#archiveteam-ot 2018-08-24,Fri

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00:04 🔗 ivan ugh I think the tumblr Googlebot useragent hack stopped worked (for GDPR bypass)
00:06 🔗 Flashfire Ah shit thats not good
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00:22 🔗 Flashfire ivan what user agent does archivebot use?
00:25 🔗 ivan I believe you have the powers to figure this out from the repo
00:27 🔗 Flashfire https://awebsiteinsidemy.com/robots.txt
00:28 🔗 Flashfire I am quite amused by this
00:31 🔗 ivan can someone with a server in Europe please confirm that the Googlebot thing no longer works?
00:32 🔗 vitzli I haz some, what should I do?
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00:36 🔗 vitzli I mean, what should I test?
00:36 🔗 vitzli open NSFW tumblr page?
00:37 🔗 ivan vitzli: see if this redirects to a /privacy/consent page: wget -U "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 but not really nor Googlebot/2.1" https://reddragdiva.tumblr.com/robots.txt
00:38 🔗 ivan anyway I tried another IP and it looks like it does :(
00:38 🔗 * ivan updates some README
00:38 🔗 vitzli pure "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" redirects to privacy/consent
00:39 🔗 ivan someone must have read their logs
00:40 🔗 vitzli ivan, the line you gave with wget redirects to privacy/consent too
00:40 🔗 ivan vitzli: thanks
00:41 🔗 vitzli I use Amsterdam-NL IP address, maybe they whitelist entire google blocks
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01:25 🔗 svchfoo1 sets mode: +o JAA
01:25 🔗 bakJAA sets mode: +o JAA
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02:06 🔗 Ravenloft https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2F0wjoKEhg
02:07 🔗 ivan thanks Linus
02:07 🔗 ivan nobody poorer than you was using that
02:10 🔗 ivan "That moment when someone thinks 370TB of data is a lot of data. 😂" heh
02:11 🔗 ivan only 6K USD in 8TB drives at this point
02:12 🔗 ivan more like 7K but whatever
02:29 🔗 Flashfire Well in 30 minutes australia might have a new pm
02:32 🔗 Flashfire https://potatodutton.com/
02:33 🔗 Flashfire only in australia
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02:42 🔗 Ravenloft the world will not end today, because its already tomorrow in Australia
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04:16 🔗 hook54321 I have a dilemma, and I don't really see anything I can do about it.
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04:19 🔗 Flashfire whats up hook54321 ?
04:20 🔗 hook54321 So I have some logs from a discord server and I was asked to not share them, so I provided a hash of the file and later on a hash of each line. The message logs contain people's usernames. Since them at least one trans person has come out, and their old username (that's in the logs I have) is based on their previous name. I can't modify it without the hash changing of course, and even if I could I feel like modifying it would be tampering.
04:20 🔗 hook54321 *Since then
04:22 🔗 Flashfire remember that that was them then and this is them now
04:22 🔗 Flashfire they have made that change and thats how they feel now but that was still once their identity even if they didn't agree with it
04:22 🔗 Flashfire Make it so that in future logs that the username reflects their transition
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04:23 🔗 hook54321 I know, but like, there are people that could use the knowledge of their previous username for negative things. Although it's not really a secret what their old username was.
04:24 🔗 hook54321 I no longer log stuff from the server because Discord has since then stopped being okay with some selfbot usage.
04:25 🔗 hook54321 I approached them and talked with them about it and explained why I couldn't change it even if I wanted to, but like, it still makes me feel iffy.
04:25 🔗 hook54321 I guess I might be worrying about this too much
04:26 🔗 Flashfire I can understand why and some people are assholes but you can only do so much
04:26 🔗 hook54321 yeah
04:26 🔗 hook54321 true
04:26 🔗 Flashfire Its a part of their identity even if they weren't happy with it at that time
04:26 🔗 hook54321 If someone wants to find for negative purposes I think they'll find a way to do it no matter what.
04:27 🔗 fenn do you have a good reason to share the logs now? you could just not release the logs
04:30 🔗 hook54321 I've been asked to not share the whole log file. I'm allowed to share portions because mods have come to me in the past asking me to look up stuff for them. Although seeing how unstable this server's mod team is it wouldn't surprise me if the server gets deleted at some point. The logs contain stuff that could be of interest to server members, and all of the content in there was accessible to them at some point anyways, so it's not like I'm
04:30 🔗 hook54321 leaking anything.
04:31 🔗 Flashfire hook54321 give a copy to each server member with slight changes in the metadata for each member you give it to. That way if something is leaked or used maliciously you know which server member leaked it
04:31 🔗 Flashfire I may be misunderstanding metadata but in my mind it works
04:31 🔗 Flashfire or some other kind of unique identifier for each person you share it with
04:34 🔗 hook54321 In order to do what you're describing I would have to change the logs themselves. Iirc companies do this sometimes with emails.
04:35 🔗 hook54321 There are 5000 people in the server and at least 200 active people, so it wouldn't really work.
04:35 🔗 Flashfire Ah ok
04:35 🔗 hook54321 I'm not really worried about people leaking it, because there's no point to leak stuff if it's been released to people.
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