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...So, I was going to archive each of those file downloads from https://d-indiegames.blogspot.com/ via AB - some had dead links, this one like https://d-indiegames.blogspot.com/2014/03/misao.html in particular, this link being http://www.mediafire.com/download/kba90hx4zrfkwa9/Misao.zip got DMCA'd by Nintendo...even though looking from the screensho |
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https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://vgperson.com/games/Misao303.zip |
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Tue, 07 Apr 2020 12:42:17 GMT (why: wikicollections, wikipedia-eventstream, wikipediaoutlinks) |
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interesting way for IA to grab this file |
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There's this page https://d-indiegames.blogspot.com/2014/08/misao-version-3.html - and that download link is still up fortunately |
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I've been meaning to contact voltagex about the Samsung VR thing anyway... |
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That quote wasn't cited, obviously |
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Hi, I have a couple of questions. I've partially archived a newspaper website (zviazda.by) with Wget and would like to upload the resulting .warc.gz data to the Internet Archive. Could you please advise: |
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- How exactly can I tag my items with the subject keyword "archiveteam"? Are there any working examples for the "ia" command line tool? |
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Can you recrawl the parts that were not saved? |
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And I think you modify metadata either by having like the warc headers or using `ia metadata` https://archive.org/services/docs/api/internetarchive/cli.html#metadata |
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user_: IIRC the proper set of arguments would be '-m "subject:Archiveteam"'; but as (unless you have a more familiar nick) no one here knows you, your warcs would not be added to the Wayback Machine, nor (I think) moved to the Archiveteam collection |
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(You may be able to do without the quotes around the second argument depending on your shell, obviously) |
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<mgrandi>: Yes, I'm going to recrawl unsaved parts, it will take several days. Basically it will be another set of .warc.gz blocks. |
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<mgrandi>, <OrIdow6>: Thanks for these instructions. I don't have a more familiar nick, as I'm writing to this IRC channel for the first time. Could you please explain what details should I provide about myself to be able to add warcs to the ArchiveTeam collection? |
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@JAA: did anyone ever look at that hltv thing? Do we need something to make a url crawler script? |
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user_: YOu can stay on until the right people get on who can really answer that, but in any case I don't think your chances are that good, especially with the compression thing |
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And the wget issue with the brackets in the warc (where wget outputs a warc format slightly different from the de facto (but technically wrong) standard) |
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Though maybe the WBM can get around that, I haven't been keeping track of it |
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I don't have a working example for the ia upload tool, someone else might do though. As for the missing blocks, obviously a full recrawl would be ideal but if the warcs are still usable without it then that's fine (just obviously.. the data will be missing) |
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I will note that your warcs will *not* end up available in the wayback machine though |
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<OrIdow6>, <Kaz>: Got it, thanks! As the website isn't dying as of yet, I'll do a recrawl. I'm aware of the brackets issue – would you please recommend a command line tool other than wget that I can use for recrawling? Basically I want to back up a list of URLs (news stories published by the website) without doing a full traversal, so I thought a feature-rich crawler like Heritrix may be an overkill. |
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brackets issue? |
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user_ |
Discussed here: http://fileformats.archiveteam.org/wiki/WARC (Ctrl+F "wget") |
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That's something I'm interested in looking into as well (saving the full contents of various blogs into the Wayback Machine, in my case) |
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user_: we use https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/wget-lua for most/all of our projects, I'd say that's safe |
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Arcorann_: archivebot is likely your best bet. You won't be able to upload to IA and have warcs ingested into the IA on your own |
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<Kaz>: Thank you for sharing this! Sorry for another stupid question, but does wget-lua accept the same command line parameters as GNU wget? I'm running the crawl like this: |
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wget -e robots=off --page-requisites --waitretry 5 --timeout 60 --tries 5 --wait 2 --random-wait --warc-header "operator: <redacted>" --warc-cdx --warc-file="zviazda-2020.08.01" -U "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/78.0" --input-file="links.txt" --reject-regex 'zviazda_theme/img/(blank|fancybox)' --warc-max-size=100M |
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user_ |
Will it also work with wget-lua? And should I change any of the arguments for compatibility with the existing practice? |
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I think wget Lua just adds additional arguments |
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It seems fine, you can see what the arguments are for projects: https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/github-grab/blob/master/pipeline.py#L192 |
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@kaz are you here |
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hello |
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user_: I believe so yes |
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ok, thanks for the linkl |
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Also: does anyone know what the "new style hash" is for a CDX file? Is it base64 sha1? The documentation literally just says "new style hash" |
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(The other style of metadata file format seems much more documented and easy to parse but I digress) |
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cc JAA |
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Great, thank you guys! |
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mgrandi: I haven't looked at HLTV yet. |
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mgrandi: In my experience, the 'new style hash' in the CDX at least as written by IA is the same as recorded in the WARC, i.e. SHA-1 in base36. |
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so Jason Scott (from the twitter link at the top of this channel) does a paid podcast? how does that add up? does someone have links for free or a comment on how you can be an archivist and put content behind paywalls? |
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Kaz: thanks for the response. Are there any specific requirements for using archivebot? |
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recruit_m: we're archivists, not communists |
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I mean I'm sure there's a few, but as a whole nobody's got an issue with paywalls existing |
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ok |
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recruit_m |
when will the podcast be archived :^ |
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Arcorann_: 'read the docs' basically. I don't use it much so there's definitely people that know more about the day-to-day |
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Arcorann_ |
I see |
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Kaz |
drop into #archivebot if you're not already |
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done |
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recruit_m: i would imagine it's already archived somewhere |
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that doesn't mean it's *public* |
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interesting |
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recruit_m |
so how do open source/culture and archiv(ism?) relate? |
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well, it's certainly easier to archive things that are already public / open source |
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ok, thanks |
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recruit_m |
I am new and exploring, at work, are there network or capacity overload risks I may bump into? |
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JAA: As I know, AT saves flash games, right? https://vk.com/dev/no_flash and https://vk.com/dev/no_flash_2.0 may be interesting. The games are only for users, so AT must have account(s) on Vk |
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Kaz VoynichCr maybe SketchCow |
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I mean, all the games were before 2018 |
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Nikchemny: Flashpoint is the project you're looking for I think. We haven't really done much Flash stuff here as far as I know. |
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OK, don't do that. |
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SketchCow |
Who... the fuck.... is recruit_m |
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Like, did he just wander into the channel to go "So.... Jason has a paid podcast... explain THAT" |
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But, just for the future, although whatever: |
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- Podcast episodes are released on Patreon |
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- Anywhere from 2 weeks to a month after they are released on youtube, apple podcasts, google podcasts, libsyn and a couple others I don't know. For free. |
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- Episodes are all archived at archive.org in a collection |
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- Fuck you |
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SketchCow: But don't you know that all content from archivists is required to be in the public domain immediately‽ |
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Like, what even the fuck WAS that |
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Does remind me to release an episode though |
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Also I see the archiveteam inbox on IA needs me to write more sorting routines |
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I've heard rumors people here have jobs writing closed source software. :) |
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Whaaaaa |
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Mind blown. |
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The entire POINT of archiveteam is all the compromises that have been made and trying to work with them |
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The deriver queue is finally going down on IA |
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https://archive.org/~tracey/mrtg/derivesg.html |
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It is merely the worst it has been in a year instead of the worst in a decade |
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What was the peak queue size at the worst in a decade? |
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Also, thanks for the URL. I had been looking for those graphs before and couldn't find them anymore. |
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Is that a good thing? Like the backlog of stuff to process is getting smaller and more manageable? o: |
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Yep |
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The contents being processed is more than just AB's stuff to clarify? |
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Lots more I'm sure. |
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What are the effects of this being lowered down over time? Like content would appear in IA or WBM more faster? |
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Yup |
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Derives have been delayed for a week or more from what I've heard. |
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Ooo, instead of 2 days, it could be 1 day or maybe less~ |
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Oh, it was much longer, welp |
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That should go back down to reasonable times soon. |
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So, I was trying to find archives of Prevention magazine ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevention_(magazine) ) and Google Books as a small selection of stuff, I browsed one of 'em because I got the small magazines from my parents, thinking, this could be a sufficent replacement so I don't have to manually mine for website links; |
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...And then this came up: https://books.google.com/books?id=9MYDAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PP1&pg=PA56#v=onepage&q&f=false |
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Not only is this a crappy scan, but it doesn't match the ad from the magazine that I have at all |
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Has there been an initiative for bots or people to scan through documents like magazines and mine out links that may or may not exist anymore? I managed to mine at least 1 website that I threw into AB, which is https://www.videoeye.com/ - which came from an advertisement |
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