#archiveteam-ot 2019-06-24,Mon

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09:59 πŸ”— Fusl_ wifi AP (ASUS RT-AC66U) broke today, in need of a new 5GHz AP. any recommendations? requirements: wall or ceiling mountable, 802.1x radius authentication, should have: perfect openwrt compatibility but not required
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12:04 πŸ”— Fusl Kaz: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20262316
12:04 πŸ”— Fusl discord is now fully down for me from here as well
12:05 πŸ”— Fusl good ol irc largely unaffected by this :D
12:05 πŸ”— Fusl oh, Kaz uses irccloud, they wont be able to see that message :(
12:05 πŸ”— Kaz Yeah just dropped
12:05 πŸ”— Kaz Good route to cloud flare on mobile it seems
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12:07 πŸ”— Fusl neat
12:07 πŸ”— kurt we'll do this for now..
12:08 πŸ”— kurt I may end up just dropping irccloud, the only benefit it gives me is notifications.. could easily spin back back into znc
12:11 πŸ”— Fusl i just have weechat on a vultr server connect to efnet directly and then also have that connect to my irccloud and irccloud connect to efnet
12:11 πŸ”— Fusl :D
12:11 πŸ”— Fusl for anyone else in here wondering why your internet does not work: https://twitter.com/OhNoItsFusl/status/1143117619106652160
12:13 πŸ”— Fusl jusy sayin', this looks totally fine http://xor.meo.ws/c2b03f79/6a8c/4df8/a523/0a7adc93b974.png
12:14 πŸ”— kurt https://status.aws.amazon.com/
12:14 πŸ”— kurt shouldn't be affecting between regions should it? Unless just an burning-hot link somewhere?
12:16 πŸ”— Fusl i cant talk about the technology we use to interconnect regions but yes, it may be affected
12:17 πŸ”— kurt aye, didn't expect you to, assumed that's really the only thing it could be unless someone's gone ahead and announced some more routes
12:17 πŸ”— kurt https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20262618
12:19 πŸ”— Fusl well, technically they leak the route towards verizon, verizon isnt doing and filtering on that and just accept them
12:20 πŸ”— Fusl otoh, 33154 leaks the route towards 396531
12:24 πŸ”— kurt yeah, jgc seems to be blaming verizon
12:26 πŸ”— Fusl well, verizon is a peering provider for me
12:26 πŸ”— Fusl they /are/ allowed to route traffic for me
12:27 πŸ”— Fusl there are always two bad parties
12:27 πŸ”— Fusl 1. the one leaking the route
12:27 πŸ”— Fusl 2. the one accepting the leaked route due to no filtering
12:27 πŸ”— Fusl verizon is 2 in that case, ATI is 1
12:27 πŸ”— kurt nod
12:28 πŸ”— Kaz could be back..
12:28 πŸ”— Kaz sets mode: +o kurt
12:30 πŸ”— Fusl yes, routes have disappeared since 2019-06-24T12:27:53+00:00.txt
12:32 πŸ”— Kaz heh, could you be any more vague? https://status.discordapp.com/incidents/2gztsrksff0v
12:34 πŸ”— Fusl lol
12:34 πŸ”— Fusl "general internet outage"
12:34 πŸ”— Fusl === "fire"
12:34 πŸ”— Fusl also
12:34 πŸ”— Fusl cloudflare:
12:34 πŸ”— Fusl "a Verizon downstream BGP customer is leaking the full table, and some more specific from us and many other providers. "
12:35 πŸ”— Kaz can you see what else they're leaking? References to Google + Amazon but I have no view into anything rn
12:35 πŸ”— Fusl yeah, one sec
12:36 πŸ”— Fusl i have a full table dump made every 5 seconds
12:37 πŸ”— Fusl here's the full AS list for prefixes they have leaked: http://xor.meo.ws/3phlIi7qIDIZIsS7RKrkF6eaF3TOAbTt.txt
12:37 πŸ”— Fusl ergh
12:37 πŸ”— Kaz +\n
12:37 πŸ”— Fusl http://xor.meo.ws/s3IALC3Y4uHhKZCVTWwCPyElelqP7RXM.txt
12:37 πŸ”— Fusl here you go
12:39 πŸ”— Kaz gdamn
12:42 πŸ”— eientei95 tfw you move to OpenNIC DNS and then suddenly pages start loading hella quicker
12:48 πŸ”— Fusl Kaz: https://twitter.com/jdcguy/status/1143138757496987650
12:48 πŸ”— Fusl eientei95: OF COURSE THEY DO
12:53 πŸ”— Kaz Fusl: nice
12:53 πŸ”— Kaz hadn't clocked the edit yet
12:53 πŸ”— Fusl point being
12:53 πŸ”— Fusl i am a fucking netops engineer for a reason
12:54 πŸ”— Fusl i /can/ clearly see through the fog of bgp
12:54 πŸ”— eientei95 But can you see through the fog of war?
12:54 πŸ”— Fionera teach me senpai
12:55 πŸ”— Kaz I did find it weird considering y'know.. data trumps opinion
12:55 πŸ”— Fusl eientei95: i can see through the fog of bgp war
12:55 πŸ”— Kaz 'this fucknugget AS is announcing prefixes'
12:55 πŸ”— Kaz 'no
12:55 πŸ”— Kaz 'yes'
12:56 πŸ”— eientei95 ack
12:56 πŸ”— Fusl Kaz: yeah, pretty much that
12:56 πŸ”— Fionera I mean didnt they hear of this fancy new technology called filters?
12:56 πŸ”— Kaz s/new/old
12:56 πŸ”— eientei95 s/old/hella old
12:57 πŸ”— Fusl Fionera: RPKI
12:57 πŸ”— Fusl and others
12:57 πŸ”— Fusl and friends
12:57 πŸ”— Fusl all too new for the internet
12:57 πŸ”— Fusl IPv6?
12:57 πŸ”— Fusl waaaaaaaaaay too new
12:58 πŸ”— Fionera whats this v6? Isnt X the new shit?
13:00 πŸ”— Fusl IPvX? HELL no.
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13:01 πŸ”— Fionera IPX <- the real shit
13:02 πŸ”— Fusl oh lol
13:03 πŸ”— Fusl http://xor.meo.ws/9d6475be/5017/4405/bff1/9784ed4308a1.png awwwwww
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13:18 πŸ”— Fusl i wonder how much of archivebot crawls were affected by this :$
13:22 πŸ”— Fusl lol i can access my discord account through my corp VPN
13:22 πŸ”— Fusl everyone is offline
13:22 πŸ”— Fionera lol
13:22 πŸ”— Fionera do they have a proper routing and dns setup?
13:23 πŸ”— Fusl i dunno Β―\_(ツ)_/Β―
13:27 πŸ”— * Fionera wants to go home, where proper internet and working routes are
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13:39 πŸ”— JAA Fusl: How could that be detected?
13:39 πŸ”— Fusl_ JAA: hm?
13:40 πŸ”— JAA "how much of archivebot crawls were affected by this"
13:41 πŸ”— Fusl_ check the graph i pasted in the abot channel
13:41 πŸ”— JAA Oh
13:42 πŸ”— JAA :-|
13:43 πŸ”— Fusl_ JAA: rather ":)", they were largely unaffected by this
13:43 πŸ”— JAA When did this start?
13:43 πŸ”— JAA Yeah, just noticed the time axis.
13:54 πŸ”— JAA Oh hey, you learn something new every day: "The most surefire way to know if a site is behind Cloudflare (orange cloud is on) is by hitting /cdn-cgi/trace (e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/cdn-cgi/trace) which is the debug output from Cloudflare’s HTTP server. There’s no way to my knowledge that route can be disabled or overriden." Nice. (From https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20262816 )
13:56 πŸ”— Fusl heh, we're using /cdn-cgi/trace, /cdn-cgi/ping and similar endpoints in our internal peering solutions
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16:18 πŸ”— kiska1 Fusl: Updating that instance shortly, its still on v2.7.1
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16:32 πŸ”— kiska Fusl: identd should be running now xD
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18:17 πŸ”— ola_norsk By any chance, is archivebot able to snag an entire Facebook group? e.g ( https://www.facebook.com/groups/AmosPro )
18:19 πŸ”— Fusl JAA: snscrape idea? ^
18:22 πŸ”— ola_norsk It's in relation to Francois Lionet recently starting up AMOS 2 ( http://amos2.tech/ , which i've already grab-sited ) .. I've done a bit of their facebook group with webrecorder.io , but Facebook is a f*cking biatch..
18:23 πŸ”— Fusl also, #archivebot
18:24 πŸ”— JAA No, ArchiveBot won't be able to grab it. chromebot might.
18:24 πŸ”— JAA And yeah, it has been on my list for snscrape for a while.
18:27 πŸ”— ola_norsk i don't know how to operate chromebot
18:31 πŸ”— ola_norsk btw, if someone have fond memories of AMOS / STOS in their Amiga or Atari ST, here's Francois Lionet's patreon if someone would like to support his work financially https://www.patreon.com/francoislionet
18:33 πŸ”— ola_norsk "A modern AMOS 3D with WebGL is of-course in the plans, as well other fantastic things with the Friend platform and Friend Network." ... oooh, that would be awesome :D
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19:08 πŸ”— Stiletto there's a guy I've run across online who can back up a Facebook group and output as SQL+files. However he wants 1. to charge for it and 2. to be granted access to the group
19:08 πŸ”— Stiletto so something better would be cool
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19:44 πŸ”— t3 Can I be invited to #fedisperse?
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20:38 πŸ”— ola_norsk Me having watched Francois Lionet patreon video; I noticed he talked about the idea of "amos basicS" , where it seems to me he's been in contact with the author of Blitz Basic / GAF .. ( https://youtu.be/kZ6YeX3dCm8?t=321 )
20:39 πŸ”— ola_norsk What it appears to me he's talking about, is basically a form of JsMESS... or ?
20:40 πŸ”— ola_norsk albeit, he's focusing on BASIC languages
20:40 πŸ”— ola_norsk maybe i'm misunderstanding what JSMESS is..
20:48 πŸ”— ola_norsk It appears to me he's talking about "on-the-fly" re-compilation or some sort .. And isn't that what JSMESS is pretty much?
20:48 πŸ”— ola_norsk (just without the on-the-fly part?)
20:54 πŸ”— ola_norsk SketchCow: you're fairly into the JSMESS development thingy right? Might i msg you the dude's email? .. Because it wouldn't surprise me if he's unaware of the existance of JSMESS; And it would be a shame if he's doing reinvention of some wheel he could use
20:57 πŸ”— ola_norsk forgive if it shouldn't have
20:59 πŸ”— ola_norsk He just might become a very valuable contributor on the JSMESS project for all i know
21:00 πŸ”— ola_norsk It just appears to me he's not very savvy on modern tech, but ultra-savvo on retro-tech
21:03 πŸ”— ola_norsk e.g, when he's describing the 'folder sharing' thingy, that sounds to me to be the BitTorrent folder-share that was a while back..
21:04 πŸ”— ola_norsk anyone remember the name of that btw?
21:04 πŸ”— ola_norsk it was BitTorrent's own project
21:05 πŸ”— ola_norsk (i think)
21:06 πŸ”— ola_norsk some directory-sharing thingy, using BitTorrent and share-link/invites
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21:29 πŸ”— JAA BitTorrent Sync?
21:30 πŸ”— JAA Nowadays known as Resilio
23:02 πŸ”— Flashfire kiska I see that the lounge updated
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