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kiska |
I've setup thelounge on one of my vms, I guess if you want to use it message me and I'll setup a user for you |
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schbirid |
wow elon musk |
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Kaz |
what's he doing |
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Kaz |
did tweets get deleted? I don't see anything too bad |
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schbirid |
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1018497953051258880 :D |
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kiska |
Oooof! |
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Arctic |
TL;DR please. |
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kiska |
PR is going to have a fun time cleaning that up |
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Kaz |
ah i see |
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schbirid |
Pedo Relations |
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flashfloo |
JAA I figured this convo was best had here |
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flashfloo |
Yeah apple reached the Australian education system first hence a lot of Australian schools only have apple products |
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flashfloo |
My school does offer chrome books but I would rather run MacOS |
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JAA |
Surely they can't force you to use Apple though? |
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flashfloo |
They canβt force us but they wonβt hook anything not apple up to the wifi |
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JAA |
And that's legal? |
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JAA |
Or has it just not been challenged yet? |
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flashfloo |
Strangely enough yes |
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flashfloo |
Not been challenged by someone with enough money |
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JAA |
Right |
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flashfloo |
Not sure one of them |
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flashfloo |
I mean the alternative is a gimped chrome book with restrictions by the education department. |
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flashfloo |
Iβd rather try and install a custom Linux OS on my MacBook than run chromium stuff again |
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flashfloo |
I only use Google Chrome because Firefox doesnβt connect properly with our proxies |
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JAA |
Meaning? |
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flashfloo |
Meaning we run eduroam which is run by the Australian government |
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flashfloo |
Customised for each school |
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flashfloo |
My IT department blocked Firefox |
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flashfloo |
They want us to use Safari but I have found most things work with chrome |
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JAA |
Uh, is that a different eduroam than the one I know from European universities? |
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JAA |
Because the eduroam we have here has absolutely nothing to do with the browser. |
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flashfloo |
Well our IT department has done something with the internet in that Firefox only runs into errors |
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JAA |
It's just a wireless network where authentication happens through your university's servers. You connect with a username of name@university.example.org and your university's password, then you get a direct connection. |
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flashfloo |
Chrome works fine but occasionally needs to be rebooted |
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flashfloo |
There is an additional blocker on it then. Opera worked for about 10 minutes then kicked me out i canβt connect with that anymore |
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flashfloo |
We use smoothwall to block any sites that the school doesnβt want us to have access to |
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flashfloo |
I cut a deal with the department a while ago |
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flashfloo |
If I feed them sites every now and again they ignore all the flags that come up during my browsing |
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flashfloo |
Every time you try and access a blocked site you get a flag against your name |
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flashfloo |
At last count I have surpassed 10000 |
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flashfloo |
I am reduced to using mibbit for IRC which I have my IT department at a standstill connecting using a university IRC connection |
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flashfloo |
Underworld.no I think |
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flashfloo |
They canβt block it cause technically itβs an education network |
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flashfloo |
JAA thatβs also why I often need to be revoiced at school. |
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JAA |
All of this sounds fucking awful. What a shithole country. ;-) |
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flashfloo |
Didnβt your country survive by staying neutral 24/7 ;-) |
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Kaz |
I always thought eduroam was a UK thing, that expanded to EU//wherever else |
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Kaz |
idk |
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flashfloo |
But internet laws are shit |
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flashfloo |
Eduroam for us is probably an offshoot of that. Tells me I can connect to any eduroam network across the globe |
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flashfloo |
Ironically the blocking of browsers only works on my schools network. I connect to other eduroam networks and use Firefox just fine |
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JAA |
Kaz: Apparently founded by institutions from several European countries. |
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JAA |
"The first non-European country to join eduroam was Australia, in December 2004." |
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Kaz |
Yeah, I only have experience with JANET in the UK so not sure how I got that idea really |
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JAA |
flashfloo: Well, if we're going down that route, your country only exists because the British wanted to get rid of their criminals (or whoever they considered criminal/undesired), so... :-) |
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flashfloo |
I mean the land mass was always there. But yeah what we call Australia now started from a penal colony. |
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flashfloo |
So btw if you lot have any obscure browsers or free VPNs or even IRC workarounds for me to try let me know |
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flashfloo |
I wonder if The Lounge would run on my school network |
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flashfloo |
School holidays are over now so I may as well try |
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flashfloo |
The school used to block internet for people with to many flags against there names but I feed enough info to the IT department to have a bit more freedom |
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JAA |
Well, The Lounge is just another IRC client, so probably yes. I doubt you'd be able to connect to it from the outside though unless you set up something outside the school network. |
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flashfloo |
Hm I will have to look into it |
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flashfloo |
Also any browsers to recommend. Cause I want to mess with the department a bit on my first day back. Keep them on there toes. |
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JAA |
their* |
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flashfloo |
Sorry |
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JAA |
I've been using Firefox exclusively for 12 years or so, so I'm definitely the wrong person for that question. |
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flashfloo |
Thatβs fine. I use chrome on my laptop often more cause I forget I can use Firefox at home. I only have Firefox on my desktop though |
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JAA |
I'm not very happy about how Firefox evolved over the past few years, so I'm playing with the idea of trying to switch to Chromium, but that probably won't happen. |
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Kaz |
I'd love to switch to FF, but tree style tabs decides to die on me after ~50 tabs or so, consistently |
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Kaz |
it's a shame |
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flashfloo |
I like the chromium style I just donβt like the idea of google spying on me |
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flashfloo |
I had a friend that used Palemoon but I donβt think itβs been updated for a while |
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JAA |
Kaz: Huh, I have no problems with TST even at hundreds of tabs. I'm still on version 52 though because migrating to the WebExtensions is a pain in some cases. |
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Kaz |
it's been a while since I've tried if I'm honest, but it would just sort of lock itself up as if it was trying to... reload itself? |
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JAA |
Well, not "no problems", but nothing significant. There are some small bugs like it not opening new tabs at the right level (child instead of sibling). |
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Kaz |
restarting FF never resolved it, and it'd sort itself out after ~10 minutes.. during which time you can't change tabs using it |
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JAA |
Interesting |
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flashfloo |
I use chrome. I have extensions that are convenient and my details have been sold to a Lebanese trucking company |
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HCross |
Opera |
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HCross ducks |
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flashfloo |
π |
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flashfloo throws something at ducked HCross |
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flashfloo |
Anyone else? |
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JAA |
I've been meaning to give Brave a shot. |
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flashfloo |
Iβll try that one out thatβs the one thatβs all privacy oriented so they say yeah I |
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flashfloo |
I used Mercury browser on my phone for a while which was good but donβt honk it has a desktop release |
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SketchCow |
I use Brave all the time. |
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SketchCow |
It boots up a tor node, so be aware of that, freaked me out |
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JAA |
Relay, I hope? |
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JAA |
Or just a connection to the Tor network? |
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JAA |
Yeah, the former wouldn't really make any sense. Disregard that. I should probably go to bed anyway. |
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SketchCow |
I have no idea |
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flashfire |
hey kiska what was that relay you had set up? The Lounge didnt work |
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flashfire |
How do I check metadata on applications? |