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https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19828317 |
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marked |
(archive.is DNS) |
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ivan |
archive.is is not good |
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JAA |
Impressive that Mozilla hasn't managed to find a proper solution for their addons problem yet. You'd think they pay more attention to things that can break their entire ecosystem. |
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JAA |
(When I say "proper", I mean *not* "enable studies, send us all your data, and hope that you'll get the fix sometime soonish maybe"...) |
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Ryz |
Just saw this on https://old.reddit.com/r/datahoarders/comments/bjx9gm/the_remarkable_story_of_a_woman_who_preserved/ - https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/marion-stokes-television-news-archive |
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Ryz |
So much recorded loot ;-; |
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SirSackto |
google, search for "cbbc cartoon works" |
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SirSackto |
and "metallica" |
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VoynichCr |
this bot is good, is archiving all videos from LostMedia wikis https://archive.org/details/@mandy_defeater_of_death |
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JAA |
If anyone still has Firefox addon woes: https://storage.googleapis.com/moz-fx-normandy-prod-addons/extensions/hotfix-update-xpi-intermediate%40mozilla.com-1.0.2-signed.xpi should fix it. That's what's distributed through the studies, and you can install it without enabling studies. |
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JAA |
It simply adds a new intermediate certificate and forces a verification of the installed addons. |
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martinlig |
does it works also with tor? |
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schbirid |
oh wow, a day later i realise that addons were also disabled on firefox mobile |
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schbirid |
ffs mozilla |
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schbirid |
this is such a clusterfuck |
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t3 |
ATrescue: I really don't want Google's web browser dominance upset the balance of the openness of the web and its standards. |
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t3 |
They're already pushing things in their favor. 5e sad thing is that people don't realize it. |
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People use Google Chrome without considering alternatives. |
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t3: Me too. |
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ATrescue |
t3: I know, right. They own the surface web. |
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t3 |
I don't agree with Mozilla's direction anymore. I suppose many employees left Mozilla for the same reason. |
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t3: Especially Firefox Quantum. What a misstep. |
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ATrescue |
t3: If Quantum is really that secure, why not disable the Internet altogether?! |
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t3 |
I think Quantum had some positives. |
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ATrescue |
t3: Yes, Quantum is faster and had some new features. But legacy addons farewell. |
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t3 |
Right. |
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ATrescue |
t3: Opera did this with version 15. |
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t3 |
I'm more considered about how Google's dominance will hurt things rather than Firefox's legacy add-ons. |
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t3 |
concerned* |
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ATrescue |
t3: Agreed. But Mozilla really didn't have to mess up this bad. |
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t3 |
All I want is a browser that is fast and reliable. I just want it to have no user tracking, and to mitigate trackers, and would comprehensively block annoying ads. |
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ATrescue |
t3: ...and a browser where someone can remotely cripple it (Addon Scandal) is certainly not reliable. |
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t3 |
Right. A browser that is not crippled in any way. |
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t3 |
I honestly think JavaScript is unnecessarily powerful. |
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t3 |
It's the source of most of the security issues. |
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ATrescue |
t3: Modern websites rely on it extensively. |
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ATrescue |
I am now leaving the browser. Chat will likely close in background. If there is anything to tell me, https://archiveteam.org/index.php/User_Talk:ATrescue |
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JAA |
Dropping legacy addon support was necessary and fine. Not planning it properly and introducing the necessary APIs in time wasn't. There are many addons, including a bunch of very popular ones, that are still unportable to WebExtensions, e.g. many cookie manipulation tools. |
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JAA |
Figured out how to re-enable addons on Firefox 52 and up. The hotfix .xpi Mozilla released doesn't work there because an API is missing. Not sure from which version it does work. |
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JAA |
What their hotfix does is simply add a particular certificate to the trust store explicitly. That way, the expired intermediate cert doesn't matter. Or at least that's how I understand it. |
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JAA |
Of course, you can add that certificate manually as well. Here it is: https://transfer.notkiska.pw/YnCpg/signingca1addonsmozillaorg.crt (You can find it in the hotfix XPI linked earlier in the file experiments/skeleton/api.js.) |
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JAA |
No need to explicitly trust anything, it seems. |
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JAA |
To force Firefox to revalidate the addons, you can set app.update.lastUpdateTime.xpi-signature-verification on about:config to a value a few days in the past (anything above 24 hours should do I think; the value's in seconds, so just decrease one of the first few digits by one) and restart Firefox. |
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JAA |
I wonder if the "no need to explicitly trust anything" thing means that any CA in the world could in principle sign addons and have them accepted by Firefox. |