[00:06] Oh, let's not do that [00:08] Archive Team's Mickey Mouse Ribbon Campaign [00:09] *** yawkat has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [00:26] *** yawkat has joined #archiveteam-ot [00:31] *** nepeat has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [00:31] *** nepeat has joined #archiveteam-ot [00:37] *** Verelic has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) [00:47] Sniff sniff, what do I hear? Bullshit? Yeah, bullshit: https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/blizzard/23185888/regarding-last-weekend-s-hearthstone-grandmasters-tournament [00:47] ...What a load of bullshit, "The specific views expressed by blitzchung were NOT a factor in the decision we made. I want to be clear: our relationships in China had no influence on our decision." [00:56] Well, they're not lying. Just dancing around the issue. "It is extremely important to us to protect these channels... [from being shut down by China]" [00:56] that's all it is [00:59] If the dude won their tournament and cash prize, it would stand to reason they still owe him that. You can't take away the winning Powerball or Megamillions ticket away from somebody who complains about Trump. [01:00] It seems the law is compelling them to do that much, at least. [01:31] *** Fusl has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded) [01:31] *** Fusl has joined #archiveteam-ot [01:32] *** Fusl____ sets mode: +o Fusl [01:32] *** Fusl_ sets mode: +o Fusl [02:04] *** DogsRNice has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [03:10] *** qw3rty has joined #archiveteam-ot [03:14] *** godane has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [03:16] *** qw3rty2 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 745 seconds) [03:29] *** godane has joined #archiveteam-ot [03:47] Hmm, >;o - https://twitter.com/SGBluebell/status/1182817588147052544 [03:49] *** phillipsj has joined #archiveteam-ot [04:22] *** Fusl has quit IRC (Excess Flood) [04:23] *** Fusl has joined #archiveteam-ot [04:23] *** Fusl____ sets mode: +o Fusl [04:23] *** Fusl_ sets mode: +o Fusl [04:37] *** dhyan_nat has joined #archiveteam-ot [06:22] lol the text got chopped up into pieces: https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Technology/wireStory/uber-acquire-food-delivery-service-cornershop-66212598 [06:22] Saw it stand out from me searching with my usual company acquisition stuff [07:54] *** Zerote has joined #archiveteam-ot [08:08] *** systwi_ is now known as systwi [09:14] *** kiska has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [09:15] *** Flashfire has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [09:16] *** kiska has joined #archiveteam-ot [09:16] *** Fusl____ sets mode: +o kiska [09:16] *** Flashfire has joined #archiveteam-ot [09:16] *** Fusl sets mode: +o kiska [09:16] *** Fusl_ sets mode: +o kiska [09:59] *** VerifiedJ has joined #archiveteam-ot [11:19] *** Mateon1 has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [11:19] *** Mateon1 has joined #archiveteam-ot [11:35] *** schbirid has joined #archiveteam-ot [12:34] *** BlueMax has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:09] *** xit has quit IRC () [13:09] *** xit has joined #archiveteam-ot [13:35] *** Dj-Wawa has quit IRC (Quit: Dj-Wawa) [13:36] *** Dj-Wawa has joined #archiveteam-ot [13:39] *** Dj-Wawa has quit IRC (Client Quit) [13:40] *** Dj-Wawa has joined #archiveteam-ot [15:06] *** godane has quit IRC (Leaving.) [15:11] *** Zerote has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 612 seconds) [15:31] *** DigiDigi has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [15:35] *** DigiDigi has joined #archiveteam-ot [16:53] *** icedice has joined #archiveteam-ot [16:53] What is better to shuck, WD My Book 8TB or WD Elements 8TB? [16:55] Hmm [16:55] Wrong channel [16:55] No wait, right channel [16:56] I'm tired [16:58] can you tell what drive model is in them from the outside? [17:02] icedice: My Book is more likely to be a helium drive [17:02] but the non-helium drives just run at higher temperatures / more energy use afaik [17:03] you can smartctl them and see if they both have 22 Current Helium Level [17:05] smartctl -d sat --all /dev/sdX | grep 22 [17:22] https://www.multitronic.fi/en/products/1506197/wd-my-book-8-tb---external-hdd [17:22] https://www.multitronic.fi/en/products/2115697/wd-ext-elements-8tb---external-hdd [17:23] ivan: Thanks for the tip, but I don't have Linux and I haven't bought either yet [17:24] Also, have helium drives gotten more reliable during the past two years? [17:24] https://www.overclock.net/forum/20-hard-drives-storage/1634071-warning-about-8tb-drives-cautious-aware-higher-rate-failure-degraded-surfaces.html [17:25] I think ever HDD over 6TB has helium in it though, so it's not like I have much of a choice if I want an 8TB HDD [17:25] * every [17:25] There are non-He 8 TB HDDs. [17:26] 10+ TB are all He though I think. [17:26] icedice: my helium drives are all good still after 2 years [17:26] backblaze stats looked fine [17:27] BackBlaze conditions doesn't apply for people who don't have consumer drives in high vibration data center environments [17:27] * don't [17:31] how do you know how much vibration they have [17:33] also, even if they did have more vibration, wouldn't their stats hopefully set a maximum bound on your expected failure rate? [17:36] These consumer drives are typically rated for use in a desktop chassis with maybe a couple other drives nearby. They stuff 45 into a tight enclosure. Of course there are dampeners, but it's hard to imagine that setup not producing more vibration. But yeah, all that means is that the failure rate can't be applied; all their drives are still in the same (off-spec) environment, so you can compare the [17:36] failure rates between the drives they run just fine. [17:36] can't be applied to a typical consumer setup* [17:37] I am saying that BackBlaze's setup produces more vibration, yes [17:38] Basically, I've read that it's comparing apples to oranges when using BackBlaze's data outside of a similar setup [17:39] https://bioteam.net/2011/08/why-you-should-never-build-a-backblaze-pod/ interesting Nexsan comment [17:39] I wonder if my PSU can even power another internal HDD [17:39] people on the internet can just say things [17:40] True [17:40] they don't need to be good at knowing anything before they start making a new meme about X [17:40] Sometimes they know what they're doing, other times they don't know shit [18:08] *** godane has joined #archiveteam-ot [18:24] *** Zerote has joined #archiveteam-ot [18:28] *** katocala has quit IRC () [18:30] *** nepeat has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [18:31] *** nepeat has joined #archiveteam-ot [18:37] *** katocala has joined #archiveteam-ot [19:54] *** DogsRNice has joined #archiveteam-ot [20:06] *** Zerote has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [20:49] *** Zerote has joined #archiveteam-ot [21:01] *** dhyan_nat has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [21:02] *** VerifiedJ has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [21:22] *** killsushi has joined #archiveteam-ot [21:52] *** Zerote has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [22:06] *** DogsRNice has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [23:12] *** wp494 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 604 seconds) [23:12] *** wp494 has joined #archiveteam-ot [23:20] *** BlueMax has joined #archiveteam-ot [23:24] *** wp494 has quit IRC (Quit: LOUD UNNECESSARY QUIT MESSAGES) [23:40] *** wp494 has joined #archiveteam-ot