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Nickname |
Message |
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systwi |
love SID music |
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00:00
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jrwr |
Rochester free radio 106.3 FM |
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00:00
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jrwr |
I'm already done with my show |
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00:00
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systwi |
mmmm I don't live in or near NY... |
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00:01
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jrwr |
We do online streaming |
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00:01
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jrwr |
As well |
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00:01
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systwi |
oh |
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00:01
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jrwr |
So there's that I did cheat and use a virtual floppy but I did use real hardware |
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00:02
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JAA |
Nice! |
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00:02
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systwi |
https://www.rochesterfreeradio.com/listen/ ? |
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00:02
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jrwr |
Pretty much just playing a bunch of far light and razor1911 crackedtros |
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00:02
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jrwr |
Yeah that's the one |
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00:03
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JAA |
Hah, that brings back memories of leaving cracks open for hours just to listen to the music. :-D |
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00:03
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jrwr |
I was rocking out like it was 1987 all over again |
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00:03
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jrwr |
Yea any looping music I limit the 4to 5 minutes |
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00:03
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JAA |
Is there a recording of the show? |
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00:04
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jrwr |
I don't think so I might be able to pull one out |
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00:04
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jrwr |
But I'll let you know next Monday at 6 p.m. Eastern standard |
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00:04
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jrwr |
I'll do it again |
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00:04
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jrwr |
My show is called the technetium show |
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00:05
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jrwr |
I normally read news but I decided to go way off track |
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00:05
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JAA |
Oh, the radio archive's recording that station. :-) |
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00:05
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jrwr |
Nice |
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00:05
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JAA |
I guess the recordings aren't publicly accessible though. |
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00:06
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systwi |
:( |
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00:06
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jrwr |
It's okay I'll do it next week |
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00:06
🔗
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jrwr |
I really like playing chiptune on the air it's so rare to find anything like that on public radio |
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00:06
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systwi |
JAA: is that the same for the 24/7 television broadcast archival? |
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00:07
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JAA |
systwi: Separate project. |
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00:08
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JAA |
But yeah, I guess it's similar. Started sometime last year. |
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00:08
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systwi |
no i meant that it's not available to the public |
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00:08
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JAA |
Ah, yeah, I guess so. |
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00:08
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JAA |
I think some of the TV recordings are accessible though. |
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00:08
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JAA |
Not sure if everything. |
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00:08
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systwi |
Would you happen to know what stations they're recording? |
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00:09
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systwi |
okay |
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00:09
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systwi |
i've never looked into it but i knew they did it |
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00:09
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JAA |
TV or radio? TV I have no idea. Radio: #radio-archive |
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00:10
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systwi |
i think you might be missing what i'm getting at |
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00:10
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systwi |
either that or I'm confused |
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00:10
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systwi |
oh sorry my mistake |
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00:10
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JAA |
There's a link in the topic of #radio-archive with the list. |
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00:10
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systwi |
i meant which tv stations were being recorded |
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00:10
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JAA |
Right, I have no idea about that. |
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00:11
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Flashfire |
I don’t think there is any archiveteam project or anything similar |
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00:11
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Flashfire |
third parties might do it |
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00:11
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JAA |
Not AT, but IA does something. |
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00:11
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JAA |
#radio-archive is also IA, by the way. |
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00:12
🔗
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JAA |
It just happens that arkiver is also in AT, but all the infrastructure for it is in IA. |
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00:12
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JAA |
As far as I know, anyway. |
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00:12
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Flashfire |
He works at IA? |
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00:13
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JAA |
Yup |
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00:17
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00:25
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jrwr |
holy shit, I didn't know that |
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00:25
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jrwr |
thats funny, I just though he had too much free time |
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00:25
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Flashfire |
Lol |
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00:26
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JAA |
Haha |
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00:29
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jrwr |
is he state side? |
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00:29
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arkiver |
I´m mostly a student |
|
00:30
🔗
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arkiver |
I do like it very much, so most of my free time goes to IA and AT |
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00:31
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jrwr |
I'm running a security conference in march |
|
00:31
🔗
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jrwr |
would love to hear your stories on the methods used to save the internet |
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00:31
🔗
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jrwr |
if you were state side, would love to fly you for the weekend |
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00:32
🔗
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arkiver |
when is it exactly? I´m in the Netherlands |
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00:32
🔗
|
jrwr |
March 23rd |
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00:33
🔗
|
jrwr |
I Plan on having SketchCow as my keynote |
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00:33
🔗
|
jrwr |
so there is that |
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00:33
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arkiver |
Would be awesome if SketchCow can be there |
|
00:34
🔗
|
arkiver |
March 23rd isn´t a perfect day for my, but I´ll keep it in mind |
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00:34
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jrwr |
Ya |
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00:34
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arkiver |
me* |
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00:42
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Jens |
arkiver: If you're a student in .nl, what are you doing up at 01:30? :D |
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00:42
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Jens |
My excuse is being unemployed. |
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00:42
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00:43
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arkiver |
Jens: I don´t go to classes really. I mean it´s all in books anyway, right? |
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00:43
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00:43
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Jens |
True. |
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00:44
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00:44
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Jens |
I've also always found it easier to get work done at night. |
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00:45
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JAA |
Also, video recordings. |
|
00:47
🔗
|
Jens |
I'm considering going back to school. |
|
00:48
🔗
|
Jens |
Bit late at 38, but they say you're never too old to learn. |
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00:54
🔗
|
JAA |
https://blog.github.com/2019-01-07-new-year-new-github/ |
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00:55
🔗
|
JAA |
Unlimited free private repos at GitHub |
|
00:55
🔗
|
JAA |
Aka "Please give us all your secret code. We promise to behave!" ~ Microsoft |
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00:55
🔗
|
arkiver |
haha, nice |
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00:55
🔗
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Jens |
Already deleted my account when MS bought them. |
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00:56
🔗
|
JAA |
I wish I could, but all AT stuff is on GitHub unfortunately. |
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00:56
🔗
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Flashfire |
Did you back it up? |
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01:00
🔗
|
godane |
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jan/07/big-tech-data-internet |
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01:00
🔗
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Jens |
Moved it all to Gitlab. |
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01:06
🔗
|
JAA |
Your own instance? |
|
01:06
🔗
|
Jens |
Nah, it's just some crappy scripts and configs. |
|
01:07
🔗
|
Jens |
Sadly, I lost years worth of my code and misc. stuff a while ago :/ |
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01:08
🔗
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JAA |
:-/ |
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01:10
🔗
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godane |
my latest digitize scans: https://www.patreon.com/posts/digitize-scans-23830240 |
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01:22
🔗
|
JAA |
This just in: Linus Tech Tips forum users are not the brightest... https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/504573-734pb-space-not-enough/ |
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01:22
🔗
|
Jens |
*mild chock* |
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01:22
🔗
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JAA |
(It's a bug in Windows's ZIP extraction tool.) |
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01:23
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astrid |
lol |
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02:56
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kode54 |
oh |
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02:56
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kode54 |
bug in windows zip |
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02:56
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kode54 |
but still, sounds like they had a dodgy zip file anyway |
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02:56
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kode54 |
even if it wasn't dodgy, recent Windows should have fixed that ages ago |
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02:57
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kode54 |
(use 7zip instead) |
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03:38
🔗
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yano |
systwi: heya |
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03:38
🔗
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systwi |
hey |
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03:38
🔗
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yano |
we should probably move the convo here |
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03:38
🔗
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systwi |
oh yeah |
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03:38
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yano |
because, ya know, topics and such |
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03:39
🔗
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systwi |
yeah |
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03:41
🔗
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yano |
systwi: this is what i need to update, https://gist.github.com/myano/8b94219b9e81b5279f115d5c6c00d8ed |
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03:43
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systwi |
i see |
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03:44
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yano |
systwi: okay, i just updated it |
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03:44
🔗
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systwi |
don't mean to go off topic, but how did you pick up python? i've been meaning to learn it but don't know where to start |
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03:44
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systwi |
sorry for the noob question |
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03:44
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yano |
no worries :-) |
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03:44
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yano |
i started about 10 years ago at a local python conference |
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03:44
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yano |
i basically jumped in to one of those "pair programming" workshops and forced myself to participate |
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03:45
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systwi |
what are those? |
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03:45
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yano |
several years later i had a job doing some python dev like stuffs |
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03:45
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03:45
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systwi |
cool! glad to hear it worked out nicely for you! |
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03:45
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yano |
it's where you pair up with another person and the two of you are both noobs and you are given a task to write a program that does something like, "calculate the first 20 fibonacci numbers" or something |
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03:46
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systwi |
oh that sounds fun |
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03:46
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yano |
and you two both struggle through it, lol |
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03:46
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yano |
ultimately you learn how to google and apply StackOverflow answers :-P |
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03:46
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systwi |
i did that once in school with c++ |
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03:46
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yano |
but along the way you pick up some fundamentals |
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03:47
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yano |
systwi: nice |
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03:47
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yano |
c++ is a good language to know |
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03:47
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yano |
imho |
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03:47
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systwi |
my friend was basically making me do all the work b/c he didn't know (i didn't either for the record, and i still don't, but i know bash so i know logical thinking) |
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03:47
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yano |
even if you don't use it all the time, it helps you understand more of what is going on from a "lower" perspective |
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03:47
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yano |
and you can keep stepping down, by learning C and then ASM next |
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03:47
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systwi |
still had fun though |
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03:48
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yano |
eh, i hate group projects like that :-\ |
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03:48
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systwi |
i want to learn c++ so i can write some software in codewarrior for old macintoshes |
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03:48
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yano |
systwi: this is less polished, https://gist.github.com/myano/e36450f8cc753ca5a0724655783aa474 |
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03:49
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yano |
but it archives a person's twitter account |
|
03:49
🔗
|
yano |
but the Twitter API has a limitation of only going back 3200 tweets |
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03:49
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|
systwi |
i like programming but it's not my forte |
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03:49
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|
yano |
i love programming |
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03:49
🔗
|
yano |
i joke that i learned how to program because i'm lazy |
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03:49
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Flashfire |
if you love programming there is always projects that need work |
|
03:49
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systwi |
lol |
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03:49
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Flashfire |
I can suggest some |
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03:49
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yano |
because i'm constantly wondering how i can optimize something |
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03:50
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Flashfire |
Yano a real test of optimisation is xenia |
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03:50
🔗
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yano |
Flashfire: the warrior princess? |
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03:50
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systwi |
wait right there Flashfire |
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03:50
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Flashfire |
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH |
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03:50
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yano |
lol |
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03:50
🔗
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Flashfire |
https://github.com/xenia-project/game-compatibility |
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03:50
🔗
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systwi |
http://macintoshgarden.org/games/xenia |
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03:51
🔗
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yano |
ah |
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03:51
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yano |
i'm not much in to gaming |
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03:51
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systwi |
ohh that xenia |
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03:51
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yano |
the closest i've come to programming games and the such is, https://github.com/myano/lks_game |
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03:52
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systwi |
yano: so that "less polished" link, that saves a person's entire twitter account? |
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03:52
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yano |
systwi: only up to the most recent 3200 tweets |
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03:52
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systwi |
ohhhh |
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03:52
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systwi |
stupid twitter API |
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03:52
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yano |
yeah |
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03:52
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yano |
this will constantly monitor a person's twitter, https://gist.github.com/myano/ddddb56421a8b37c3048164259c60563 |
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03:53
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yano |
so i have a tmux session somewhere running that on a few politician twitter accounts, *cough* trump *cough* :p |
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03:53
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systwi |
and download new tweets? |
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03:53
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yano |
no |
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03:53
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yano |
so |
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03:54
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yano |
$ ./tweets_archive_continue.py realdonaldtrump 3 3 --archivers ia,is |
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03:54
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yano |
that will check every 3 seconds for a new tweet via Twitter's API and then immediately submit them to IA and IS |
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03:54
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yano |
then it'll sleep 3 seconds and continue down if there are more new tweets |
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03:55
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yano |
$ ./tweets_archive_continue.py donaldjtrumpjr 60 20 |
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03:55
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yano |
etc |
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03:55
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systwi |
IS? |
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03:55
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yano |
archive.today/archive.is |
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03:55
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systwi |
ohh beautiful |
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03:55
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yano |
and since it all uses ArchiveNow underneath you can also submit to Megalodon.jp and WebCitation |
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03:55
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systwi |
i have daydreamed of having tools to automate this |
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03:56
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yano |
but, WC and MG take a good 25 to 75 seconds per page |
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03:56
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yano |
IA and IS can do it in under 2 seconds |
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03:56
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yano |
or at least they send you a resulting URL of the save in less than 2-seconds |
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03:56
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systwi |
i like how that sounds! |
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03:57
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yano |
i was all excited to start having them keep an eye on more politicians |
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03:57
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yano |
but then a friend told me i basically re-invented: https://projects.propublica.org/politwoops/ |
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03:58
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yano |
so, 🤷 |
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03:58
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systwi |
well at least you can control it the way you want it |
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03:58
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yano |
yeah |
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03:58
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yano |
as long as you don't query Twitter more than 900 times in a 15 minutes period you're good |
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03:58
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yano |
so that means you could monitor, *cough* trump *cough* once every second |
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03:59
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systwi |
hmmmmmmm........ |
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03:59
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systwi |
oh, hey, could it be possible (and i'm not asking for you to make it for me) to monitor someone's youtube account and download new videos when they are uploaded with solely python? |
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03:59
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yano |
but i moved mine up to once every 3 seconds so i can have more API calls to do other things |
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03:59
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systwi |
i hoard a lot of youtube videos and i have to manually check channels every so often |
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03:59
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yano |
systwi: probably, you can get a Google API key for YouTube through the Developer Console |
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04:00
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yano |
i have no idea what the API limits are |
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04:00
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systwi |
hopefully within reason for a datahoarder hahaha |
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04:01
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yano |
probably |
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04:03
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systwi |
would you happen to know if that API key is free? |
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04:03
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yano |
yeah |
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04:03
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systwi |
nice |
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04:03
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systwi |
thank you for help yano! |
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04:03
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yano |
one of my irc bots used to have one for making fancy YT url titles |
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04:04
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yano |
systwi: yw! |
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04:05
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systwi |
i've been making some bash scripts for neatly organizing each video into their own channel folders |
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04:05
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systwi |
the only problem is in order to watch a video i need to know both the channel name and channel ID so I can go to the right folder |
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04:05
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systwi |
i just wish i had like an offline, self hosted, indexed youtube |
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04:06
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yano |
if you need to download the videos there is https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/ |
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04:06
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systwi |
yep that's my go-to |
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04:06
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yano |
nice |
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04:10
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yano |
also, don't go faster than 1 URL per every 20 seconds when submitting to IS or they'll temp block your ip |
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04:11
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systwi |
oh really? |
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04:11
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systwi |
thanks for the heads up |
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04:11
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yano |
with the IA you can get down to 1 URL every 2-3 seconds |
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04:11
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systwi |
i didn't know that was a thing |
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04:11
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yano |
yeah, IS is a bit wonky and sometimes unstable |
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04:11
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yano |
the IA is so much better |
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04:12
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yano |
perma.cc is nice but you can only submit 10 URLs a month, and they are not publicly searchable :( |
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04:12
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systwi |
before finding out about archivebot i had written a bash script to take all urls from a text file, open a new webpage with "https://web.archive.org/save/URL" and wait 5 seconds before each one |
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04:12
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systwi |
oh that sucks |
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ah, neat |
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neat yes, but cleaning up after the script was done; it would be easier to clean up for a messy pet |
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yano |
i have one of my irc bots in a politics channel on freenode where the mods wanted something to archive news articles posted in the channel, so now my irc bot immediately archives them when posted |
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systwi |
awesome! so handy! |
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systwi |
python? |
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yano |
yup |
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systwi |
cool |
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yano |
i also archive any apnews.com URLs in other channels |
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systwi |
i didn't realize how versatile py was |
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yano |
python is awesome |
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yano |
this is my bot, https://github.com/myano/jenni |
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but i wouldn't recommend using it |
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it's awful |
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i used jenni to teach me python over the past 10-years |
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yano |
it's a train wreck |
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yano |
use https://sopel.chat/ instead |
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systwi |
it looks cool |
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systwi |
alright, sorry man, gotta go, nice talking with ya yano and Flashfir_e and t_3 (didn't want to bother them) and anyone else i may have missed |
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yano |
cool beans |
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yano |
catch ya later |
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systwi: regarding your youtubedl bash scripts. instead of going to individual folders to watch videos, symlink the videos to a general folder. when finished watching - the video stays archived in the channel folder |
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but you remove the symlink and forget about it :) |
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kode54: See the following link for my analysis of that behaviour a while ago. It seems to be related to ZIP64, which is apparently not supported (properly) by Windows's ZIP tool. https://old.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/8ajycy/are_these_the_linux_isos_you_all_have/dwziya3/ |
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Kate Wagner (who runs the excellent McMansion Hell blog) recently wrote an essay for The Baffler on how the modern Internet is simultaneously destroying and reapproriating the pre-modern Internet\: https://thebaffler.com/salvos/404-page-not-found-wagner |
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Flashfire |
Astrid hook54321 on appealing my ban to archivebot it I could be unbanned and not voiced that would be good. Don’t give me access to the bot but sometimes I do find stuff good including sites not in wayback at all |
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Flashfire |
If it could be looked at and evaluated that would be fantastic |
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your request is being considered by the archiveteam high council |
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you should expect a response after the next conclave |
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conclaves are held in prime-numbered years |
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Well fuck by 2027 will I still be alive |
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astrid |
Flashfire: evading your ban is a poor choice if you want it lifted |
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astrid |
ohai |
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hook54321 |
It'll be discussed soon probably, just be patient. |
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Flashfire: decision is you're not getting archivebot voice or op back. If you happen to be given these, you're to ask an op to deop/voice you. |
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Kaz |
In addition to this, you're staying banned for 24h from #archivebot, with ban time extending if you're caught trying to evade it again |
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any issue with that I'm happy to discuss in pm, fwiw |
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Flashfire |
I can deal with this. May I make the bold request of asking for a copy of the discussion of my return |
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you can request it but I don't think you're going to get it |
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Flashfire |
Alright |
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