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t3 |
Hello. |
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02:19
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t3 |
How does paypal@silent-ghost.eu work? |
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marked |
I'm not sure, but the question is for Fusl |
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t3 |
Is there a way I can make the background of Grafana white so I can make a screenshot of it? |
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02:56
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t3 |
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41006070/how-to-change-default-black-color-of-grafana#41007984 |
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t3 |
I'm having trouble doing it on my iPad. |
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03:15
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t3 |
Who has access to the @archiveteam Twitter account? |
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03:15
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marked |
I'm on workstation now. what graphs do you want? |
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03:16
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t3 |
marked: Hmm... let me see. |
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03:22
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Flashfire |
http://www.chlapecahvezda.cz/ not often you see the root domain redirect to garbage usually they just inject extra site maps |
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03:24
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t3 |
marked: A graph that says "Estimated upload throughput (all users stacked)" |
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03:24
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t3 |
I need a large screenshot version of it, without the usernames. |
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03:25
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t3 |
Hopefully the axis labels will be large enough. |
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03:25
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t3 |
marked: You can find it near the bottom of https://atdash.meo.ws/d/BQbN9QEiz/archive-team-tracker-charts |
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03:26
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t3 |
Oh, the axis timeframe needs to be changed. |
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03:26
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t3 |
One second. |
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03:27
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t3 |
By the way, to make the background bright, use "Configuration -> Preferences -> UI Theme -> Light". |
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03:27
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t3 |
From the "Grafana Home Dashboard". |
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03:37
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marked |
It's being slow, but more important I'm not seeing it, checking CSS in debug. |
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03:38
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t3 |
marked: Don't worry, I think I might be able to make a link to it. |
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03:38
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t3 |
Testing out https://atdash.meo.ws/d/BQbN9QEiz/archive-team-tracker-charts?orgId=1&from=1552021200000&to=1553738400000&var-project=googleplus&var-ival=%24__auto_interval_ival&var-largeival=%24__auto_interval_largeival&theme=light&panelId=13&fullscreen |
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marked |
seems to work |
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03:42
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t3 |
I think we can do `var-largeival=1m` instead. |
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03:43
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t3 |
https://atdash.meo.ws/d/BQbN9QEiz/archive-team-tracker-charts?orgId=1&from=1552021200000&to=1553738400000&var-project=googleplus&var-ival=%24__auto_interval_ival&var-largeival=1m&theme=light&panelId=13&fullscreen |
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03:53
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t3 |
Can you can get a screenshot of that? |
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03:54
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t3 |
A widescreen screenshot, without the users on the right. |
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03:54
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t3 |
If you have a big monitor, that helps. You can also resize the browser window. |
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03:58
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marked |
I have a very big monitor. you want it at maximum size? |
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t3 |
Uh... just large enough with the axis labels on the sides to be large enough so that they can be easily seen if I were to resize and squeeze it onto the press release document. |
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04:04
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marked |
I'll do it at max size and then tell me what happens when you put it in place |
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04:07
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t3 |
Uh. Just take a screenshot, and then I can add it to the Google Docs document. |
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04:07
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marked |
I think it's the opposite. when the browser is big and you scale down the image the labels end up small |
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04:08
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t3 |
Yes. So don't make it too big or too small. Probably wider is better. |
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marked |
yeah, this is from a big monitor: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RsSIUs8J4xk1lpBWgIzEASjOd0IKOqfF/view?usp=drivesdk |
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04:12
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marked |
1920x1200 monitor: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KhBC4vM5-XD8TEhlwrfUb4u99SoGSNpb/view?usp=drivesdk |
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marked |
for where you're putting it, tell me if you taller or wider than the last one |
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t3 |
Um... |
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04:19
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t3 |
Let's just see what it looks like with a shorter and wider one. |
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marked |
shorter, probably same width, https://drive.google.com/file/d/13FyYQoEVZVXmced4rhp82QFkZ6Y0W24Y/view?usp=drivesdk |
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04:27
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t3 |
I just wish there was a high DPI version... |
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marked |
shorter and wider: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WwnR83l2ai5e1_dQaafXMOtd0i0gl06a/view?usp=drivesdk |
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marked |
does grafana have high dpi mode? |
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04:28
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t3 |
I think it's more of a system thing. |
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marked |
could try it on a mac retina |
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t3 |
Are you using Windows? |
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marked |
ipads are retina too |
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marked |
what's it doing on ipad ? |
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04:30
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marked |
I'm on Linux |
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marked |
If it set the browser to 3x and use a 5k monitor it kinda does what you want. |
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t3 |
Perfect. |
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04:35
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t3 |
Try that. |
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04:37
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marked |
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q0nzytY_oEAHgc8URa51cS4QkQnKgWMF/view?usp=drivesdk |
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t3 |
I think that looks good. |
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04:40
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marked |
that's like chrome at 300%, monitor at 4000 x 2560 |
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04:58
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t3 |
Thanks marked. You're awesome. |
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04:59
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marked |
NP, happy to support a dedicated volunteer |
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05:16
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t3 |
So where does "2.7TB of data archived per hour" come from? |
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05:17
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t3 |
It's on the bottom of the Google Docs page (use ctrl/cmd + f to search for it). |
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05:24
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marked |
I see it in gDoc. Well, it's either in grafana or not |
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05:24
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jut |
7.5 Gbps *60*60/8000=3.4 Tbph |
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jut |
*TBph |
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05:27
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marked |
actually, there's a graph for that |
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marked |
https://atdash.meo.ws/d/BQbN9QEiz/archive-team-tracker-charts?orgId=1&from=1553707694113&to=1553750894113&var-project=googleplus&var-ival=%24__auto_interval_ival&var-largeival=%24__auto_interval_largeival&panelId=6&fullscreen |
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marked |
but jut was correct nontheless |
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IanR |
if thats what we store, thats little more than a quarter of what is actually stored |
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marked |
You mean because machines are missing? |
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IanR fans his hands out in the air, and in big brightly colored and sparkling letters appears the word "compression". |
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05:38
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t3 |
https://tracker.archiveteam.org |
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05:38
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t3 |
Tracker seems to stop working for me. |
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05:38
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IanR |
yeah, they're chewingon it now |
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05:40
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IanR |
contemplating giving XP-chan more RAM it seems |
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05:40
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t3 |
3.4 terabits per hour is roughly 2.7 terabytes per hour? |
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marked |
I don't think so |
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marked |
What number are you starting from and want to go to? |
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IanR |
actually this looks about right according to my offline back of a napkin calcs |
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t3 |
7.5 Gbps is 3.37 TB/h. |
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marked: Do you think the first graph looks too big? I can't seem to get it on the first page. I can try to make the fonts smaller. |
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t3 |
marked: Although it looks very nice, can you make a someone shorter version of it? The same width still works. |
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t3 |
Somewhat shorter version* |
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t3 |
Woah, Fusl's rate went down. |
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t3 |
marked: Let me know when you get the chance to make it. |
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t3 |
I don't have Adobe InDesign, otherwise it would have been easier, and prettier. |
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marked: Actually, it might just be alright. I'll just play around with the formatting a little more. |
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t3 |
I am ver close to finishing the press release. |
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t3 |
Very* |
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marked: New users are starting to run the scripts/Warrior because of your Reddit post! Nice! |
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t3 |
Where did Fusl's PayPal URL go? |
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08:14
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t3 |
Who is Silent Ghost? |
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t3 |
Is that Fusl's domain? |
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08:20
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t3 |
Fusl: For the PayPal, have it say Archive Team. |
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08:32
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t3 |
marked: I think the press release is complete. |
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08:32
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t3 |
All we have to do is save it as a PDF. |
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t3 |
I'm assuming you don't need the Reddit part of the Google Docs anymore. |
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08:36
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t3 |
I'm going to delete the rest of the content and only keep the press release stuff. |
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08:40
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t3 |
marked: So here is the stuff on the bottom of the document just in case we still need it: |
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08:40
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t3 |
https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/jP63NFfv |
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08:41
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t3 |
marked: Okay, so the press release should be hosted on https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Google%2B_press_release |
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t3 |
First export it as a PDF by doing File > Download as > PDF document. That should be the final draft. |
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08:49
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t3 |
Actually, just check your PMs / private messages. |
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08:52
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eientei95 |
t3: Chuck it here and I can give it a proof |
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t3 |
eientei95: Proof? |
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08:53
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eientei95 |
Proofread |
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08:55
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t3 |
eientei95: Okay. Don't modify anything too much. It's at a final draft state. Just make comments using the Comments tool, otherwise changes will appear on the exports. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qMwUxD3x2gZJB1I9Uc3nTSIfYkfas1XDMxAnclo7aIA/edit?usp=sharing |
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eientei95: I'm going to sleep. Let marked know if you make any changes. |
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t3 |
Thanks for proofreading, though. |
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09:00
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t3 |
Goodnight. |
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KoalaBear |
Goodnight, when is it going to be published? Time is running out |
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eientei95 |
marked: Made a few suggestions in the PR as suggestions that you can easily click the tick to accept |
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jut |
Can somebody who uses reddit crosspost to r/google |
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t3: i can't have it say archive team |
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Fusl |
it's a paypal.me link |
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KoalaBear |
I hope the press release will be posted BEFORE April 2 ;) :P |
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t3 |
Fusl: Okay well, I guess that is fine. |
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15:37
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t3 |
Fusl: Do you have access to the bitcoin wallet? |
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marked |
I'm sitting on the press release for an hour incase we're migrating trackers |
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marked |
otherwise I think it's ready |
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marked |
should recompile the list of outlets we want to snt it to, and find their method of contact |
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t3 |
Okay. Thanks marked. |
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Fusl |
t3: depends |
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15:41
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Fusl |
if its mine, yes |
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t3 |
marked: Do you have the PDF file of the press release? |
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15:43
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t3 |
Can you put a link to it on here? This way Fusl can check it. |
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JAA |
What "press release" are you talking about? |
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Fusl |
still the same |
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Fusl |
we have a PR team now |
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15:47
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Fusl |
we're paying them with bread and water |
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15:48
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JAA |
Right, and the "press" is /r/DataHoarder. |
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marked |
print proofing now |
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t3 |
marked: Thanks. It's just File > Download as > PDF document. |
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marked |
in the codeshare add the email or urls for the news agencies, they don't like to get stories late |
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marked |
they prefer simultaneously |
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marked |
Does Sketch live in Boston? |
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jut |
Meaby you should ask him? SketchCow |
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marked |
Sketch also needs to read this if he's goign to be point of contact, or he'll be really confused when people ask him questions |
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SketchCow |
What is this. |
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jut |
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qMwUxD3x2gZJB1I9Uc3nTSIfYkfas1XDMxAnclo7aIA/edit?usp=sharing |
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marked |
A bunch of anonymous authors on the internet wrote a 3 page press release on teh Google+ project |
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Fusl |
oh god don't sho |
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Fusl |
crap |
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SketchCow |
Really. "Give Fusl money" |
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Fusl |
for my self defense, i didn't write any of this |
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SketchCow |
Did someone give marked point on something |
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marked |
something or this? people just started doing it own, for the most part |
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marked |
and I just want to fix the English |
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SketchCow |
I just meant the generally bad idea of giving you point on anything, which it appears they did |
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SketchCow |
I haven't lived in Boston in a decade. |
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SketchCow |
I mean, even the Wikipedia entry says that, even if the town they list me as living in is wrong (which I like) |
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jut |
@Kaz> as long as my name isn't on it, do whatever the fuck you want. archiveteam is anarchy and nobody is in charge |
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jut hides |
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SketchCow |
Anyway, whatever, looks like we're asking for money because a resource is low? |
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JAA |
I think we have that figured out at the moment. The rsync targets are no longer the limiting factor, we're murdering the tracker now. |
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SketchCow |
We should really, really either pay for someone to fix the tracker or fix the tracker. |
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kiska |
Tracker is very much ablaze |
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marked |
it's like ping pong, or whack a mole |
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SketchCow |
I hear all sorts of whining |
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marked |
I've got plans for the tracker |
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marked |
but nobody made me point on that either |
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marked |
we flip flop between needing more warriors nd needing more rsync targets |
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kiska |
I don't want to touch code when its being used for a project, once G+ finishes I'll take a look at the tracker |
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marked |
we're talking a 2 line change |
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marked: making redis run faster is not a 2 line change |
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anyways |
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we need more workers |
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kiska |
I'll probably replace redis with just using mariadb with memcache |
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marked |
so I just mean there's low hanging fruit, like turning off urlteam |
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Fusl |
fuck the tracker, really |
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it will hand out jobs as the load is low |
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what we really need is more workers |
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marked |
we need more warriors then we spend money on more targets if it becomes a problem |
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lindner has proven that it is actually possible to push the tracker's limits even more |
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SketchCow |
If someone lets marked near the tracker you will hear me sound a horn that is the horn of Gabriel |
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marked |
if the tracker falls over, we remove oen more tasks |
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Fusl |
we're at 1.4k/min now |
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SketchCow |
I will leave channels |
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JAA |
Why is the Google+ talk happening here and the OT talk in #googleminus? |
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yano |
lol |
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SketchCow |
Because marked |
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marked |
we just need an Ok on the press release |
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marked |
either for more warriors or money for targets |
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marked: make it clearer that we need more workers |
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Fusl |
write it in red bold text |
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Fusl |
size 50 |
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Fusl |
and make it less obvious that we're looking for donations if |
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at least that the donations go to me at first before getting burned into nvme instances |
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Fusl |
SketchCow actually has a point on that |
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Fusl |
"Fusl's PayPal URL", "Fusl's PayPal email", "Fusl's BTC address" |
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marked |
I dont' like that either. but the only other thing we coudl find was opencollective or donate to archive.org |
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Fusl |
then include that |
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marked |
which is fine except opencollective takes 10% and neither will help the crawl this week |
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Fusl |
as mentioned in the other channel |
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Fusl |
i have enough money for 15 more nvme instances now |
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JAA |
"If you would like to donate, please consider donating to IA or contact us on IRC" or similar? |
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marked |
how about opencollective, IA, and a BTC wallet |
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JAA |
Why ask for donations if we don't need (monetary) donations at the moment? |
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marked |
partially beacuse if we spike warriors, it's just a matter of time before we need rsync targets |
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but I'm not in a position to know when we'll need targets |
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JAA |
Fusl just mentioned that she has enough money for 15 more targets. |
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JAA |
That should be enough for now. |
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marked |
so someone is welcome to estimate otherwise |
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kiska |
As I said, we have 2 servers on standby, and 2 servers that can be made ready very quickly |
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kiska |
And are very fast at ingesting data |
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ie 2.5gbps |
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The only thing outsiders can currently help with is running warriors/scripts, I think. |
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marked |
there's only 2 paragraphs about what to do |
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marked |
one is donate, and one is volunteering |
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SketchCow |
I took my name/contact off it |
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marked |
this wasn't my idea by the way |
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marked |
if you don't want anything pushed to press, say that instead |
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marked |
the group wants more warriors |
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marked |
doesn't matter how they come |
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SketchCow |
Watch this. |
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SketchCow |
This is the last time I am addressing you directly. |
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SketchCow |
Bip. |
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Fusl |
rip |
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Fusl: You just tell me what's needed here. |
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I feel like there's two sets. The panic-stricken, turn-chairs-into-ladders horseshit of an impossible deadline |
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And then the longer term recognition that if we do Google+ size projects in the future, we should clean the curtains. |
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And in most cases we can handle the usual traffic of a site of a few tens of thousands accounts under the current system, even though a relatively small number of people know how the engine works. |
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Is this accurate? |
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aye |
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Yup |
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I get noise from people that this or that is "breaking", which I realize now was probably 100% marked making shit up AGAIN, but if there's some honest dedicated resources to the underlying infrastructure, I can do what I can. |
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I mean outside of "Google+ is fucking huge" |
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marked |
please don't mention my name if i'm not allowed to defend myself. I was workign on proactive problems, when others were busy with current problems. that my profession. |
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Shut up. |
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So, action wise, just let me know or if we're going to just need something as simple as funding to fix this. And how much. |
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wp494 |
IMO why even bother with a "press" thing |
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just announce things like we've been annoucning them for years |
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wp494: Spoiler, the "press" is /r/DataHoarder. |
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JAA |
The text is longer, and there's formatting in it. That's about it as far as I can tell. |
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wp494 |
so...exactly like how we've been doing things the past few years if we need assistance to throw more things at <x> |
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I'm starting to feel as though this "press release" was a wasted effort. However, it was built off of the suggests of users. If donations aren't necessary, they can be removed from the document. The main emphasis can be to have more users volunteer as Warriors. |
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if we're soliciting donations, priority #1 above all else should be IA |
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absolutely no exceptions |
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Right. Those changes can be made. |
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t3 |
Does anyone else have constructive feedback about the press release? |
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t3 |
Why is this on #archiveteam-ot? This is actually #archiveteam-bs related. |
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SketchCow |
Because marked. |
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SketchCow |
Take it to -#bs |
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wp494 |
---- -BS -BS -BS -BS -BS ---- |
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SketchCow: If that was a joke, it wasn't funny. |
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I'm moving this discussion to #archiveteam-bs. |
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http://www.worldbackupday.com/en/ |
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https://old.reddit.com/r/trackers/comments/b3bdwh/asiandvdclub_gone_for_good/ |
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dont mention the Anime Club though |
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