#archiveteam-ot 2019-05-27,Mon

↑back Search

Time Nickname Message
00:01 πŸ”— noirscape has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC 1.7.3 - https://znc.in)
00:01 πŸ”— icedice2 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)
00:01 πŸ”— icedice has joined #archiveteam-ot
00:04 πŸ”— noirscape has joined #archiveteam-ot
00:16 πŸ”— Zerote__ has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out)
01:51 πŸ”— DogsRNice has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
03:31 πŸ”— Flashfire Can move here Godane
03:32 πŸ”— godane ok every one i'm looking for old japanese gaming magazines that some guy puts images up on his blog
03:32 πŸ”— Flashfire Is he perhaps scanning his own magazines?
03:33 πŸ”— Flashfire I do have access to a tracker or 2 ivan may as well
03:33 πŸ”— godane i don't think so
03:33 πŸ”— godane example of one : https://retoge-mag.hatenablog.com/entry/2019/05/24/234339
03:34 πŸ”— godane the cover is the same to a pdf on retrocdn
03:34 πŸ”— Flashfire And it isnt anywhere in the metadata the source?
03:35 πŸ”— godane its not sourced on his blog
03:35 πŸ”— Flashfire I mean in the image metadata?
03:36 πŸ”— godane not likely cause images are way smaller then pdf image size
03:36 πŸ”— Flashfire I mean it could point you 1 step closer to the source
03:37 πŸ”— godane 20190329011634.jpg: JPEG image data, JFIF standard 1.01, resolution (DPI), density 96x96, segment length 16, Exif Standard: [TIFF image data, big-endian, direntries=4, xresolution=62, yresolution=70, resolutionunit=2, software=paint.net 4.0.21], baseline, precision 8, 436x640, components 3
03:37 πŸ”— godane different image metadata : https://cdn-ak.f.st-hatena.com/images/fotolife/M/MULTi88/20190329/20190329011634.jpg
03:38 πŸ”— godane the best that gives is paint.net software
03:38 πŸ”— Flashfire which now redirects to warrens paints which looks a dead end
03:40 πŸ”— godane here is the retrocdn source to that other magazine : https://retrocdn.net/File:DengekiMD_JP_01.pdf
03:40 πŸ”— godane you can tell that the wear of the magazine cover is the same
03:42 πŸ”— godane the closest possible source for that first post in #archivebot maybe this : https://www.suruga-ya.jp/product/detail/ZNON6348
03:42 πŸ”— godane but that only works to me if there some of digital online archive somewhere on that site
03:42 πŸ”— Flashfire I usually try index of "Whatever I am looking for"
03:45 πŸ”— ealgase someone who's anti-Archive Team
03:45 πŸ”— ealgase "if archive team archived the entirety of google plus, it would be a scandal."
03:45 πŸ”— Flashfire Where is this quoted from?
03:45 πŸ”— Flashfire Shall we tell them how much we got lol
03:47 πŸ”— ealgase https://pleroma.site/objects/f2edcc79-d6ba-4fca-9d08-d7101a81f092
03:47 πŸ”— ealgase I mentioned to them that we did
03:48 πŸ”— Flashfire Oh lord lol
03:56 πŸ”— Flashfire I shouldnt brigade should I?
03:57 πŸ”— ealgase probably not
03:57 πŸ”— ealgase but I can see you already did
03:57 πŸ”— ealgase so thanks :)
03:58 πŸ”— Flashfire I think this was well written
03:58 πŸ”— ealgase yep, it was
03:58 πŸ”— ealgase but you can expect your account there to be banned
03:59 πŸ”— ealgase (as that person is the instance owner)
03:59 πŸ”— Flashfire Is ok. Life goes on
03:59 πŸ”— Flashfire QUICK ARCHIVE ALL THE STUPID SHIT I SAID THERE?
04:08 πŸ”— ealgase lmao this thread is a total trainwreck
04:11 πŸ”— Flashfire Isnt that every social media thread?
04:11 πŸ”— ealgase true
04:11 πŸ”— ealgase "personally i am 100% convinced to never ever ship Static FE in Pleroma because of this. Static FE is as good as cancelled."
04:17 πŸ”— godane Flashfire: still can't get find them using index of
04:17 πŸ”— Flashfire Bugger I might look at some of the trackers
04:17 πŸ”— godane what trackers do you look at for japanese magazines
04:27 πŸ”— Flashfire ealgase I am leaving that thread alone now I tried
04:27 πŸ”— ealgase yeah lol, thanks for the support
04:28 πŸ”— Flashfire I tried to be polite
04:28 πŸ”— hook54321 Perhaps we should stop talking to those people
04:28 πŸ”— godane Flashfire: what trackers do you have in mind?
04:28 πŸ”— Flashfire Yes
04:28 πŸ”— hook54321 Nothing good will come of this
04:28 πŸ”— godane piratebay doesn't like japanese characters
04:28 πŸ”— Flashfire I have anonymouse or something like that
04:30 πŸ”— Flashfire Hook54321 sorry about possibly making things worse I feel like I am going to be getting a reaming because of this later
05:04 πŸ”— Despatche has quit IRC (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer)
05:11 πŸ”— godane1 has joined #archiveteam-ot
05:11 πŸ”— godane1 has quit IRC (Client Quit)
05:15 πŸ”— godane has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 615 seconds)
05:18 πŸ”— godane has joined #archiveteam-ot
05:34 πŸ”— dhyan_nat has joined #archiveteam-ot
06:02 πŸ”— ColdIce has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)
06:02 πŸ”— ColdIce has joined #archiveteam-ot
06:31 πŸ”— Zerote__ has joined #archiveteam-ot
07:38 πŸ”— Zerote__ has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out)
07:49 πŸ”— icedice2 has joined #archiveteam-ot
07:52 πŸ”— icedice has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
07:53 πŸ”— icedice has joined #archiveteam-ot
07:56 πŸ”— Zerote__ has joined #archiveteam-ot
07:57 πŸ”— icedice2 has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out)
08:24 πŸ”— icedice has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
08:27 πŸ”— icedice has joined #archiveteam-ot
08:50 πŸ”— icedice has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)
09:01 πŸ”— Despatche has joined #archiveteam-ot
09:40 πŸ”— Fusl β€œwhat about the guy who hasn’t touched his account in 5 years?”
09:40 πŸ”— Fusl that guy especially doesn’t want it archived.
09:40 πŸ”— Fusl lets assume someone posted stuff publicly
09:40 πŸ”— Fusl but maybe something terrible happened
09:40 πŸ”— Fusl maybe that person died
09:40 πŸ”— Fusl and he wants his stuff archived
09:41 πŸ”— Fusl how should he consent to it
09:41 πŸ”— Fusl a living person can opt out
09:41 πŸ”— Fusl but a dead person can't opt in
09:41 πŸ”— Flashfire i mean if people are using that info to bully others maybe we should take a better look at the asshole doing the bullying rather than try and attack the archivists trying to do a good thing
09:42 πŸ”— Fusl also, something else to think about at this point
09:42 πŸ”— Fusl i have archived a total of 13 million urls on a storage at home, simply by browsing through the web
09:42 πŸ”— eientei95 [21:40:35] <Fusl> maybe that person died
09:42 πŸ”— Fusl its not in warc format though but its in a format that can be converted into warc
09:42 πŸ”— eientei95 See: Thing with Robin William's twitter account
09:44 πŸ”— Fusl the urls are actively fed through my browser to a queue system that pulls in that stuff i surf to and that also pulls in all other requests like images/media, xhr, websocket with timing information, etc.
09:44 πŸ”— Fusl its at this point public information
09:44 πŸ”— eientei95 Fusl: I have found a video of the people in that thread: https://twitter.com/nocontxtmario/status/1085273506303131649
09:44 πŸ”— Flashfire lol
09:45 πŸ”— Fusl ignore the problem and it goes away
09:46 πŸ”— Fusl right?
09:46 πŸ”— Flashfire I set up an alert for whenever that page changes
10:22 πŸ”— Fusl to add to the fire, there are things way worse than archiving public content without opt-in
10:25 πŸ”— Fusl in austria, if your parents decided that you belong to a specific religion, when you're 18 years old, you have to pay 1.35% of your income to the local church, every year
10:26 πŸ”— Flashfire ...............................
10:26 πŸ”— Flashfire You are fucking kidding me
10:26 πŸ”— Fusl you can opt out of that very easily though but they will knock on your door every few weeks again to ask if you wouldnt be interested in paying again
10:27 πŸ”— Fusl and to make matters worse
10:27 πŸ”— Fusl after you opt out
10:27 πŸ”— Fusl and then move to another town
10:27 πŸ”— Fusl you have to opt out again
10:27 πŸ”— Fusl because moving towns apparently automatically is an opt in to paying that shit again
10:48 πŸ”— Zerote_ has joined #archiveteam-ot
10:50 πŸ”— Zerote__ has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out)
10:57 πŸ”— BlueMax has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
11:08 πŸ”— wp494 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
11:09 πŸ”— wp494 has joined #archiveteam-ot
11:10 πŸ”— deevious has joined #archiveteam-ot
12:26 πŸ”— deevious has quit IRC (Quit: deevious)
14:21 πŸ”— JAA Fusl: Oh, that sounds like an interesting setup. I'd love to know more about it.
14:22 πŸ”— Fusl yeah, id love to know more as well about how the churches make so much money
14:22 πŸ”— JAA Heh, I was talking about your personal archival system.
14:23 πŸ”— Fusl oh
14:23 πŸ”— Fusl trust me, you dont want to know about that
14:26 πŸ”— JAA You bet I do. Especially the WebSocket part.
14:31 πŸ”— Fusl heh, that one is the worst of them. all requests are essentially force proxied to a node.js server that initiates the connection to upstream and captures the websocket data with exact unix timestamp in microseconds resolution into a .ndjson file per stream. the metadata of the stream itself is recorded in a mysql database prior to that so that the uuid of the .ndjson file can be matched to a host, port,
14:31 πŸ”— Fusl timestamp, etc.
14:33 πŸ”— Fusl why it is the worst of them? because i cant dedupe the data inside it, not even block or variable offset deduplication, thats especially annoying because speedtest.net by now uses websockets with random data >_<
14:35 πŸ”— JAA Hah, nice. Do you have any setup for playback?
14:35 πŸ”— Fusl lol nope
14:36 πŸ”— JAA Right
14:36 πŸ”— Fusl i extract the data manually as i need it
14:41 πŸ”— Zerote_ has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out)
14:50 πŸ”— JAA Sieht so aus als habe die Opposition in Γ–sterreich Kurzen Prozess gemacht. ;-)
14:55 πŸ”— JAA Fusl: How do you deal with TLS errors? I guess they're handled in the proxy and you just see a generic error in the browser?
14:56 πŸ”— Fusl yeah, they are handled on the proxy and the proxy just terminates the tcp connection non-gracefully by dropping the connection and therefore sending a tcp rst packet
15:10 πŸ”— Zerote_ has joined #archiveteam-ot
15:14 πŸ”— m007a83_ has joined #archiveteam-ot
15:14 πŸ”— m007a83_ has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
15:19 πŸ”— m007a83 has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out)
16:07 πŸ”— kiska ... I found my ISP's discord support server, I wonder how often I'll be using it
16:11 πŸ”— ealgase Which ISP?
16:15 πŸ”— kiska myrepublic ANZ
16:16 πŸ”— kiska Would you like an invite?
16:16 πŸ”— ealgase sure, sounds interesting
16:16 πŸ”— kiska Here ya go: https://discord.gg/eP4ycUV
16:18 πŸ”— ealgase lol, can't join since I'm not from australia
16:18 πŸ”— ealgase still cool that your ISP does community outreach
16:18 πŸ”— ealgase mine is awful
16:19 πŸ”— kiska I think, if I used the discord, I'll have like 30 tickets created by now xD
16:22 πŸ”— kiska I literally looked at this months packet loss stats, and I see https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568256396055937027/582602575979872303/unknown.png
16:22 πŸ”— kiska Which I just opened a ticket for xD
16:26 πŸ”— JAA Hey, it didn't go over 100 %, so it can't be that bad...
16:34 πŸ”— m007a83 has joined #archiveteam-ot
16:35 πŸ”— NickN00b has joined #archiveteam-ot
16:54 πŸ”— Fusl kiska: needs more smokeping
17:19 πŸ”— schbirid has joined #archiveteam-ot
17:57 πŸ”— Odd0002_ has joined #archiveteam-ot
18:03 πŸ”— Odd0002 has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out)
18:03 πŸ”— Odd0002_ is now known as Odd0002
19:17 πŸ”— horkermon has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
19:18 πŸ”— deathy has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
19:18 πŸ”— pnJay has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
19:28 πŸ”— Fusl_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 506 seconds)
19:30 πŸ”— diggan has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 614 seconds)
19:31 πŸ”— DrasticAc has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
19:40 πŸ”— pnJay has joined #archiveteam-ot
19:42 πŸ”— DrasticAc has joined #archiveteam-ot
19:43 πŸ”— Fusl_ has joined #archiveteam-ot
19:43 πŸ”— deathy has joined #archiveteam-ot
19:43 πŸ”— Fusl sets mode: +o Fusl_
19:44 πŸ”— diggan has joined #archiveteam-ot
19:45 πŸ”— horkermon has joined #archiveteam-ot
20:43 πŸ”— Stilettoo has joined #archiveteam-ot
20:45 πŸ”— Stiletto has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out)
20:54 πŸ”— amelia386 has joined #archiveteam-ot
22:28 πŸ”— dhyan_nat has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out)
22:58 πŸ”— BlueMax has joined #archiveteam-ot
23:49 πŸ”— icedice has joined #archiveteam-ot
23:52 πŸ”— markedL has quit IRC (The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat)
23:52 πŸ”— asdf0101 has quit IRC (The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat)
23:53 πŸ”— markedL has joined #archiveteam-ot
23:53 πŸ”— asdf0101 has joined #archiveteam-ot

irclogger-viewer