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icedice |
Two days ago: |
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icedice |
Volume size = 930,97 GB |
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icedice |
Free space = 392,93 GB |
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icedice |
Total fragmented space = 22% |
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icedice |
Largest free space size = 5,40 GB |
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icedice |
Today: |
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icedice |
Volume size = 930,97 GB |
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icedice |
Free space = 363,84 GB |
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icedice |
Total fragmented space = 27% |
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icedice |
Largest free space size = 3,58 GB |
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icedice |
Is it just going to keep fragmenting even though I cleared up all of that space? |
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icedice |
I really need to figure out how to run Storage Optimizer manually |
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icedice |
Not sure I can wait for its automatic run which will happen sometime within the next 28 days |
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ivan_ |
icedice: does the output list MFT fragmentation? |
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ivan_ |
hmm try defrag /A /V C: |
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ivan_ |
or just defrag it with defrag /U /V C: |
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ivan_ |
Windows should TRIM the free space on your SSDs by default, what does Storage Optimizer do? |
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ScruffyB |
icedice, the fragmentation probably went up because you deleted non-fragmented files. |
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JAA |
Imagine using a file system that has fragmentation issues... *laughs in ext4* |
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ivan_ |
fragmentation is inevitable when free space is low or when you repeatedly append to files over time |
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ivan_ |
NTFS doesn't have some great issue with it |
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Raccoon |
If any chunk of that data is static read-only media, your best plan is to buy a 4TB platter drive and only copy completed permanent read-only media to that drive. Never deleting or appending. |
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Raccoon |
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0713WPGLL/ |
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Raccoon |
and probably format it as exFAT for portability so you don't have to deal with ACL/ADS nonsense |
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themadpr0 |
hey hey hey |
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themadpr0 |
Someone decided to remove all chat permissions from the Discord server in order to lure us to IRC |
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themadpr0 |
I've been lured to IRC |
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JAA |
ivan_: True, but ext4 seems to do a much better job at handling that. I have a FS here that has been at 95+ % for years, often 99+ % even, with constant writes and appends, yet only 1.3 % of the data is non-contiguous. But obviously that strongly depends on how you use the FS exactly. |
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Raccoon |
themadpr0: that's how we getcha! |
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JAA |
Discord is shit, IRC is the shit! :-) |
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Raccoon |
speaking of drives, I need another 2 or 3. :( media disks at a combined 97% capacity |
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Raccoon |
after pruning |
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themadpr0 |
the graph in the lower left corner of the warrior is showing all 0's |
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themadpr0 |
am I doing it right? |
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Fusl |
yeah, its been broken for a while |
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Raccoon |
does anyone else see 'bl' at the top of this page and source? http://otrrlibrary.org/ |
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themadpr0 |
@Fusl well thanks |
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icedice |
ivan_: It's an SSD. I'm not sure defragmentation would even work. I guess it wouldn't strain the SSD that much if it's only one time though. I've run TRIM and it didn't do anything. |
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icedice |
"Storage Optimizer will defrag an SSD once a month if volume snapshots are enabled." |
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icedice |
Source: https://www.hanselman.com/blog/TheRealAndCompleteStoryDoesWindowsDefragmentYourSSD.aspx |
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icedice |
I've had my SSD pretty filled up. Would be a shame if this is not fixable. CrystalDiskInfo and chkdsk says that the SSD is healthy, so that's something, at least. |
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Raccoon |
defrag is also pretty relative in terms of unused space optimization. I do wish that SSD had the option to re-shuffle logical fragmentation into logical sequential order so the filesystem and os don't have to think so hard about jumping from cluster to cluster |
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Raccoon |
from a performance stand point, logical fragmentation is probably a lot more burdensome than physical fragmentation in a good SSD |
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Raccoon |
i guess that statement is undervalued, since basically raid their chip array |
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Raccoon |
*since SSDs |
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ivan_ |
icedice: I don't know why you're so scared of your hardware |
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ivan_ |
if it's under warranty and under the warrantied TBW you can get it replaced |
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ivan_ |
also `defrag` sometimes wants to do way too many passes, you probably only need 1 or 2, so you can ctrl-c it at some point |
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icedice |
ivan_: Everything I touch breaks. That's why. |
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ivan_ |
learn Bayes, do science, investigate causal factors that aren't about you |
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icedice |
I should probably register the warranty on that SSD |
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icedice |
I still got warranty from the retailer though, which is the first place to go if it fails |
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ivan_ |
if you paid extra for some warranty at retail those are just places that take your money to send the product to the OEM for warranty service |
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icedice |
No, there's usually warranty included for free from the place I bought it from iirc |
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icedice |
Or that's probably just manufacturer's warranty |
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Raccoon |
ivan_: do you see 'bl' at the top of this page and source? http://otrrlibrary.org/ |
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Raccoon |
JAA: offtopic question. if i bought a 4TB usb harddrive to pass around in circles with other archivists, what are your predicted metrics for interest and success? |
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JAA |
Not the slightest idea. |
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Raccoon |
the operators of the aformentioned website said they would dump me an archive if I sent them a drive. Figure it could make some circles around |
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Raccoon |
estimates aroud 2 to 3 gigs depending on what extras are recovered from the recently deceased founder's drives too |
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Raccoon |
2 to 3 tbs |
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kiska |
None, as I would *not* like to pay shipping from Syd to wherever |
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markedL |
well, shipping within the US for example is affordable but international, yeah |
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markedL |
yeah, no |
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Raccoon |
i don't remember shipping to Melburne being all that terribad |
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JAA |
I know that hard drives have been shipped to IA before. |
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kiska |
From Syd to US: https://server8.kiska.pw/uploads/263b4d19ac676d01/image.png |
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kiska |
Yeah... no thanks |
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markedL |
the super cheap shipping is less than 13oz, but also less than 1pound. should be able to get some flash at that density |
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JAA |
2-3 months between major metro areas. lol |
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kiska |
Well... it is economy sea :D |
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JAA |
Yeah, they probably put it in a random container and then it'll be shipped around until the container happens to be in the destination city? |
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kiska |
Yep :D |
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Raccoon |
but man, some of your restrictions and prohibitions are insane. can't send paper money, or anything of value, even a stamp collection |
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Raccoon |
Seditious literature, and anything made with prison labor (ie, Victoria Secret) |
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Raccoon |
so I just metered the price, USPS intl package. $6 to $8, otherwise $14 depending on method. Crazy it's $40+ the other way. |
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kiska |
Yeah the general rule is, if you send something to Australia, don't expect it back :D |
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Raccoon |
we also have something called 'media mail' and one of the cheap options says "documents only as of 2018", which allows for CDs and disks. I imagine harddrives count. |
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Raccoon |
I can't wait for 10 TB micro-SD cards. |
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Raccoon |
ship it via weather balloon |
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ivan_ |
Raccoon: yes |
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icedice2 |
I had an exchange student transport some manga magazines from Japan to Europe by plane once. Worked well and saved me a lot of money on shipping. Not sure someone would be willing cross international borders with an unknown hard drive though. |
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kpcyrd |
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