗 icedice A new one for everything except digital lending and book scanning
23:15 🔗 icedice And Internet Archive for digital lending and book scanning
23:16 🔗 Kaz You’d have to uh.. ask them
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