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0|0|0|USE TEMP B-TREE FOR ORDER BY |
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Yeah, that does not sound good. |
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ivan: Hmm, any ideas how to avoid that? Even an index over (priority, status, id) (i.e. the columns I ORDER BY) doesn't help. |
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JAA |
The query SQLAlchemy generates is: SELECT ... FROM queued_urls WHERE queued_urls.status IN ('todo', 'error') ORDER BY queued_urls.priority DESC, queued_urls.status DESC, queued_urls.id LIMIT 1 OFFSET 0; |
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And this is what SQLite makes of it: |
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ivan |
JAA: I assume you need an index that matches most of the ORDER BY, either forward or reverse |
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ivan: CREATE INDEX ix_queued_urls_prio_status_id ON queued_urls (priority DESC, status DESC, id); should do that, no? |
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ivan |
you confirmed this index exists? |
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ivan |
hmm |
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ivan |
https://www.sqlite.org/lang_indexedby.html |
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sqlite> EXPLAIN QUERY PLAN SELECT * FROM queued_urls WHERE status = "todo" AND priority = 0 LIMIT 1; |
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JAA |
Index seems to be fine. |
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maybe the sqlalchemy is a little too complicated for the query planner |
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ivan |
maybe the IN or the OFFSET |
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ivan |
try minimized versions |
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Dropping OFFSET and rewriting the IN to status = "todo" OR status = "error" makes no difference. |
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Using only 'status = "todo"' instead of the OR gets rid of the EXECUTE LIST SUBQUERY, but that's probably not the issue. |
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Yeah, doesn't seem to make a difference for the performance. |
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The query SQLAlchemy generates seems to be pretty basic really. Haven't seen OFFSET before, but that should simply get optimised out probably. |
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Otherwise, it's exactly how I'd write that query by hand as well. |
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Hmmm |
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sqlite> EXPLAIN QUERY PLAN SELECT * FROM queued_urls INDEXED BY ix_queued_urls_prio_status_id WHERE queued_urls.status IN ('todo', 'error') ORDER BY queued_urls.priority DESC, queued_urls.status DESC, queued_urls.id LIMIT 1; |
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Interesting. |
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heh |
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Yup, that INDEXED BY makes all the difference. |
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I wonder if anyone ever uses wpull with a non-SQLite DB. |
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Except me with that PostgreSQL setup, but I replaced the entire URLTable there anyway since SQLAlchemy had such terrible performance. |
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Maybe we can just get rid of it entirely. I mean, the code looks nice and everything, but it's just *soo* slow compared to writing optimised SQL. |
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Or even just writing standard SQL. |
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For example, the queued_urls table has parent_id and root_id columns to refer to the parent and root URL, respectively. |
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But if you make a SELECT, SQLAlchemy doesn't do a JOIN to get that data as well. Nope, instead, when you first access the values, it goes to fetch it from the DB. |
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You can make a SELECT query and get thousands of rows from the table at once, and then it will retrieve the parent and root URL for each entry individually. |
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This was my main issue on the distributed setup. I was checking out URL blocks instead of individual URLs to reduce the latency impact. Well, yeah... |
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Couldn't get SQLAlchemy to do the right thing there either. |
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Anyway... |
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"The INDEXED BY clause is not intended for use in tuning the performance of a query." HAHA, GREAT! |
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It's also "premature optimization" according to https://www.sqlite.org/queryplanner-ng.html#howtofix |
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It probably doesn't help that the 'status' column is a VARCHAR(11) which is then enforced to have one of five values. :-| |
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ivan: Thoughts on using INDEXED BY on SQLite for now since it works and finding a proper solution later? |
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https://www.fanatical.com/en/pick-and-mix/aspyr-pick-and-mix for any Linux Gamers or Mac Gamers |
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Where the proper solution in my opinion would be something involving getting rid of SQLAlchemy's ORM if not all of it, i.e. where we'd have the queries directly in the code instead of these .filter_by etc. constructs. |
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The nice thing about SQLAlchemy is support for all kinds of different databases, so it might still be worth keeping that part. |
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Just need to figure out how to add that clause. SQLAlchemy doesn't make this stuff easy. |
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RIP IRCCloud |
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looks like it |
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ivan: Oh, regarding the "does anyone use non-SQLite with wpull", I just remembered that I had to remove the "OR IGNORE" clause on INSERT queries. Those are SQLite-specific but used in the BaseSQLURLTable, not just the SQLite one. So I guess the answer is "noone" because it basically can't work. I believe "OR IGNORE" is unique to SQLite; other DBs use "ON CONFLICT IGNORE" and similar constructs instead. |
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Cf https://github.com/JustAnotherArchivist/wpull/commit/5dee4313d580590d4b6e77115c20db53eb666fc5 |
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"sqlite3.OperationalError: no query solution" :-| |
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ivan: I got the INDEXED BY solution working. There is a significant slowdown, but it's not as bad as before (duh). Based on 10 runs of a small test script, I'm seeing a ~40 % slowdown. 1000 checkouts/checkins take roughly 8.5 s with the old code and 11.9 s with the new one on my test setup with that huge DB I mentioned. |
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bakJAA: how badly do you need this priority thing anyway? |
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if it's any faster, maybe there could be a two-priority todo/todofirst? |
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also wow 8.5 s |
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does this go any faster without any fsync? |
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I hope this isn't _just_ for Sketch |
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bakJAA |
It would be extremely useful in ArchiveBot to defer loading less important resources later. For example, on a forum, we might want to delay member profiles or per-post URLs so that we can cover as much content as possible first (e.g. before the shutdown/deletion/whatever). Same for off-site links. |
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Now, we often run multiple jobs, one with very restrictive ignores to make sure it finishes in time, and another which runs wild. That's far from optimal though. |
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I assume it would be much faster without fsync, yeah. Let me test that. |
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marked: Not at all. It probably won't even be used for Sketch. This has been on my plate for 1.5 years, I implemented everything beginning of last year but never really polished it. |
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*nod* sounds reeeaallllyy useful |
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ivan: Hmm, interesting, the PRAGMA query isn't logged by SQLAlchemy. Maybe because it uses the connection.execute method directly? |
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But I don't see any performance difference whatsoever between having the PRAGMA applied or not. |
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The _apply_pragma_callback function does get called though. |
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I've used https://github.com/uber/pyflame to figure out why Python programs are slow but the new thing is https://github.com/benfred/py-spy |
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any idea if this has been submitted to archivebot, or considered as a project? https://www.reddit.com/r/Archiveteam/comments/b7avru/facepunch_studios_garrys_mod_rust_forums_are_very/ |
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filtered the archivebot dashboard crawls but didn't see anything (kind of expected given the post was a month ago) |
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picked up a second batch of flavorless loose leaf tea, gaawd. |
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so inconsistent. It's either fantastic or completely bland. Quality control is all over the place. |
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Specular: There's a channel #faceplant for that - I'm not sure if a project got off the ground though |
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ah, k |
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Specular (offline): I believe Fusl ran a grab-site crawl |
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i ran it through archivebot, not grab-site |
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ivan: Sure, I can do performance analysis, but the PRAGMA not taking effect probably has nothing to do with the performance on the Python side at least. |
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