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Hintswen |
Youtube Red sucks. FYI. |
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t3 |
Hintswen: Did you buy it? |
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Hintswen |
I've had it for ages |
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kode54 |
my favorite part is how you can't watch two videos at once |
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t3 |
Hintswen: I think the YouTube subscriptions are confusing. |
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t3 |
I don't like how I can't have YouTube videos running in the background. |
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Hintswen |
I listen to rhett and link on google music, I watch some of their videos on youtube... and yet only now do I find out they have a series on red, it's been out for 2 years |
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Hintswen |
I've scrolled through the list of shows and never seen it there because of how badly organized it is |
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kode54 |
they renamed Red to Premium |
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t3 |
Yeah. YouTube is going downhill in the past few years. |
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Hintswen |
I've knows shows exist and scroll through to find them, and they don't show up unless I search for the name itself |
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t3 |
Has been* |
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Hintswen |
they don't see to use any of their analytics to detemine what shows you will like |
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Hintswen |
they don't advertise the shows to you |
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Hintswen |
they don't make it easy to find shows you will like |
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Hintswen |
and now I've been having constant issues with the app crashing |
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Hintswen |
reinstalled the app, still randomly crashes |
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t3 |
Me too. |
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Hintswen |
better yet, say I have 10 videos downloaded, I play the 5th, then the 6th and delete the 5th |
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t3 |
It's been crashing seemingly randomly for the past few months for me. |
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Hintswen |
becasue the 6th video is now 5th it will do one fo a handful of things |
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Hintswen |
it wil leither crash, start showing the thumbnail for the next video instead of the video, or start playing the next video |
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Hintswen |
same thign happens if I am watching a downloaded video and start downloading another one |
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t3 |
Oh, that's worse than I thought. |
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Hintswen |
I don't know if it's still like this but the android app lets you see comments on downloaded videos, and the ios app doesn't |
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t3 |
It probably still doesn't. |
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Hintswen |
I mena the ios app still doesn't but I don't know if the android one lets you |
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Hintswen |
I assume it still does |
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Hintswen |
downlaoded videos don't show if you have watched them (or partially watched them) and don't resume where you left off |
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Hintswen |
also youtube's watch history seriously sucks. I managed to watch enough videos that it basically cleared my watch history within a few days |
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Hintswen |
I can't remember how many videos it remembers but it's not enough (that was the web version not the app) |
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Hintswen |
I never relalized there was a limit until that happened |
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t3 |
My watch history was somehow cleared too! I was so annoyed. |
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04:09
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t3 |
I mainly only watch YouTube from the app. |
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04:10
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t3 |
And in the past year, they started showing ads right near the end of the video, but not exactly at the end. |
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Hintswen |
it's happened to me a lot mor recently... the number of times I've gone to catch up on an old series and it doesn't know what I've watched so I have no idea what is next |
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t3 |
I rate YouTube very low on the App Store. |
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04:11
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t3 |
But that's not going to change anything. |
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t3 |
I'm just want YouTube to start dying, so people can move to a better service. |
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Hintswen |
like vimeo :) |
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Hintswen |
vimeo seems like a much higher quality |
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Hintswen |
much cleaner player and website too |
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t3 |
Yeah. It does. |
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t3 |
I really want Floatplane to do well. |
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Hintswen |
I don't but only because I'm sick of LTT and the ads inside videos xD (but secretly yeah, hope it does well) |
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t3 |
Floatplane I think would be ad-free. |
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t3 |
And the content creators would get much more profit from their content, I think. |
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IanQ |
just got finished catching up on #googleminus, "if I walked, the movie would be over" |
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VoynichCr |
i have been archiving the mainpage of 5,000 newspapers worldwide for the last 6 months, using /save/ service |
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VoynichCr |
example https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://nwlaborpress.org/ |
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Flashfire |
I have been trying to save at least 50 random pages from the depths of the internet every day |
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VoynichCr |
are you Yahoo robot? |
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Flashfire |
https://archive.org/details/@flashfire42&tab=web-archive |
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Flashfire |
i dont know if that will load for you it doesnt on my piece of shit computer |
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Flashfire |
VoynichCr no yahoo bot just gets lost and goes around in circles on bot traps |
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Flashfire |
http://www.drunkmenworkhere.org |
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Flashfire |
like this |
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VoynichCr |
"Web archives" tab doesnt load for me many times |
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VoynichCr |
honestly it only worked for me once |
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phiresky |
i want a browser plugin that just automatically archives every website i visit (preferably so the website can be displayed exactly as it was later) |
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Flashfire |
Nah that wouldnt work |
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Flashfire |
You visit paypal or some shit and suddenly thats up on the archive |
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ivan |
how much latency are you willing to tolerate while it saves things |
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phiresky |
well it shouldn't upload it anywhere, just have it locally |
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phiresky |
maybe as a second step filter by somehow detecting if it's public data and then publish |
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phiresky |
ivan: not very much. but i don't think it would need to increase latency much, chrome extensions have apis for caching requests etc |
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phiresky |
though i'm not sure if they can be used for that purpose |
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IanQ |
yeah, writing and processing can be lazy compared to load and render |
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phiresky |
or maybe as an alternative (or addition) save the whole rendered DOM (after script execution etc) |
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phiresky |
because of increasing non-determinism for lots of websites |
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IanQ |
I have to say, I want to see web hosts that force users to make things that look nothing like the underlying html, hit with a trout |
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phiresky |
you mean that render everything client side? |
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IanQ |
for some definitions of render |
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phiresky |
which ones? |
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phiresky |
like facebook.com or youtube.com? |
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IanQ |
not sure I've looked at either of their underlying code much |
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IanQ |
basically I miss web 1.0 |
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phiresky |
yeah ok |
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phiresky |
well it's funny cause i write pretty much all my websites to be as much client side as possible, because then i can keep the backend minimal |
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phiresky |
e.g. this one https://phiresky.github.io/tv-show-ratings/ doesn't have a backend at all even though it looks like it needs one |
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IanQ |
a lot of content is handled as dynamic although it is generally static, which is why the chairs around me should be nailed to the floor |
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VoynichCr |
phiresky: i think that kind of plugin is easy to code. Just call /save/ service every time you load a webpage, in background (ajax) |
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VoynichCr |
it wont save stuff like paypal (flashfire) because /save/ isnt logged in your accounts |
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phiresky |
yeah but i also don't want to hammer archive.org |
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VoynichCr |
i dont think you can hammer IA, they archive stuff 1GB/s or more https://tools.wmflabs.org/wmcounter/ia/ |
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IanQ |
that the googleplus project is getting backed up is a counter-qed |
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phiresky |
relevant: what happens when IA realizes storing data is fucking expensive and have to start deleting stuff? |
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IanQ |
I'd assume they'd remove redundancy, or get more donors, or perhaps ditch gzip for zstd, or start deduping their archives :-) |
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VoynichCr |
storing data is cheaper every year |
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VoynichCr |
they add 1PB of storage bimonthly on average https://archive.org/~tracey/stats/df-year.png |
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IanQ |
hmm, capacity there just in time for G+ |
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VoynichCr |
last month were 4PB for Google+ i guess |
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phiresky |
how aware are they of the g+ project? |
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VoynichCr |
they are |
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IanQ |
its kinda big, pushing on them rather hard, someone probably noticed ;-) |
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phiresky |
but how will they prioritize their data when they run out of space/money |
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IanQ |
I don't expect their capacity to drop any time soon |
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phiresky |
you mean their capability of keeping up |
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IanQ |
if they run out first step is not taking in more I suspect |
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IanQ |
not exactly an instantaneous mushroom cloud there |
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phiresky |
true |
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phiresky |
tho even their regular expenses must be pretty high considering they have no income |
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IanQ |
their donor list looks substantial |
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marked |
In web 1.0, you could conceptually use something like squid and save to a non ejecting cache |
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phiresky |
is there an irc server with valid tls certificate? |
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simon816 |
for efnet? There are some that are self-signed. I added a trust for the self-signed fingerprint |
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marked |
everyone can have SSL now with Let's Encrypt I thought |
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phiresky |
yeah i'm connected to one with a self signed one, but there's a ugly exclamation mark next to it in thelounge |
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