#archiveteam-ot 2018-09-24,Mon

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04:46 πŸ”— w0rmhole can't remember if i asked here before or not, but is there a preferred way to download entire mediawiki wikis? (entire meaning images, page edits, audio clips, files, etc.)
04:47 πŸ”— w0rmhole for example, i'd like to get an offline copy of https://wiki.telefang.net/
04:47 πŸ”— w0rmhole btw i not only want to download it but be able to view it too
04:55 πŸ”— Flashfire can anyone reccomend an iso burning software for macosx Kiska or w0rmhole ?
04:55 πŸ”— w0rmhole finder can do that already
04:56 πŸ”— w0rmhole pop in your disc, right click the disk image, and click burn disk image to disc"
04:56 πŸ”— w0rmhole right click, or control+click, or two-finger click
04:56 πŸ”— Flashfire I want to make it an ISO from a disk
04:57 πŸ”— w0rmhole open disk utility
04:57 πŸ”— w0rmhole highlight the disc in the list
04:57 πŸ”— w0rmhole go to file>new image>image from <name>
04:58 πŸ”— Flashfire Ok cause I have a game that is not the IA as far as I know
04:58 πŸ”— w0rmhole be sure to select format as "dvd/cd master"
04:58 πŸ”— w0rmhole what's the game?
04:59 πŸ”— Flashfire https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mega-Bloks-Dragons-Metal-Ages-PC-Game-Program-Windows-Mint-/173527845467?oid=172724424844
04:59 πŸ”— Flashfire only mention I could find of it
04:59 πŸ”— w0rmhole my assumption is that it has no copy protection so doing it the disk utility way should work
05:00 πŸ”— Flashfire I come across a lot of obscure stuff
05:01 πŸ”— w0rmhole then it will give you a .cdr file. just type `hdiutil convert /path/to/file.cdr -format UDTO -o /path/to/converted.iso'
05:01 πŸ”— Flashfire https://archive.org/details/@flashfire42
05:01 πŸ”— w0rmhole cool :D
05:01 πŸ”— Flashfire I just convert it to an ISO in the about this file thing is that bad?
05:01 πŸ”— w0rmhole like rename .cdr to .iso?
05:01 πŸ”— Flashfire yeah
05:01 πŸ”— Flashfire its worked in the past
05:02 πŸ”— Flashfire I think
05:02 πŸ”— w0rmhole i though i read somewhere that that works, but i've looked and can't find that
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05:02 πŸ”— w0rmhole netshit
05:02 πŸ”— Flashfire Well if you want to try some of my old games go ahead
05:02 πŸ”— w0rmhole i mean netsplit
05:02 πŸ”— w0rmhole :)
05:02 πŸ”— Flashfire The ones I have uploaded to the archive already
05:02 πŸ”— w0rmhole i'd love to
05:03 πŸ”— Flashfire they are mostly going to need to be run through WINE or crossover if you dont have a windows device handy
05:04 πŸ”— w0rmhole there is a proper way to create as-close-to-original-as-possible copies of discs, but it requires expensive and specific hardware
05:04 πŸ”— Flashfire Yeah I dont have that kind of hardware though if someone does I would be happy to send them the disks
05:05 πŸ”— Flashfire godane might he does a lot of digitisation and shit
05:05 πŸ”— Flashfire but w0rmhole if you want to try out some of the old programs I have uploaded be my guest
05:06 πŸ”— w0rmhole i have the hardware (a winxp box, ide plextor px-708a) but not enough time, and i need to reinstall xp on there anyway
05:06 πŸ”— w0rmhole sure i'll check them out
05:06 πŸ”— w0rmhole http://wiki.redump.org/index.php?title=CD_Dumping_Guide_(DIC_CLI)
05:07 πŸ”— w0rmhole has a list of archive-grade drives
05:08 πŸ”— w0rmhole my px-708a was about $165 AUD and i had to go through three to finally get a working one
05:08 πŸ”— w0rmhole was a lot of money to dump just like that but, archiving is what i live for
05:09 πŸ”— w0rmhole btw flashfire if you have a scanner i would really appreciate it if you could scan your discs too
05:10 πŸ”— w0rmhole the disc itself or whatever the jewel case artwork is if you have it
05:10 πŸ”— w0rmhole just to make as complete of a copy as possible
05:10 πŸ”— Flashfire I dont have a scanner
05:10 πŸ”— Flashfire Sadly
05:11 πŸ”— w0rmhole could you take a photo of the discs?
05:11 πŸ”— Flashfire Though if you have the equipment and would like me to keep an eye out for sales just let me know
05:11 πŸ”— w0rmhole yeah
05:11 πŸ”— Flashfire I can and upload that
05:11 πŸ”— Flashfire I also need to have another look I want to buy some rom dumping equipment
05:12 πŸ”— Flashfire I have some bootleg GBA games somewhere around
05:12 πŸ”— w0rmhole for something like that one where its relatively inexpensive and in great condition i could buy that
05:12 πŸ”— w0rmhole if you need suggestions on archival hardware feel free to ask me anytime
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05:13 πŸ”— w0rmhole for dumping gba roms, you could always buy a nintendo ds flashcart (like an R4) and put a gba rom dumping utility on there. ive done that before
05:13 πŸ”— w0rmhole with a ds lite
05:13 πŸ”— w0rmhole cant remember the exact name of the tool though
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05:14 πŸ”— w0rmhole but i did check the sha1s and md5s of the retail cartridges i dumped and they matched their no-scene counterparts
05:15 πŸ”— Flashfire wait you do GBA rom dumping?
05:15 πŸ”— Flashfire Do you have the files?
05:15 πŸ”— w0rmhole when i have carts worth dumping, yes
05:15 πŸ”— w0rmhole which files?
05:15 πŸ”— Flashfire If you can get me the files I can upload the GBA rom files to the internet archive for you plus add them to my personal collection
05:16 πŸ”— w0rmhole sure, but which files? the roms i dumped? the actual dumping software? the r4 firmware?
05:17 πŸ”— w0rmhole i too have an IA account btw, but i haven't added that much stuff in a while
05:17 πŸ”— w0rmhole and i don't upload my tubeup videos to it
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05:17 πŸ”— Flashfire The roms you dumped
05:17 πŸ”— Flashfire I would be very interested in them
05:18 πŸ”— Flashfire also if you havent already check out http://hhug.me/
05:22 πŸ”— w0rmhole most of them were retail by the way, three of them were firered rom hacks. and yeah i've been there before, great site.
05:22 πŸ”— w0rmhole it's been years since the last time i dumped those, i'd have to scour my hdds to find them
05:22 πŸ”— Flashfire PLEASE DO SO
05:22 πŸ”— Flashfire I dont mind whatever they were
05:23 πŸ”— Flashfire Even a slightly different hash is good for me
05:32 πŸ”— w0rmhole ok hold your horses while i go look
05:35 πŸ”— w0rmhole i think that's the fastest i've ever found something
05:36 πŸ”— Flashfire lol
05:36 πŸ”— Flashfire where will you upload them?
05:36 πŸ”— w0rmhole dmca.gripe
05:36 πŸ”— w0rmhole dmca.gripe mangles the filename though, so i'll store it in a .7z
05:36 πŸ”— w0rmhole *store them all in a .7z
05:37 πŸ”— Flashfire alright upload them and dm them to me My laptop will go dead soon so Will have a look tommorow or later today probably
05:37 πŸ”— w0rmhole and by mangles i mean, if you upload `horses.png' it will turn out as `a2dfscxCGcx.png'
05:37 πŸ”— w0rmhole ok, should be just about five minutes or so
05:39 πŸ”— w0rmhole archiving them rn
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05:41 πŸ”— w0rmhole there will only be one POKEMON_FIRE_BPRE01.gba file. two of the three rom hacks had the same name, as well as my official firered cart
05:42 πŸ”— w0rmhole so im not sure if the one in there is a hack or the retail
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07:23 πŸ”— w0rmhole is there a preferred way to download entire mediawiki or fandom wikia wikis? (entire meaning images, page edits, audio clips, files, etc.)
07:23 πŸ”— w0rmhole i believe that just throwing it into grab-site can run into stacking urIs
07:24 πŸ”— w0rmhole or something with login page issues
09:40 πŸ”— Flashfire So dxrt what brought you to the archiveteam
09:42 πŸ”— Flashfire And you kiska what brought you here?
09:42 πŸ”— dxrt Hmm probably reading about the geocities stuff and finding the wiki a good resource a good enough reason to join
09:42 πŸ”— Flashfire Fair enough was curious is all
09:42 πŸ”— dxrt You?
09:43 πŸ”— Flashfire I honestly dont remember I was looking into datahoarding and the internet archive and found this place mentioned somewhere
09:44 πŸ”— dxrt It is mentioned a lot on that subreddit lol
09:45 πŸ”— kiska I had a habit of clicking on the "About this Capture" thing on WBM and that is how I found AT
09:45 πŸ”— Flashfire How long have you been with the team kiska I seem to remember you joining after me
09:46 πŸ”— kiska I joined IRC after you, I ran the warrior since version 2
09:46 πŸ”— Flashfire yeah
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11:26 πŸ”— JAA #archivebot: "<+w0rmhole> why does that say "dick" in it?" -- On a related note, the URL I got when I archived Trump's tweets a while ago was https://transfer.sh/GayO1/realDonaldTrump-tweets :-)
11:30 πŸ”— kiska xD
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12:02 πŸ”— Flashfire no flounce no fuss no drama just liek movin' on izzle
12:02 πŸ”— Flashfire i dont really game tbh
12:02 πŸ”— Flashfire dont reall has mich in uuuh... common with majority o' peeps here 'cpz of taht an' etcetc
12:02 πŸ”— Flashfire i mena mah irl frienfs they game liek welp 0% so i feel iddi MUCH bettah than 'em! for abit
12:02 πŸ”— Flashfire ima sho' you get it tho
12:02 πŸ”— Flashfire tried to get snowy back failed too bad so sad much hashtag
12:02 πŸ”— Flashfire Kiska JAA try and make sense of that
12:02 πŸ”— kiska ...
12:02 πŸ”— kiska No thanks
12:03 πŸ”— Flashfire That’s a message from a friend of mine. Her pseudonym is Fairfox no one ever knows what the duck she is saying
12:07 πŸ”— JAA That's disgusting.
12:09 πŸ”— Flashfire How I summed it up or how she types
12:09 πŸ”— Flashfire ?
12:09 πŸ”— JAA The latter.
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16:22 πŸ”— astrid 00:23 <w0rmhole> is there a preferred way to download entire mediawiki or fandom wikia wikis? || wikiteam has tooling exactly for this
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17:26 πŸ”— w0rmhole https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Deaths_in_2018 how does the bot on this page know when a website is saved?
17:26 πŸ”— w0rmhole archivebot just finished www.joefrank.com
17:29 πŸ”— astrid is there a bot? i thought it was manual
17:34 πŸ”— jut_ I think it searches https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/
17:35 πŸ”— w0rmhole near the top of the page it says not to edit it, as it is "automatically updated by bot".
17:35 πŸ”— astrid ah ok
17:37 πŸ”— jrwr HadeanEon is the botname
17:55 πŸ”— JAA VoynichCr is the author.
17:55 πŸ”— w0rmhole on the github page it says that using `--xml' and `--images' downloads "complete XML histories and images". that means it downloads images, page edits, audio clips, files, etc., right?
17:55 πŸ”— JAA w0rmhole: I think it checks against the ArchiveBot viewer periodically to update the saved/not saved thing.
17:55 πŸ”— w0rmhole im just confused on the terminology
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17:58 πŸ”— w0rmhole JAA: i see
18:13 πŸ”— VoynichCr w0rmhole: bot updates page once a day
18:13 πŸ”— VoynichCr a more frequent rate would flood page history and recent changes
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19:27 πŸ”— w0rmhole thanks voynichcr and jaa and everyone else
19:39 πŸ”— w0rmhole kiska, flashfire: macOS Mojave comes out today!!! :D
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19:53 πŸ”— w0rmhole JAA: does snscrape grab the urls from retweets?
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19:57 πŸ”— JAA w0rmhole: Nope.
19:57 πŸ”— w0rmhole do you have plans of it grabbing those urls in the future?
19:58 πŸ”— JAA If you know a way to discover them, sure.
19:58 πŸ”— w0rmhole i only know bash
19:58 πŸ”— JAA Note that the profile page is limited to 3200 results. That's why snscrape uses the Twitter search, not the profile page.
19:58 πŸ”— w0rmhole oh i didnt know that
19:58 πŸ”— JAA And there doesn't seem to be a way to find all tweets retweeted by @user through the search.
19:59 πŸ”— w0rmhole damn
20:30 πŸ”— VoynichCr so how many tweets can find in Tw search? your best results JAA ?
20:37 πŸ”— JAA VoynichCr: All of them, but only original tweets by the user. The largest accounts I've scraped so far had roughly 150k tweets.
20:48 πŸ”— VoynichCr JAA: thats pretty cool, is snscrape going to be added to archivebot soon?
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20:52 πŸ”— JAA VoynichCr: "Soon"? Not likely.
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20:54 πŸ”— VoynichCr :-(
20:54 πŸ”— JAA ArchiveBot development is moving at glacial speeds.
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20:57 πŸ”— VoynichCr not bad, it could be slower
20:57 πŸ”— JAA Heh
20:57 πŸ”— JAA Yeah, it could be 0 commits per year instead of 1.
21:03 πŸ”— VoynichCr one would think Commons and Wikipedia pages are well archived, but this file (and I have found many others) from year 2015 is yet to be archived https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bulletin_of_the_Museum_of_Comparative_Zoology_at_Harvard_College_(1982-1985)_(20493697735).jpg
21:03 πŸ”— VoynichCr (i know about the xml and image dumps, I mean the wayback)
21:05 πŸ”— VoynichCr 2011 https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:West_Allen_Dale_-_Low_Hartleycleugh_and_High_Turney_Shield_-_geograph.org.uk_-_1703591.jpg
21:06 πŸ”— VoynichCr the wayback coverage of Commons sucks
21:15 πŸ”— JAA I'd guess that it's intentionally excluded from IA's crawls because there's no risk of it suddenly disappearing anytime soon.
21:16 πŸ”— JAA And IA is directly collaborating with Wikimedia in other aspects (e.g. prevet linkrot among sources on Wikipedia articles), so if Wikipedia got in trouble, they'd likely be able to archive it then before anything is lost.
21:20 πŸ”— VoynichCr there must be an explanation for sure, but it is a bit weird to me
21:21 πŸ”— VoynichCr one of the most popular websites in the interwebs, the biggest encyclopedia, free licensed, is poorly archived in the wayback
21:22 πŸ”— VoynichCr next year the Commons interface is gonna change, Structured Commons is comming soon
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