#archiveteam-ot 2019-09-07,Sat

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00:04 🔗 Fusl phillipsj: if you set it to sync=disabled you may even see 0 writes/min if you have enough memory
00:32 🔗 phillipsj ehh not going to do that ;)
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01:19 🔗 eythian Hm Wikipedia is offline
01:19 🔗 Flashfire Works for me
01:20 🔗 Flashfire but I am in australia
01:21 🔗 eythian Apparently a ddos in Europe
01:22 🔗 eythian https://twitter.com/JonatanGlad/status/1170059842276511744?s=09
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04:37 🔗 yano https://twitter.com/frankrietta/status/1161455882053607424
04:37 🔗 yano "Archived issues of the now shuttered Linux Journal archives are available via Bit Torrent at magnet:?xt=urn:btih:f3ef2d13f39efbb92ad84b877a6a686c5eba6ca6&dn=linuxjournal-issues-mirror.tar.gz. Help preserve history."
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08:30 🔗 Kaz done
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09:18 🔗 Kaz or at least would be, if there were any seeds..
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09:50 🔗 schbirid for the germans, saturn has a 19% off at the moment so prices are down
10:06 🔗 markedL Ok, I cave, what's this for? https://www.saturn.de/de/product/_reinersct-tanjack%C2%AE-photo-qr-2533443.html
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10:20 🔗 schbirid mobile banking
10:21 🔗 schbirid s/mobile/online
10:34 🔗 markedL Interesting, was not my first guess. Hmm, there's a whole category of these.
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12:07 🔗 JAA phillipsj: You might want to look into running the scripts directly rather than using the VM.
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12:32 🔗 godane GPU : https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-580-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1050-Ti/3923vs3649
12:32 🔗 godane CPU: https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-2700-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1600/3957vs3919
12:32 🔗 godane (08:30:05 AM) godane: so i check the spec from SkyTech Blaze vs a Dell Inspiron Gaming PC
12:32 🔗 godane (08:30:47 AM) godane: turns out the dell's cpu is +4% and the GPU is 79% faster then the SkyTech Blaze
12:33 🔗 godane anyways i think i will be getting a dell
12:34 🔗 godane i just hope it last longer then my other dell that died after 2 years randomly
12:35 🔗 godane thats why i'm on all the time cause i only shutdown my computer if i don't have to
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12:36 🔗 phillipsj JAA I plan to do that eventually. My current "workstation" is having no trouble with 8 VMs though.
12:37 🔗 phillipsj It was a choice between delaying form months or doing it the easy way.
12:39 🔗 * phillipsj is a little worried about the power bill -- was planing to use a spreasheet to estimat power cost.
12:40 🔗 JAA phillipsj: It's not hard to set up the scripts either and will save you a *lot* of overhead. You can still throw it in a VM of course if you want to isolate it, but you'll save the other 7 VMs.
12:40 🔗 JAA And by that, it will also save a significant amount of power I imagine.
12:45 🔗 phillipsj My CPUs are only 30W (x2) out of about 160W for the machine.
12:48 🔗 phillipsj Nope, looks like 50W each: https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/33929/intel-xeon-processor-l5420-12m-cache-2-50-ghz-1333-mhz-fsb.html
12:51 🔗 schbirid godane: always buy used hardward, it is SO much cheper
12:52 🔗 phillipsj But I eventually want to move archiving activity to a single CPU machine.
12:57 🔗 schbirid oh if it was actually you looking at things
12:57 🔗 schbirid or phillipsj :)
12:57 🔗 phillipsj Yes I priced *new* hardware supporting ECC.
12:58 🔗 phillipsj Suddenly spoending $70 on obsolete RAM does not seem so bad.
13:00 🔗 phillipsj I am still amaze I go 4 600GB SAS drives for $130, (in my other server machine with 1 CPU)
13:00 🔗 phillipsj Those things are like $1000 new.
13:02 🔗 phillipsj I made a matching $130 donation to Archive.org at the time.
13:07 🔗 JAA schbirid: 2019-09-07 01:18:54 < godane> so want to get a good gaming pc beween $500 to $700 (in -bs)
13:32 🔗 schbirid ah
13:32 🔗 schbirid no idea about gaming
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13:44 🔗 godane i normally go for a gaming pc cause there normally better specs
13:49 🔗 schbirid unless you are gaming, you get much nicer specs with a _workstation_
13:49 🔗 schbirid no idea about the US, in Germany we have several resellers of used business machines for small money
13:53 🔗 godane i normally don't buy use
13:54 🔗 godane *used
13:54 🔗 godane i buy a new computer every 3 to 4 years
13:55 🔗 godane i'm working on 4 years now with the current system
13:55 🔗 godane got it in 2015
14:43 🔗 phillipsj The CPU in my single-CPU machine's CPU has a 95W TDP for about the same performance as the L5420 -- same process size even. https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/42927/intel-xeon-processor-x3430-8m-cache-2-40-ghz.html (maybe it only uses 50W if I keep turboboost disabled)
14:44 🔗 * phillipsj has to stop editing sub-parts of sentences -- grammar was better before editing
14:47 🔗 phillipsj I *just* installed the LP DDR3 RDIMMs yesterday (after stealing UDIMMs for another machine) -- so RAM alone should draw less power (this machine uses DDR2)
14:50 🔗 phillipsj The requiredment for LP RAM appears to be undocumented, but all the IBM Part numbers for RAM were LP parts for System X3200 M3 (tried and failed 3 different types of 1.5V RDIMMs)..
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17:21 🔗 JAA And this, ladies and gentlemen, is (one of the reasons) why Single Page Applications are a terrible idea: "since it was a SPA (single page application), the poor UI was tightly coupled with the back-end logic; the application required a complete rebuild." https://www.failory.com/interview/repitchbook
17:21 🔗 JAA And not much of value was lost that day.
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23:45 🔗 phillipsj I had to look that up, but it appears to be another term for Web 2.0: when the back button does not work.
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23:46 🔗 JAA Haha, yeah, sounds accurate.
23:46 🔗 phillipsj "although the location hash or the HTML5 History API can be used to provide the perception and navigability of separate logical pages in the application." I guess they addrss that specific complaint - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-page_application
23:46 🔗 JAA Although awful protocols have been built to fix that, unfortunately.
23:47 🔗 JAA Yup, exactly that.
23:48 🔗 phillipsj I did not move my website to HTML5 becuase they did away with version numbers: assuming nobody uses valid HTML anyway. (That, and laziness)
23:53 🔗 JAA Yeah, I hate that. HTML would be *massively* easier to parse if everyone just followed the standard. Including browsers; they're the once that brought this mess onto us with their "oh, that doesn't look quite right, so let's fix it so the dev doesn't have to do additional work".
23:53 🔗 JAA the ones*
23:53 🔗 JAA The standards could also have been more strict of course.
23:54 🔗 JAA It's been a while since I last wrote any websites, but I was one of the few that always wrote perfectly valid (X)HTML.
23:59 🔗 kiska I just did a unit at uni where the thing has to pass the w3 validator
23:59 🔗 JAA :-)

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