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hook54321: I believe chfoo |
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arkiver |
love the image |
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arkiver: Me too. I would like to see more of those. It reminds me of Portal. |
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arkiver |
feel free to release your creative self :) |
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hook54321 |
yeah, it's a great image. I don't see it used anywhere on the wiki anymore though :/ |
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arkiver |
https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Dev/Infrastructure |
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hook54321 |
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Look at this: https://motus-labs.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Oct-03-2018-13-38-46-1.gif |
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teej_ |
That's interesting. |
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kbtoo__ |
I wonder if it'l be like that time IA did a 24hour webathon and there doesn't appear to be a clip of the whole thing. |
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teej_ |
kbtoo__: Did you see the gif I messaged earlier? |
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kbtoo__ |
no? |
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teej_ |
19:59:24 <teej_> Look at this: https://motus-labs.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Oct-03-2018-13-38-46-1.gif |
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teej_ |
kbtoo__: ^ |
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teej_ |
Isn't that interesting? |
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kbtoo__ |
Yes but I don't know what it is. |
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teej_ |
kbtoo__: It's a gear drive, I think. |
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edsphone |
I was so mesmerized by Jason's stream i tried to resume a save-stated VM on a different architecture laptop with insufficient RAM |
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edsphone |
It instantly sent me to swap-hell |
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kbtoo__ |
looks like it's more clockwork than gears |
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teej_ |
Actually it's a non-gear drive. |
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teej_ |
It's designed not to use gears. |
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teej_ |
edsphone: How much swap do you have? |
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teej_ |
Did you have to restart your laptop? |
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edsphone |
I shut it down, and moved the disk back to the original machine, like i should have in the first place |
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edsphone |
It was essentially halted |
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I could move my cursor a few pixels every 30s |
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teej_ |
Lol. |
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edsphone |
I'm home for the holidays, so i had to cludge together a working system |
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teej_ |
At least you have a working system. |
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teej_ |
Better than nothing. |
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edsphone |
It's not a horrible system for server stuff |
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teej_ |
I should get more system stuff. |
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edsphone |
Still a reasonable amount of power left in a Core 2 Quad with 8GB if DDR2 |
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teej_ |
That's good. |
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edsphone |
More than enough to run a shit ton of crawl instances |
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edsphone |
Just no working IGPU suppot at the moment |
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edsphone |
Which is really annoying |
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teej_ |
Integrated Intel GPU? |
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kbtoo__ even has P4 machines running crawlers. |
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edsphone |
Yeah |
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teej_ |
Intel is really far behind with their GPUs. |
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edsphone |
It's an old one on a C2Q |
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teej_ |
How did it stop working? |
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teej_ |
Do you need a dedicated GPU to get a video output? |
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edsphone |
It's working, just using mesa drivers without much in the way of acceleration |
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edsphone |
It's slloooooooow |
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teej_ |
Oh right. |
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kbtoo__ |
speaking of which they need a git pull now... |
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teej_ |
Those drivers. |
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teej_ |
Why does Linux suffer so much with drivers? |
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edsphone |
It's fine for most things |
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edsphone |
I also mostly do it to myself |
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teej_ |
I think it should have the best support, given that it's free. |
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edsphone |
I forgot my boot USB back at the college |
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teej_ |
edsphone: You finished finals early? |
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edsphone |
Standard college ending here is around last week |
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teej_ |
Oh. |
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teej_ |
I guess every college is different. |
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edsphone |
I had my exams two weeks earlier than that because my program spends the final two weeks in the theatre running technical for the musical theatre students |
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teej_ |
Oh interesting. Are you interested in musical theatre? |
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teej_ |
Just curious. What do you study? |
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teej_ |
If you don't mind me asking... |
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edsphone |
Entertainment Technology |
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edsphone |
We're the techies, they're the talent |
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edsphone |
It's a very mutual relationship with the other program |
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edsphone: Oh do you handle the lights? Or the effects? |
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kbtoo__ |
What does --max-items do? From the description it's supposed to shut down after completing a set number but it doesn't seem to work with --concurrent |
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edsphone |
Personally I'm more of a lighting technician, yes. |
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edsphone |
Sorry for the delay, trying to update my machines at the sane time Google's package mirror goes down |
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I don't like Google. |
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edgivesup |
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edgivesup |
Sorry if anyone's sent anything recently |
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teej_ |
edgivesup: Oh. Do you use your phone for IRC? |
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edgivesup |
At the moment |
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edgivesup |
Ehh, lemme launch a CLI client |
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edgivesup |
Greatttt |
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edgivesup |
That only does one channel per instance |
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Flashfire |
what phone? |
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edgivesup |
Why are all the default irc clients on ubuntu shitty |
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Flashfire |
use IRCCloud? |
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edgivesup |
Dling |
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jut |
edgivesup: Wait, did I understand you corectly, you are going college to become a lighting technician? |
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jut: yes |
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jut |
Is the program any good ? Because one of our universities has a program like this, but in a year of working I haven't met anyone who finished it |
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edgivesup |
I like my program, but mine is currently shutting down for a bit |
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edgivesup |
No new admissions |
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edgivesup |
Which is going to be really fun next year when there's 8 of use building, painting, rigging, lighting, wiring, operating flys, operating LX, operating audio, followspots, etc |
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jut |
One program encompases all of that?? |
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edgivesup |
Yeah |
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edgivesup |
Three year program |
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edgivesup |
College wants to cut it down to two |
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edgivesup |
Which will probably sacrifice set building and painting |
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jut |
WOW, ok, but two years seems, little, how much practical experience do you get? I mean, I spent a year actualy working weekends and days that aren't busy, and there is still a whole lot that I learn every day |
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edgivesup |
In the context of a college, you have courses to teach you these things, as well as the actual events we have to run |
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It also helped that i did a lot of this through my old highschool's theatre |
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jut |
Yeah I'm still at highschool I can't Image having my job if I ended up in a different highschool, we don't have a teacher responsible, |
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jut |
So students do everything |
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Specular |
this tumblr thing has to be the most buzz online I've seen around an archiving effort in some time |
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Specular |
suddenly everyone is super concerned over their porn disappearing, to a fervor unlike most things :p |
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JAA |
TIL there are protected/private WordPress blogs: http://building21377529309.wordpress.com/ |
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degauss |
Hi, I wonder if I could get some advice on online archiving, please? |
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degauss |
I have a particular task, which is proving difficult. |
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pnJay |
Use more words please degauss |
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JAA |
Don't ask to ask; just ask! :-) |
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degauss |
Ok. I'm trying to archive a site that consists of user-made web pages. For example, MakeYourSite.com/User/YourWebSite. The MakeYourSite.com |
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degauss |
ONLY allows access to specific user pages, and gives me a 403 error on recursive wget attempts. I'm trying to find a way to get the whole site |
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degauss |
before it goes down, it's been up since 1999. |
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degauss |
The site is users.globalnet.co.uk |
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degauss |
I have no idea what the individual user pages are called (I'm not that good...) but I'd like to save them, just in case. |
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pnJay |
Can you find this site on the wayback machine? |
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pnJay |
I can't get that URL to load. |
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degauss |
The URL will only load specific user pages, so unless you know every page you want, it won't show anything. |
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psi |
Userpages do work: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~loxias/ |
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degauss |
I haven't tried Wayback. I have saved the pages I know, but I can't get the ones I don't know about yet. |
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ivan_ |
degauss: try changing your user agent to not be wget |
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ivan_ |
if you want WARCs, grab-site does them and pretends to be Firefox |
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degauss |
I've tried using firefox, mozilla, chrome etc.. No luck. I'll try grab-site. I'm still a bit of a noob. |
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degauss |
* as user agents. |
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JAA |
degauss: Have they announced a shutdown, or are you just (rightly) worried it might disappear? |
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degauss |
I'm just a bit concerned. It's hard to destroy a book, but an entire 90s online culture can disappear in the time it takes to plug a dodgy vacuum cleaner in. |
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degauss |
The company (globalnet) has been bought out many times, it's just a matter of time before someone notices the old customer sites are still up. GDPR and all, they might pull the plug. |
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kiska |
Sorry, did someone say something is going down and we don't have a backup? |
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degauss |
I'm not sure it is going down, but it might. I'll have a bash with grab-site and see how I get on. |
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Yeah, and several such services were shut down recently, e.g. TalkTalk in the UK and the ones hosted by Vodafone in New Zeland. |
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It's only a matter of time until they disappear entirely. |
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(GeoCities Japan is also shutting down in a few months.) |
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Speaking of panic... is there someway to get notified when a new project is initiated? I don't always follow all the AT channels that closely. |
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Jens: #archiveteam is the best place probably. I'm sure you could script something using the projects.json file, but that won't necessarily tell you when a project is actually starting. Or you could use the wiki RSS feed and filter it aggressively, but then you'd only get it with a delay because the wiki isn't usually updated immediately. |
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Have to pay closer attention to IRC then. |
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Jens if you use IRC cloud you can get a ping setup and a push on your mobile |
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Quassel 4 life. |
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doesnt purple bot annouce when a mainproject changes, you could do a ping for that maybe? |
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On that topic, I find it really sad that there's apparently *still* no way to set up push notifications on a self-hosted setup. I found Pushjet which is dead/unmaintained/broken/unmaintained, and even that uses Google Cloud Messaging. That's it (last time I checked a few months ago). :-| |
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purplebot announces wiki page changes through notices to -bs. |
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When it comes to phones, I'm an old fart. I only use mine for calls/messaging 95% of the time. |
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Oh, looks like there were some developments in the past two months: https://github.com/Pushjet/Pushjet-Server-Api/issues/35#issuecomment-431718775 |
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Namely, Pushjet was forked to PushFish, and that Android client uses MQTT rather than GCM for message delivery. Sweet, looks like I need to take a look at that again. |
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Link for the lazy: https://gitlab.com/PushFish |
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Anyway, to get back to the topic, what sort of notification are you looking for then, Jens? |
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I dunno... just something that might trigger me on IRC or something. |
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[alert!] Yahoo is torching another site. Fire up your VMs!!! |
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So when everything's ready for running, you mean? |
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anarcat |
[alert!] the internet is burning, as usual |
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Or before. Shit an alert that shit's going down with AT. |
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*hums* We didn't start the fire... It was already burning Since the world's been turning..." |
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anarcat cues midnight oil |
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Yeah, that's #archiveteam. |
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Unless clueless people walk in and ask random questions before being sent to -bs or here. :-) |
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And we could do a better job actually announcing it. But yeah, set up some fancy highlights on that channel probably. |
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Yeah I would like some kind of system like Jens is describing, "Hey fire lasers" "Hey update your vps or you're burning dollars for no benefits" |
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Anyway, I have to go take care of christmas related things irl. Later. |
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That's exactly what #archiveteam is supposed to be. Well, and "Shit, X is going down. We need to organise!" |
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JAA: I didn't know until I was yelled at. |
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teej_ |
Maybe the topic can be more specific? |
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Unfortunately, topics are extremely limited in length on EFNet, so we can't really add anything. |
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psi |
Noob question: what's -bs |
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#archiveteam-bs |
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Similarly, we're in -ot. |
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We're just too lazy to write the full channel names. |
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Now I have the "We didn't start the fire" song stuck in my head. |
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Oh fuck you |
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Now I've got it in my head |
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Hi all, does anyone have experience / knowledge with Java/Smali and reverse engineering Android apps? I've made some headway but have hit a wall |
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adinbied: Well, there is a reverse engineering channel on Freenode. And there's an android channel as well. |
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So many Sears links are 404s. |
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Thanks, I'll check that out |
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Bah, I'm giving up on Portainer |
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psi |
What a mess to set up |
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Sears pulled an eatons, 20 years after Eatons |
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I got most of sears a few weeks ago. Not sure if I managed to get all the requisites etc though. |
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Is there something like #archivebot that everyone can use? Sometimes I find small sites that aren't the in the archive (or pages are missing) and it's annoying to save page by page |
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yes |
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archivebot |
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If you don't have access to do it yourself, usually asking someone in the channel will get it queued |
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wtf are these clothes: https://ia801507.us.archive.org/19/items/archiveteam_tumblr_20181210134409/david-karp.jpg |
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