[00:06] seen this mentioned here before as an alternative to the Discord client, looks like they are working hard on adding Slack support too. Closed-source but it's "not build on top of web browser technology": https://cancel.fm/ripcord [00:07] Using third party clients is an easy way to get your account banned or closed with a company like discord [00:10] Avoid Discord completely like the plague it is. [00:10] Are there open source alternatives that tech retards can pick up easily that isnt IRC? [00:14] The phone. [00:15] I cant afford to be calling and texting to america and the rest of the world from australia on my phone [01:44] Rebooting a remote machine that I have no access to except via SSH always causes sweaty palms. [01:45] Especially so after network reconfiguration. And it looks like I fucked it up. [01:47] Nevermind, just took longer than expected to come back up. [01:47] Hooray for no more NetworkManager. [01:48] JAA: You should list the packages for server5.kiska.pw:2213 xD [01:49] kiska: Not my problem. :-P [01:49] I keep my servers clean. Do what you must on yours, as long as I never ever have to touch it. [01:50] :-) [01:50] apt remove --purge gnome* <3 [01:51] Yeah about that... I'd lose my ruby(aka tracker) development machine xD [01:51] ewwww GNOME and I say that with my last 2 laptop OS being MacOS and Windows 10 now [01:53] No thanks, I don't need rhythmbox on this machine either. Goddammit. [01:55] Oh right, apt remove --purge libgtk-3-0 is pretty useful as well. [01:59] Looks like Trent installed desktop ubuntu on the machine [01:59] Debian*, but yeah. [02:01] While we're ranting about annoying software, I'll add pulseaudio to that list. [02:06] icedice: Thanks for the info. [02:06] ivan: So what is your take on the HP EliteBook? [02:08] I don't think I want to wait for more than 3 to 6 months. [02:08] But I'm always on the fence on investing too much for a laptop that will quickly become outdated. [02:08] t3: Not ivan, but I have an (oooold) EliteBook and it's pretty nice. The one I have is clunky but very robust compared to many other laptops. Still running fine after almost 10 years. [02:09] Seeing as things are about to become more interesting as AMD and their partners are making a large push. [02:10] JAA: Why not ican? [02:10] I mean ivan. [02:10] Well, I'm not ivan, and you addresed him directly. [02:10] addressed* [02:11] Oh. [02:11] I've heard some good things about HP notebooks recently. [02:12] But my comment is probably pretty useless since you're looking for a modern machine I guess. They used to be good at least. [02:16] (I have zero experience with more recent models than mine.) [02:23] Okay. Thanks for the input, though. [02:23] ? [02:25] I'm starting to gravitate towards getting a cheaper more portable laptop for on-the-go stuff, and building a desktop tower or rack server to connect to remotely. [02:26] Either that, or I go for a less portable laptop, but with expandable memory and storage. However, then I would like a higher resolution display for better productivity. [02:29] *** BlueMax has joined #archiveteam-ot [02:56] *** killsushi has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [03:06] ivan: What price point should I aim for an HP Elitebook? [03:11] *** godane has joined #archiveteam-ot [03:42] *** odemg has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [03:45] t3: This might come in handy: https://camelcamelcamel.com/ [03:48] ASUS ZenBook is probably worth looking into btw. A few years ago when I was looking at laptops it topped almost every top 10 list. Good build quality, aluminum instead of plastic, lightweight, and it usually comes without any bloatware shoved in. [03:55] *** odemg has joined #archiveteam-ot [04:00] *** w00dsman has joined #archiveteam-ot [04:06] icedice: Thanks. I will use that. [04:07] Happy to help ^^ [04:24] *** icedice has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [05:09] *** dhyan_nat has joined #archiveteam-ot [05:11] *** wp494 has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [05:12] *** wp494 has joined #archiveteam-ot [05:54] Thanks. I'm going to go for a budget of $1600 USD. [05:57] *** dhyan_nat has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[18:37] I miss rizon services [18:38] JAA: Okay. Thanks. [18:44] t3: doubt you need to go up to $1600 for the machine unless you need a recent cpu or 4 cores or discrete gpu [18:44] get a ~2017 model and spend the rest on 2TB nvme and 32GB RAM or whatever else you need [18:44] ivan: Oh okay. [18:45] the way to buy from ebay is to buy only from people with real photos and to inspect the photos very carefully [18:46] signs of damage or wear typically imply more damage and wear elsewhere [18:54] I guess the other reason to pay $1600 is if you want a warranty that lasts longer than the return period [18:54] but depending on what you buy it may actually have a year of warranty left [18:55] or more, depending on when the OEM shipped it out new [19:07] Oh. I'm new to eBay. It's my first time using it. [19:21] Does Linux have good support for PCIe NVMe storage? [19:21] yes [19:21] There the kernels mature now? Okay. 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[22:53] yes [22:56] *** DogsRNice has joined #archiveteam-ot [23:01] *** Hani111 has joined #archiveteam-ot [23:06] *** Hani111 has quit IRC (Client Quit) [23:10] *** wp494 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [23:10] *** Hani has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 615 seconds) [23:10] *** Hani111 has joined #archiveteam-ot [23:10] *** Hani111 is now known as Hani [23:12] *** wp494 has joined #archiveteam-ot [23:25] *** BlueMax has joined #archiveteam-ot [23:43] *** retnl has joined #archiveteam-ot [23:48] *** Arctic has joined #archiveteam-ot [23:49] Arctic: lengthy discussion is taken outside of #archiveteam [23:49] ^ [23:49] and it's offtopic for archiveteam because we're not grabbing it [23:49] Okay. [23:50] So why aren’t we archiving the fediverse anymore? [23:51] It went horribly wrong [23:51] fedi-people really don't like being archived [23:52] Threatened to sue or something? [23:52] There were people calling for us to be shot. [23:52] Oh. [23:52] still are quite a few unfortunately [23:52] Why? [23:54] Because they seem to believe they have some ability to wipe anything they've ever posted/uploaded to the internet because it's 'theirs' [23:54] and they were reminded that that's not quite how it works [23:55] and to some extent, other than knowing that these communities exist, there's not really anything of note/worth saving [23:55] Alright. [23:55] Sounds like quite a mess. [23:57] oh [23:58] why did this happen so suddenly? [23:59] Crazies on the internet. [23:59] What do you expect? [23:59] With these kind of things, usually either nothing happens at all (except a few people in a community being pissed perhaps) or everything blows up within milliseconds. [23:59] Earlier this month a user from an instance that was closing requested that that instance be grabbed, we weren't aware of the kind of instance that it was.