#archiveteam-ot 2019-09-03,Tue

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00:52 🔗 Raccoon what do we do with these youtube live videos out of the Bahamas when the vlographer gets swalled by the sea?
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05:38 🔗 kiska Igloo: probably my server that was just brought up
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09:17 🔗 JAA Correct.
09:19 🔗 JAA Soo, I have a weird issue with BIND on that machine now (after nuking systemd-resolved and some other stuff):
09:19 🔗 JAA named[496]: validating ./NS: got insecure response; parent indicates it should be secure
09:19 🔗 JAA named[496]: insecurity proof failed resolving './NS/IN': 192.203.230.10#53
09:19 🔗 JAA named[496]: validating ./NS: no valid signature found
09:19 🔗 JAA I can query that server directly without any problems with dig, including +dnssec. The system clock is set correctly, so it shouldn't be a timing issue either.
09:20 🔗 JAA 'dig +cd example.org', i.e. disabling DNSSEC validation, works as well.
09:20 🔗 JAA But it gets weirder...
09:21 🔗 JAA If I run 'ntpq -pn', it suddenly starts working -- until I clear BIND's cache using 'rndc flush'.
09:24 🔗 JAA The BIND config is unchanged from the Debian and Ubuntu defaults. I use the same config on five other machines without any problems. The only difference is that there's one ancient key removed in /etc/bind/bind.keys, but that key was phased out in Feb 2017 and should therefore no longer be used anyway.
09:24 🔗 JAA Does anyone have an idea what could cause this or how to debug it further (e.g. get details on what about the DNSSEC validation fails)?
09:49 🔗 JAA Hmm, apparently it's just all extremely slow. Running 'dig . NS' a couple times eventually lets it succeed. But why? I've never seen that before anywhere, even on very slow connections. Ping to 192.203.230.10 is at 0.2 ms...
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12:34 🔗 kiska Might wanna use Google dns
13:15 🔗 h3ndr1k JAA: You might want to inspect it with a dnssec validator, of which there are a couple. e.g. http://dnsviz.net/d/archiveteam.org/dnssec/
13:17 🔗 h3ndr1k Verisign also has one: https://dnssec-debugger.verisignlabs.com/archiveteam.org
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14:38 🔗 JAA h3ndr1k: Those are nice, but I'd need something to debug this on the machine itself I think. The problem is not what RRSIG records are sent by the remote servers (which are the authorative nameservers) but how BIND handles them.
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21:03 🔗 Raccoon do we talk about archiving 70's and 80's tv shows that get originally published on sites like youtube and are archived noplace else
21:04 🔗 Raccoon i'm noticing a trend where publishers get negative comments about how various epsiodes don't fit into today's standards of sensitivity and grievance politics, and so they get pulled off youtube and lost again forever
21:08 🔗 Raccoon ie, several Gargoyles episodes pulled that depict native american spirit creatures. I expect episodes like this one are on the chopping block too -- watch to 4:15 @ https://youtu.be/PjHna6bjjZQ?t=239
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21:32 🔗 second We should really try to archive git repos https://github.com/hongkonggong/beyond-lennon-walls/blob/master/README.md
21:35 🔗 Igloo You can via archivebot
21:35 🔗 Igloo use ignroeset gihub
21:35 🔗 Igloo and githubnocode
21:35 🔗 Igloo notgithubcode&
21:37 🔗 JAA Yeah, but we don't yet have a (convenient) way to archive the actual repository.
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