[00:19] *** yawkat has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 360 seconds) [00:23] *** jspiros has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [00:24] *** jspiros has joined #archiveteam-ot [00:43] *** yawkat has joined #archiveteam-ot [01:14] *** jspiros has quit IRC () [01:15] *** jspiros has joined #archiveteam-ot [01:52] *** BlueMax has joined #archiveteam-ot [02:10] *** DogsRNice has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [02:34] ivan: Are 403s retried in grab-site? [02:35] READ the README my man [02:35] Ah, sorry :/ [02:35] --permanent-error-status-codes [02:39] Is there a way to have it retry _all_ error codes? [02:39] Should I use a weird number like 9999? 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Too bad. [12:12] --permanent-error-status-codes '' [12:42] *** Shen has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [12:57] *** DLoader has joined #archiveteam-ot [13:09] *** Shen has joined #archiveteam-ot [14:16] *** DogsRNice has joined #archiveteam-ot [14:31] NaN [14:42] *** Hani has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [15:06] *** phillipsj has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [15:20] *** BlueMaxim has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [15:37] *** fuzzy8021 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:37] *** fuzzy8021 has joined #archiveteam-ot [15:59] *** dhyan_nat has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [16:08] *** Zerote_ has joined #archiveteam-ot [16:13] *** Zerote has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [16:30] *** Zerote has joined #archiveteam-ot [16:34] *** Zerote_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 612 seconds) [16:39] *** Zerote_ has joined #archiveteam-ot [16:40] *** Zerote__ has joined #archiveteam-ot [16:44] *** Zerote has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 496 seconds) [16:44] *** Zerote_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [16:45] *** Zerote has joined #archiveteam-ot [16:47] *** Zerote__ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [18:30] *** nepeat has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [18:31] *** nepeat has joined #archiveteam-ot [19:54] Does anyone know offhand what the current U.S. cutoff year for public domain is for most b&w / silent films [19:58] according to https://creativecommons.org/public-domain-reopening/ it is 1923 [19:59] although that assumes that the copyright was renewed (in many cases - particularly more obscure works - it wasn't deemed worthwhile to renew, so those works actually entered the public domain a while ago) [20:05] How does that work the (in theory even) when somebody re-releases it onto VHS, DVD or Bluray [20:06] maybe with some paltry upscaling [20:06] Do they earn a copyright themselves for the act of putting the film onto reel and re-recorde it onto another format? [20:21] not particularly sure (and IANAL disclaimer) [20:25] https://archive.org/post/39599/help-needed-with-copyright-issues [20:26] it seems also to be the case with remastered songs: [20:26] https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160602/07371934600/this-is-bad-court-says-remastered-old-songs-get-brand-new-copyright.shtml [20:36] *** systwi_ has joined #archiveteam-ot [20:44] *** systwi has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [21:04] the linked case to that covers a lot of the issues. it basically said format or automated conversions are not sufficient human creativity for new copyright to apply, but a remastering involving creative choices could possibly [21:07] *** dhyan_nat has joined #archiveteam-ot [21:25] Thanks [21:42] *** dhyan_nat has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [21:49] Classic -ot [22:06] I think the Wiki ought to have an OT section on copyright, case law, precedence and scholarly articles on reform [22:07] Surely IA has seen its fair share of copyright legalities [22:12] Surely IA doesn't really want to share those stories for legal or other reasons. [22:32] even their victories? [22:38] *** Zerote has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [22:41] anyway, my thought on the matter was to educate people who believe in the mission of IA about the pitfalls of Copyright, to educate people who currently don't hold an opinion on reform. [22:41] er, pretend i wrote that without distraction [23:31] *** BlueMax has joined #archiveteam-ot [23:44] people happily give money to Disney, Disney happily gives money to congress; that's where our current reform comes from [23:48] And your congress members happily accept that money. That's the real problem.