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godane |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwuPlHumAgE |
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godane |
so i think that computer i'm eyeing is $1200 computer from last year for $580 now |
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markedL |
followed which standards? There's a standard on the parser now. |
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VADemon |
godane: a near waste of money because a good motherboard will still be compatible with Ryzen 3000-series (12 cores) maybe 16 too if you're lucky |
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JAA |
markedL: Yes, but the standard is *ridiculously* long due to all the edge cases that have to be handled because nobody bothers writing proper HTML. If you want to write a compliant parser, that's going to be thousands of lines of code. With a slightly stricter HTML standard in the early days and strict enforcement of the standard by browser engines back then, it would be perhaps a few hundred lines. |
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JAA |
Just checked, the HTML5 standard is a whopping 1.82 million pixels high (at 1280 px width). That's insane... |
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godane |
VADemon: getting ANY computer that had a graphic card for under $600 will be a first for me |
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godane |
all computers i get at that price normally have integrated graphics |
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JAA |
godane: What do you use your computer for? |
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markedL |
yeah, the browsers did this to themselves by training users that if it looks right it's good enough. If they had built in tools like we now have, but earlier to show errors, I bet we'd be in a different place. |
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VADemon |
you must be in an unfavourable situation |
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godane |
a amd a5 i think |
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godane |
its a asus computer i got for $480 from amazon/bestbuy |
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VADemon |
for 580$ its an excellent price/perf but then again, no cpu upgrado possibru |
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godane |
AMD A10-6700 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics |
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godane |
i figure i'm not going to be upgrading my cpu |
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godane |
i never did on my past system |
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godane |
the best i did was add a memory to my emachine back in 2008 |
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VADemon |
I had a prebuilt Sandy Bridge (i5 2400) when I could've easily bought the i5-2500k/2700k which were THE BEST overclockers of the decade |
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VADemon |
that PC would have lasted me years longer, wouldn't have upgraded to ryzen in '17 |
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godane |
i'm also most likely going to at best gaming wise use it to play playstation 3 emulation |
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VADemon |
RPCS3 showcases on youtube are recorded on an 5.0GHz overclocked i7-8700K. The Ryzen 3000s would be a better match |
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godane |
i need to get a new computer anyways cause the usb ports on my current computer is giving me problems |
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VADemon |
Though Idk how much extra performance their "stable" games need for 30+ fps |
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VADemon |
Just go ahead, there's no wrong in your situation |
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godane |
i guess then i just may go with ps2 emulation then |
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phillipsj |
Re: W3 validator; I saw that in action in a recent scam-baiting video I swa. The scammer asked: "What website do you use?" Baiter "Youtube" -> scammer pulls up W3 validator results for Youtube: "See! Your site is currupted by hackers!" |
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JAA |
Haha, lovely! |
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godane |
VADemon : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t3feVzuMrA |
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godane |
so i think it has improved a lot with amd ryzen 2700x |
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VADemon |
godane: 5:00 wow. what he says is factually incorrect. If 50% is used, that's actually 8 fully taxed cores. 8 extra threads give miniscule headroom (and much less so on Intel architectures) |
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VADemon |
So 8 cores are a good match after all, no need for extremely high clocks at the expense of less cores (8700K) |
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godane |
anyways i think this new computer will help with re-encoding videos and may other archiving stuff |
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VADemon |
SDTV on Slow x264 - 4x of the original FPS. Real-time transcoding is real |
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VADemon |
So yes, it will! |
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godane |
good to know |
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godane |
i go for gaming cause there better spec |
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godane |
and this is better spec then anything else out there at that price |
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VADemon |
I'm on overclocked 1700 and RX 580 btw |
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godane |
cool |
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godane |
i need to re-encoding things down when using my hd capture hardware i got 2 months ago |
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godane |
it puts out about 16mbs or 2gb mp4 for about every 17:16 of video |
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VADemon |
TV capture? I want to get it going myself but its not a priority & money $$$ |
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godane |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC5Zr3NC2PY |
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godane |
i'm using the hd capture device but i have a cheaper gana mini av2hdmi upscaler |
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VADemon |
interesting channels you have |
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godane |
VADemon: one of the videos i recapture with it : https://archive.org/details/A_GPI_Video_The_Johnstown_Flood_1989_MKV |
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godane |
original easycap with composite : https://archive.org/details/A_GPI_Video_The_Johnstown_Flood_1989 |
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godane |
and the SVideo one with easycap : https://archive.org/details/A_GPI_Video_The_Johnstown_Flood_1989_SVideo |
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VADemon |
only the -mkv one is not stretched |
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VADemon |
comparing: 09:54 / 09:53 / 10:05 |
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VADemon |
original easy cap: color corr+sharper and svideo: color corr; -mkv: looks like unedited but this could just be poor capture? |
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godane |
the hd capture device does a raw dump of the tape |
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godane |
with maybe some deinterlacing |
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godane |
anyways i was have audio sync and frame drop issue with easy cap |
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01:17
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godane |
i figure it maybe the front usb ports that are cause my problems with it |
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VADemon |
usb ports, cables, loaded system, whatever if the software only handles realtime without and backlog/queue/catchup mechanisms |
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VADemon |
packet loss on USB? yes, that exists. |
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godane |
i was not have that much of a issue 2 years if at all |
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godane |
the only time i had sync issue was more to do with the software |
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godane |
was using vituraldub on windows for a few tapes cause i couldn't get don't on linux just yet |
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VADemon |
whoah thats barbaric actually. not only does the output gets upscaled but stretched, then this guy in the video unstretches the video while keeping the black bars |
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01:24
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VADemon |
surely software-side enhancing will be doing much better these days than chinese chips |
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01:24
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VADemon |
will do* |
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godane |
i use ffmpeg so there is not blackbars |
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01:26
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VADemon |
✔ and ffmpeg should be able to do whatever virtualdub is doing too |
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01:26
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godane |
got help from some guy on archiveteam chat to do it with ffmpeg |
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01:26
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godane |
i had to keep pulseaudio before every encode with easycap |
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VADemon |
its needlessly complex, something I hate about ffmpeg |
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godane |
or the script wouldn't work |
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01:27
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godane |
anyways now i just have combine.sh code to make my mkv files from the mp4s the hd capture device makes |
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godane |
that takes it from 720p 16:9 to 480p 4:3 with a 20d+ on the audio |
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01:29
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godane |
audio is a bit low but you can up it by 20d+ to get it about right |
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VADemon |
>dB< okay, interesting |
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godane |
VADemon : my combine.sh script : https://pastebin.com/Pmjibrsw |
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VADemon |
what codec is it recorded as? |
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VADemon |
you should prefer streamable mp4 container over mkv |
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godane |
my reason for mkv vs mp4 in this case is the file size |
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godane |
archive.org will use the mp4 to steam by default |
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VADemon |
really?! |
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astrid |
yeah and it won't rederive |
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godane |
i don't want people to have to download 100MB to just get 20 seconds worth of video streaming |
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astrid |
i think godane wants to have archive.org hide the hi-bitrate original behind a rederive |
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godane |
not to hide it |
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godane |
just to derive a streamable copy of it |
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astrid |
right, i chose words poorly but i understand :) |
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VADemon |
oh ok that makes sense |
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godane |
i'm also the guy that bitch at someone on the tv-vault irc about re-encoding mp4 files to mkv |
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VADemon |
codec (e.g. h264) is different to a container (mkv/mp4) it is in |
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VADemon |
you are on the internet, how has nobody taught you yet?! :D |
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godane |
my understand its just a different container |
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godane |
but mkv is sort streamable on chrome but not in firefox from what i have heard |
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VADemon |
but one can definitely re-encode *and* put it in a different container. or just rewrap existing contents (- copy) |
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godane |
that what the tv-vault guy did |
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godane |
i had a problem with cause it was dvd to mkv to tv pirate scene to mkv |
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godane |
mkv's to me only apply to direct source from source video if possible |
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VADemon |
matroska site themselves say there're two possible ways to "stream" their format. firefox must've been lazy |
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godane |
so found out that New Zealand Station issue 10 in TOSEC-PIX also has metadata stripped |
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godane |
oldly another pdf that i was also downloading at the same time still has the metadata |
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godane |
TOSEC 'baking' process is very bad |
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godane |
btw can anyone get the 2019 set of TOSEC-PIX |
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godane |
just the updated sets for 2019 of TOSEC-PIX cause i don't need the full thing |
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godane |
i'm grabbing that on the-eye |
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godane |
but its from at torrent from late 2019-08 |
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godane |
*2018-08 |
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schbirid |
anyone know how to exclude <video> controls from tabbing in a webkit/chrome browser? setting a super high tabindex on the element does nothing nor does wrapping it in a div with that |
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JAA |
Why do you want to break your page's keyboard navigation? |
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schbirid |
why do you want to be a know-it-better when you have no idea what i use it for |
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schbirid |
hacking some things for a presentation :) |
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Kaz |
as always.. https://xkcd.com/1172/ |
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JAA |
I just asked... Personal hacks are fine. |
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JAA |
You say "super high tabindex", but normally the way to skip on the tab key would be setting it to -1 I think. |
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JAA |
Does hiding the controls altogether not work in WebKit? |
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schbirid |
ah, nvm it works with -9 indeed. sorry i had something wrong when testing |
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schbirid |
nah, i need the controls to be accessible (dabummm) with the mouse |
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schbirid |
-1 |
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schbirid |
-1 on the video element \o/ |
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godane |
maybe some here can unscramble this image: https://id.ascii.jp/ebook_contents/ida_1113_a/scramble/item/xhtml/p-003.xhtml/0.jpeg |
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godane |
turns out i can grab all the weekly ascii that ascii.jp has |
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godane |
but there all scrambled |
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godane |
here is one of the preview pages : https://id.ascii.jp/ebook/viewer.html?cid=anyone_1113_t# |
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godane |
but you can grab all the scrambled images like the one above that |
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godane |
here is the cover script viewer code: https://id.ascii.jp/ebook/js/viewer_1.0.0_2016-03-10.js |
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systwiALT |
Suggestions on grabbing geocities.ws sites with grab-site? |
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systwiALT |
For example, I'd like to grab this: http://www.geocities.ws/dat_iced_out_shawty_2001/ |
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systwiALT |
(it's an open directory with .html pages and resources) |
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systwiALT |
If I just do $ grab-site http://www.geocities.ws/dat_iced_out_shawty_2001/ won't that also grab all of geocities.ws? |
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systwiALT |
Here's another site, not an opendir though http://www.geocities.ws/pitcher_ross7/ |
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JAA |
systwiALT: I'm pretty sure grab-site uses --no-parent, so no, it won't recurse out of that directory. |
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JAA |
(Well, except off-site links unless you use the option to suppress those.) |
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systwiALT |
Thanks JAA. Can I have it grab the parent page as well as an individual page (don't recurse through it) in the same grab? |
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systwiALT |
i.e. grab the site I want, and the parent page |
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systwiALT |
but don't go any further back |
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systwiALT |
or to any links on the parent page |
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JAA |
systwiALT: I have no idea what you mean. |
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systwiALT |
!a grab on the geocities site I want, and an !ao grab of the parent |
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systwiALT |
If this isn't possible that's fine |
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JAA |
The parent would always be http://www.geocities.ws/ though? |
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systwiALT |
In this case, yeah |
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JAA |
Not sure if grab-site lets you override --no-parent in any way. You can do it through the wpull hook, but probably grab-site doesn't expose that. So you'll likely have to run two jobs, one for the directory you want to grab recursively, and one with --1 for the parent. |
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systwiALT |
Ok no worries, thank you for the indo |
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systwiALT |
*info |
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