#archiveteam-ot 2018-12-14,Fri

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06:11 🔗 Flashfire hi
06:11 🔗 erine o/
06:11 🔗 teej_ Flashfire: So I'm also stuck with High Sierra.
06:12 🔗 erine The newer gens are nice but jesus, refurb/used would have been a better idea
06:12 🔗 erine Touch bar has some macros for my commands!
06:12 🔗 teej_ People applaud Apple for product longevity, but I don't get it. You can run Windows 10 on ancient laptops.
06:13 🔗 teej_ And it doesn't even get High Sierra support.
06:13 🔗 erine ubuntu too :P
06:13 🔗 teej_ Because of some dumb graphics tweaks.
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06:14 🔗 teej_ Well if you can't install Linux on an amd64 system, it should be illegal.
06:14 🔗 teej_ Apple is fragmenting the entire computing industry.
06:15 🔗 erine You can run linux on a mac, what do you mean?
06:16 🔗 erine Just have the USB/CD inserted and hold option while powering on
06:17 🔗 teej_ No. Not on certain Macs. Apple broke it.
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06:17 🔗 teej_ erine: It's in the news.
06:17 🔗 gchcetiH if this is about the new T2 chip, you can disable that
06:18 🔗 erine ^
06:18 🔗 teej_ It has to do with their annoying T2 chip.
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06:18 🔗 erine I'm trying to find some sources right now
06:18 🔗 gchcetiH you just have to go through a few minor hoops
06:18 🔗 gchcetiH which is reasonable, given the security benefit it provides
06:18 🔗 teej_ Hoops?!?
06:18 🔗 erine yeah, look like those problems are T2 related
06:18 🔗 gchcetiH I think you have to boot into recovery and disable secure booting there
06:19 🔗 erine recovery OS thankfully can be netbooted too
06:19 🔗 erine one time setup for people that want to use linux on a mac, I believe
06:20 🔗 teej_ I like Macs for their style and cleanliness, but if I'm not running macOS, I'd rather not get a Mac.
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06:20 🔗 teej_ I think Macs are very unreliable, though.
06:21 🔗 erine interesting... "Linux will BOOT if you turn off Secure Boot But the hard disk is still locked out from being used. You can't INSTALL Linux on it"
06:21 🔗 gchcetiH IMO Macs are one of the most reliable computers around
06:21 🔗 erine https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/a4thsc/the_actual_full_story_about_apples_t2_chip_from/ebhg9db/
06:21 🔗 teej_ The only thing that has been solid was my iPad. Every other Apple product has given me problems.
06:21 🔗 erine Anyone with a T2 mac?
06:24 🔗 teej_ gchcetiH: Nvidia problems, horrible cooling, dust under keyboard, limited ram options for many years, hyped and overpriced, horrible cables, proprietary lockdown chips...
06:24 🔗 teej_ Granted, there are still many things I like about Apple laptops.
06:25 🔗 teej_ Will Apple remove the headphone jack on their laptops?
06:25 🔗 erine I would hope not
06:25 🔗 teej_ Lol. Hope.
06:26 🔗 erine There's still enough space for one!
06:26 🔗 erine Unless they wanna make a thinner macbook for god knows why
06:26 🔗 teej_ I liked Apple stuff for a while. But I'm not so interested in them anymore.
06:26 🔗 teej_ It's not very high quality.
06:26 🔗 psi you don't get any ports on the next model macbook
06:27 🔗 psi not even a charging port
06:27 🔗 psi good luck
06:27 🔗 teej_ psi: I can't tell if you're being sarcastic.
06:27 🔗 psi i am dw
06:27 🔗 teej_ Oh. Man. If there were no ports...
06:28 🔗 psi i mean, in today's world, it would be sort of possible
06:28 🔗 psi wireless charging and bluetooth/infrared peripherals
06:29 🔗 erine 85W qi?
06:29 🔗 erine god the heat from that large lag
06:29 🔗 erine lad
06:30 🔗 erine At least it's nice their latest gens have USB C
06:30 🔗 erine No more magsafe BS!
06:30 🔗 erine now that I think about it, the cable was always the broken part of my magsafes, not the actual brick
06:31 🔗 teej_ Yes, but it's not even the latest full bandwidth thunderbolt 3 on all models.
06:32 🔗 teej_ They're fooling customers.
06:32 🔗 teej_ I still have problems with every Apple cable I've used.
06:33 🔗 teej_ Except the very thick ones for power.
06:33 🔗 psi the quote of the century is "once you start seeing apple as a fashion company rather than a tech company, everything else starts to make sense"
06:34 🔗 teej_ psi: Honestly, it does make more sense...
06:34 🔗 teej_ Then why do techies use MacBooks?
06:35 🔗 psi Because they're apple fanboys who are too good to use Linux
06:40 🔗 erine Guilty.
06:41 🔗 erine but hey, I SSH to real machines
06:41 🔗 teej_ Lol.
06:42 🔗 psi acceptable, but you're on thin ice
06:42 🔗 teej_ I have to use VNC on my iPad to use my laptop, because the laptop screen keeps flickering.
06:42 🔗 teej_ So, I don't count, right?
06:43 🔗 psi That's a very good solution to that problem and I commend you for it
06:45 🔗 erine Is said iPad jailbroken?
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08:02 🔗 teej_ No.
08:03 🔗 teej_ erine: I stopped jailbreaking after iOS 10.
08:04 🔗 teej_ I spent so much time fiddling with jailbroken settings and having bugs/glitches/crashes that I gave up.
08:05 🔗 teej_ So I mainly use my iPad to use VNC now.
08:06 🔗 teej_ The only annoying thing is that RealVNC's free home subscription does not allow local direct VNC connections. It requires me to go through the cloud.
08:07 🔗 teej_ So I tend to get stutters and lag for seconds often.
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09:22 🔗 JAA ivan`: Haha, nice. I'm not that surprised, but dnspython should probably just return almost immediately.
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11:22 🔗 erine :( https://i.imgur.com/H35i00X.png
11:22 🔗 erine fucking paypal
11:28 🔗 caff talking about annoying things, chrome finally killed the old desktop UI
11:28 🔗 caff everything I need to bail to waterfox
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12:56 🔗 JAA Impressive collection: https://www.ebay.com/itm/2500-GRATEFUL-DEAD-YES-THATS-TWENTY-FIVE-HUNDRED-LIVE-BOOTLEG-CASSETTES-WHOA-/122668254089
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16:58 🔗 Bydoless So this is fc2's shitty excuse of a search engine: search.fc2.com
17:02 🔗 Bydoless I'm trying to archive as much of fc2.com as possible, but this is a tall order due to how limited and buggy it is
17:02 🔗 Bydoless the search engine, i mean
17:05 🔗 Bydoless For one, it has no options or filtering, just apparently basing all results on... something related to the query.
17:08 🔗 Bydoless Secondly, for each page of 10 urls it does find includes both accessible and inaccessible links (the second possibly because it was taken down, is private, etc), and it just hides the inaccessible links from the results, so thst each page is likely to not even have 10 links to itself
17:10 🔗 Bydoless Finally like with all good searchv engines it throttles your search results beyond a certain point, in this case probably unintentionally.
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19:00 🔗 Greloom Hello.
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19:05 🔗 Kaz hello
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20:37 🔗 Bydoless_ I don't suppose that using google and other s
20:37 🔗 Bydoless_ I don't suppose that using google and other search engines is useful for finding urls for a domain
20:40 🔗 Bydoless_ eg 'site:blog1.fc2.com'
20:42 🔗 Bydoless_ because when i try to do that, google only gives me 3 pages with like 300 pages total out of like hundreds of thousands of results
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22:15 🔗 Bydoless_ hi
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22:47 🔗 ivan` https://ludios.org/tmp/google-reader-2013-youtube-ids in case anyone wants a data set to find a lower bound on how much of linked-to or embedded youtube gets lost annually
22:48 🔗 ivan` kind of a mess because there's no post age, just "no later than 2013-07-01"
23:32 🔗 JAA Bydoless_: There's strict rate limit on all search engines. Bing is the most useful one I've found so far; one request every 2 seconds works fine indefinitely. I've used that several times already, e.g. for TalkTalk and Hostinger webspace closures and for Tumblr.
23:32 🔗 JAA Perhaps it might be useful one day to turn that into a warrior project.
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23:39 🔗 boutique trvz: just want to say a big thanks for that tumblr-monitor script, really neat
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23:48 🔗 trvz that's by JAA
23:48 🔗 boutique ah
23:48 🔗 Bydoless_ @JAA Thanks. I'll have to try that out.
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23:51 🔗 pnJay so is this the official banter channel?
23:54 🔗 JAA Glad people find it useful. :-) I said I'd extend it a bit more, but not sure yet if I'll have time before the deadline. But then again, we'll continue grabbing Tumblr anyway, so it might still be useful in the future.
23:54 🔗 ivan` too much low quality banter will yield a fourth channel
23:55 🔗 erin THOSE BANTS
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23:55 🔗 boutique #archiveteam-barrel-scraping, probably
23:57 🔗 pnJay So here comes the real test, will my computer still play sc2 while running 20 instances of warriors
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23:59 🔗 boutique if we all hear a small bang, we'll know it can't :p
23:59 🔗 pnJay 92% ram usage, nailed it.
23:59 🔗 pnJay ...so far.
23:59 🔗 erin i'm probably gonna throw together a version of tumblr-monitor that updates live and is ncurses-y
23:59 🔗 erin but
23:59 🔗 erin ┐(ツ)┌

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