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Oh, let's not do that |
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Raccoon |
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Ryz |
Sniff sniff, what do I hear? Bullshit? Yeah, bullshit: https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/blizzard/23185888/regarding-last-weekend-s-hearthstone-grandmasters-tournament |
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Ryz |
...What a load of bullshit, "The specific views expressed by blitzchung were NOT a factor in the decision we made. I want to be clear: our relationships in China had no influence on our decision." |
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Raccoon |
Well, they're not lying. Just dancing around the issue. "It is extremely important to us to protect these channels... [from being shut down by China]" |
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Raccoon |
that's all it is |
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Raccoon |
If the dude won their tournament and cash prize, it would stand to reason they still owe him that. You can't take away the winning Powerball or Megamillions ticket away from somebody who complains about Trump. |
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Raccoon |
It seems the law is compelling them to do that much, at least. |
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Ryz |
Hmm, >;o - https://twitter.com/SGBluebell/status/1182817588147052544 |
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Ryz |
lol the text got chopped up into pieces: https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Technology/wireStory/uber-acquire-food-delivery-service-cornershop-66212598 |
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Ryz |
Saw it stand out from me searching with my usual company acquisition stuff |
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icedice |
What is better to shuck, WD My Book 8TB or WD Elements 8TB? |
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icedice |
Hmm |
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icedice |
Wrong channel |
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icedice |
No wait, right channel |
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icedice |
I'm tired |
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markedL |
can you tell what drive model is in them from the outside? |
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ivan |
icedice: My Book is more likely to be a helium drive |
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ivan |
but the non-helium drives just run at higher temperatures / more energy use afaik |
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ivan |
you can smartctl them and see if they both have 22 Current Helium Level |
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ivan |
smartctl -d sat --all /dev/sdX | grep 22 |
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icedice |
https://www.multitronic.fi/en/products/1506197/wd-my-book-8-tb---external-hdd |
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icedice |
https://www.multitronic.fi/en/products/2115697/wd-ext-elements-8tb---external-hdd |
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icedice |
ivan: Thanks for the tip, but I don't have Linux and I haven't bought either yet |
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icedice |
Also, have helium drives gotten more reliable during the past two years? |
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icedice |
https://www.overclock.net/forum/20-hard-drives-storage/1634071-warning-about-8tb-drives-cautious-aware-higher-rate-failure-degraded-surfaces.html |
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icedice |
I think ever HDD over 6TB has helium in it though, so it's not like I have much of a choice if I want an 8TB HDD |
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icedice |
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JAA |
There are non-He 8 TB HDDs. |
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JAA |
10+ TB are all He though I think. |
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ivan |
icedice: my helium drives are all good still after 2 years |
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ivan |
backblaze stats looked fine |
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icedice |
BackBlaze conditions doesn't apply for people who don't have consumer drives in high vibration data center environments |
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icedice |
* don't |
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ivan |
how do you know how much vibration they have |
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ivan |
also, even if they did have more vibration, wouldn't their stats hopefully set a maximum bound on your expected failure rate? |
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JAA |
These consumer drives are typically rated for use in a desktop chassis with maybe a couple other drives nearby. They stuff 45 into a tight enclosure. Of course there are dampeners, but it's hard to imagine that setup not producing more vibration. But yeah, all that means is that the failure rate can't be applied; all their drives are still in the same (off-spec) environment, so you can compare the |
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JAA |
failure rates between the drives they run just fine. |
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JAA |
can't be applied to a typical consumer setup* |
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icedice |
I am saying that BackBlaze's setup produces more vibration, yes |
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icedice |
Basically, I've read that it's comparing apples to oranges when using BackBlaze's data outside of a similar setup |
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ivan |
https://bioteam.net/2011/08/why-you-should-never-build-a-backblaze-pod/ interesting Nexsan comment |
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icedice |
I wonder if my PSU can even power another internal HDD |
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ivan |
people on the internet can just say things |
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icedice |
True |
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ivan |
they don't need to be good at knowing anything before they start making a new meme about X |
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icedice |
Sometimes they know what they're doing, other times they don't know shit |
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