#archiveteam-ot 2019-05-31,Fri

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00:06 πŸ”— Stiletto seen this mentioned here before as an alternative to the Discord client, looks like they are working hard on adding Slack support too. Closed-source but it's "not build on top of web browser technology": https://cancel.fm/ripcord
00:07 πŸ”— Flashfire Using third party clients is an easy way to get your account banned or closed with a company like discord
00:10 πŸ”— JAA Avoid Discord completely like the plague it is.
00:10 πŸ”— Flashfire Are there open source alternatives that tech retards can pick up easily that isnt IRC?
00:14 πŸ”— Igloo The phone.
00:15 πŸ”— Flashfire I cant afford to be calling and texting to america and the rest of the world from australia on my phone
01:44 πŸ”— JAA Rebooting a remote machine that I have no access to except via SSH always causes sweaty palms.
01:45 πŸ”— JAA Especially so after network reconfiguration. And it looks like I fucked it up.
01:47 πŸ”— JAA Nevermind, just took longer than expected to come back up.
01:47 πŸ”— JAA Hooray for no more NetworkManager.
01:48 πŸ”— kiska JAA: You should list the packages for server5.kiska.pw:2213 xD
01:49 πŸ”— JAA kiska: Not my problem. :-P
01:49 πŸ”— JAA I keep my servers clean. Do what you must on yours, as long as I never ever have to touch it.
01:50 πŸ”— JAA :-)
01:50 πŸ”— JAA apt remove --purge gnome* <3
01:51 πŸ”— kiska Yeah about that... I'd lose my ruby(aka tracker) development machine xD
01:51 πŸ”— Flashfire ewwww GNOME and I say that with my last 2 laptop OS being MacOS and Windows 10 now
01:53 πŸ”— JAA No thanks, I don't need rhythmbox on this machine either. Goddammit.
01:55 πŸ”— JAA Oh right, apt remove --purge libgtk-3-0 is pretty useful as well.
01:59 πŸ”— kiska Looks like Trent installed desktop ubuntu on the machine
01:59 πŸ”— JAA Debian*, but yeah.
02:01 πŸ”— JAA While we're ranting about annoying software, I'll add pulseaudio to that list.
02:06 πŸ”— t3 icedice: Thanks for the info.
02:06 πŸ”— t3 ivan: So what is your take on the HP EliteBook?
02:08 πŸ”— t3 I don't think I want to wait for more than 3 to 6 months.
02:08 πŸ”— t3 But I'm always on the fence on investing too much for a laptop that will quickly become outdated.
02:08 πŸ”— JAA t3: Not ivan, but I have an (oooold) EliteBook and it's pretty nice. The one I have is clunky but very robust compared to many other laptops. Still running fine after almost 10 years.
02:09 πŸ”— t3 Seeing as things are about to become more interesting as AMD and their partners are making a large push.
02:10 πŸ”— t3 JAA: Why not ican?
02:10 πŸ”— t3 I mean ivan.
02:10 πŸ”— JAA Well, I'm not ivan, and you addresed him directly.
02:10 πŸ”— JAA addressed*
02:11 πŸ”— t3 Oh.
02:11 πŸ”— t3 I've heard some good things about HP notebooks recently.
02:12 πŸ”— JAA But my comment is probably pretty useless since you're looking for a modern machine I guess. They used to be good at least.
02:16 πŸ”— JAA (I have zero experience with more recent models than mine.)
02:23 πŸ”— t3 Okay. Thanks for the input, though.
02:23 πŸ”— t3 ?
02:25 πŸ”— t3 I'm starting to gravitate towards getting a cheaper more portable laptop for on-the-go stuff, and building a desktop tower or rack server to connect to remotely.
02:26 πŸ”— t3 Either that, or I go for a less portable laptop, but with expandable memory and storage. However, then I would like a higher resolution display for better productivity.
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03:06 πŸ”— t3 ivan: What price point should I aim for an HP Elitebook?
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03:45 πŸ”— icedice t3: This might come in handy: https://camelcamelcamel.com/
03:48 πŸ”— icedice ASUS ZenBook is probably worth looking into btw. A few years ago when I was looking at laptops it topped almost every top 10 list. Good build quality, aluminum instead of plastic, lightweight, and it usually comes without any bloatware shoved in.
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04:06 πŸ”— t3 icedice: Thanks. I will use that.
04:07 πŸ”— icedice Happy to help ^^
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05:54 πŸ”— t3 Thanks. I'm going to go for a budget of $1600 USD.
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18:36 πŸ”— JAA EFnet: where people lose ops because their hostname changes due to rDNS failing after a server outage.
18:37 πŸ”— Kaz I miss rizon services
18:38 πŸ”— t3 JAA: Okay. Thanks.
18:44 πŸ”— ivan t3: doubt you need to go up to $1600 for the machine unless you need a recent cpu or 4 cores or discrete gpu
18:44 πŸ”— ivan get a ~2017 model and spend the rest on 2TB nvme and 32GB RAM or whatever else you need
18:44 πŸ”— t3 ivan: Oh okay.
18:45 πŸ”— ivan the way to buy from ebay is to buy only from people with real photos and to inspect the photos very carefully
18:46 πŸ”— ivan signs of damage or wear typically imply more damage and wear elsewhere
18:54 πŸ”— ivan I guess the other reason to pay $1600 is if you want a warranty that lasts longer than the return period
18:54 πŸ”— ivan but depending on what you buy it may actually have a year of warranty left
18:55 πŸ”— ivan or more, depending on when the OEM shipped it out new
19:07 πŸ”— t3 Oh. I'm new to eBay. It's my first time using it.
19:21 πŸ”— t3 Does Linux have good support for PCIe NVMe storage?
19:21 πŸ”— Fusl yes
19:21 πŸ”— t3 There the kernels mature now? Okay.
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22:48 πŸ”— t3 ivan: Hey there. Can I private message you?
22:53 πŸ”— ivan yes
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23:49 πŸ”— hook54321 Arctic: lengthy discussion is taken outside of #archiveteam
23:49 πŸ”— Kaz ^
23:49 πŸ”— Kaz and it's offtopic for archiveteam because we're not grabbing it
23:49 πŸ”— Arctic Okay.
23:50 πŸ”— Arctic So why aren’t we archiving the fediverse anymore?
23:51 πŸ”— hook54321 It went horribly wrong
23:51 πŸ”— Kaz fedi-people really don't like being archived
23:52 πŸ”— Arctic Threatened to sue or something?
23:52 πŸ”— JAA There were people calling for us to be shot.
23:52 πŸ”— Arctic Oh.
23:52 πŸ”— hook54321 still are quite a few unfortunately
23:52 πŸ”— Arctic Why?
23:54 πŸ”— Kaz Because they seem to believe they have some ability to wipe anything they've ever posted/uploaded to the internet because it's 'theirs'
23:54 πŸ”— Kaz and they were reminded that that's not quite how it works
23:55 πŸ”— Kaz and to some extent, other than knowing that these communities exist, there's not really anything of note/worth saving
23:55 πŸ”— Arctic Alright.
23:55 πŸ”— Arctic Sounds like quite a mess.
23:57 πŸ”— retnl oh
23:58 πŸ”— retnl why did this happen so suddenly?
23:59 πŸ”— Arctic Crazies on the internet.
23:59 πŸ”— Arctic What do you expect?
23:59 πŸ”— JAA With these kind of things, usually either nothing happens at all (except a few people in a community being pissed perhaps) or everything blows up within milliseconds.
23:59 πŸ”— hook54321 Earlier this month a user from an instance that was closing requested that that instance be grabbed, we weren't aware of the kind of instance that it was.

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