#archiveteam-ot 2019-11-03,Sun

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00:52 🔗 h3ndr1k germanys media markt is selling 8tb mybooks for 125,10 eur. (139 without ebay coupon)
01:06 🔗 Raccoon seems better than US Amazon prices by 10 eur
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06:30 🔗 Raccoon Does anyone want 4096 samples of recaptcha's audio captcha from 2012. it sounds like drunk people saying random words, with background chatter.
06:31 🔗 Raccoon it's about 260 mb
06:36 🔗 Raccoon or 37 hours worth of pretty obnoxious random audio
07:27 🔗 eientei95 https://torrentfreak.com/backing-up-doomed-radio-station-online-archives-was-mass-piracy-191028/
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07:46 🔗 dxrt Raccoon: Upload to IA!
08:33 🔗 phillipsj h3ndr1k, yeah, but then youo would eb stuck with a macbook. https://petapixel.com/2019/06/11/this-is-why-macs-are-slower-than-pcs/ (TL;DW: only apples iphone deosn't themal throttle)
08:34 🔗 * phillipsj needs sleep, possibly.
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09:36 🔗 h3ndr1k phillipsj: I meant Western Digital MyBooks which are external harddrives :P
09:37 🔗 h3ndr1k A Macbook for 125€ would be nice though...
10:30 🔗 phillipsj Was wondering why the price was only triple digit.
10:31 🔗 phillipsj Yeah, I definitely mis-read your comment.
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21:39 🔗 godane so i got my new 5TB seagate usb drive
21:39 🔗 Raccoon my WD arrives tomorrow
21:40 🔗 godane move some of the animes i have watch to it
21:40 🔗 godane already format it to EXT4
21:41 🔗 Raccoon If Windows 10 would support EXT4, I might switch my main desktop OS. Dumb microsoft.
21:42 🔗 godane i have a fear of one my hard drive going like one of my usb stick that i mounted on windows a few years ago
21:43 🔗 godane the label went weird and it was stuck as read-only
21:43 🔗 godane but you couldn't copy the files off if
21:43 🔗 godane *it
21:43 🔗 Raccoon do you keep redundancy copies? if not for big media, then definitely keep SHA checksums
21:44 🔗 godane i do keep some copies of stuff
21:44 🔗 godane on multible drives
21:44 🔗 Raccoon same, but i can't afford to keep the hefty stuff. i just share with friends and hope I never have to use them as a backup
21:45 🔗 godane i have like 400gb of anime i can copy to this new drive to free my main 8tb drive
21:45 🔗 Raccoon would be cool to create some touch-n-go sync with a traveling harddrive to update all my offsite offline friend/family copies, without doing a full disk image
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21:46 🔗 Raccoon gets tricky when renaming and moving folders. end up copying an entire folder again when you could have just renamed it on the target.
21:47 🔗 godane agree
21:48 🔗 Raccoon a super advanced journaling filesystem could be invented. EXT5
21:48 🔗 Raccoon git/svn backend
21:49 🔗 JAA Sounds like awful performance.
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21:50 🔗 Raccoon JAA: keeping a log of "renamed {jXgDwNKUrrhsKATtCFrqJ} from ''The Family (1913)'' to ''Family, The (1913)''" doesn't seem awful
21:51 🔗 JAA No, but the performance of a git-based backend would be.
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21:51 🔗 Raccoon i don't mean with internet queries
21:51 🔗 Raccoon just versioning log
21:52 🔗 godane i think Raccoon wants a git filelist log
21:52 🔗 godane not a git full file diff log
21:52 🔗 Raccoon merges only take place when you rub two harddisks together
21:53 🔗 godane i will say this new hard drive is a lot faster i think
21:53 🔗 godane i'm getting 100mb+ per second transfer
21:53 🔗 Raccoon godane: even for that, selective full file diff could exist for anticipated filetypes and explicitly flagged files
21:54 🔗 Raccoon otherwise, a simple SHA is recorded
21:54 🔗 godane ok
21:55 🔗 Raccoon running SHA computation is calculated block by block during file write, and then completed when file is closed
21:55 🔗 Raccoon no more bit flips
21:55 🔗 Raccoon *no more undetected bitflip ignorance
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22:35 🔗 markedL there are file systems that can detect bit flips, at least on LInux
22:35 🔗 ivan Raccoon: maybe you want git-annex
22:36 🔗 Raccoon ivan: yes, JAA mentioned it last night. looking it over
22:37 🔗 ivan also the rsync rename issue is annoying but I'm not sure it's bad enough to eliminate rsync as a solution
22:37 🔗 ivan pick good directory structures and filenames in advance and treat them as mostly-immutable
22:38 🔗 ivan rename big changes on the target in advance on the rare occasion that you need to
22:39 🔗 Raccoon ivan: yeah. it's tough. I need to invent or adopt a metadata tagging system. I tend/always leave filenames alone and immutable, but use their folder names for tagging and pretty human-readable access
22:40 🔗 Raccoon need to strike that balance between maintenance and lay use
22:40 🔗 ivan https://github.com/search?q=rsync%20rename+fork:true&ref=simplesearch&type=Repositories has some odd stuff
22:42 🔗 ivan https://git-annex.branchable.com/tips/metadata_driven_views/
22:56 🔗 Raccoon I'm looking at writing an extension for Voidtools Everything for Windows, which keeps a file index and monitors for file changes
22:57 🔗 Raccoon I can start writing out stand-alone metadata/journal entries the contents of different folders and collection sets
22:58 🔗 Raccoon dump ffprobe info to the same metadata file
22:59 🔗 Raccoon SHA checksums, torrent magnet link, etc
23:41 🔗 JAA You might also be interested in ffmpeg's framemd5 "codec".
23:43 🔗 JAA That dumps an MD5 hash of each frame's raw data stream (or something like that), so that can be used whether a corruption is in the metadata vs data or in which frame it is in the latter case.
23:43 🔗 Raccoon could be useful for locating dupes
23:43 🔗 JAA I recently came across that while trying to verify that a combination of options actually produced a lossless encode.
23:43 🔗 Raccoon does it work for a variety of video and audio encoding schemes?
23:44 🔗 JAA Yes, it's codec-independent. But obviously it'll only produce matching hashes for lossless encodes.
23:44 🔗 Raccoon well, lossless encodes, or lossy encodes that have been corrupted, truncated, or lossless-cropped
23:45 🔗 Raccoon ie, half of the mp3s you'd find on gnutella/edonkey/kazaa etc
23:46 🔗 JAA Well yeah, I meant regarding finding dupes among different encodes, only works if those are lossless.
23:46 🔗 Raccoon true
23:48 🔗 Raccoon I've gone over pretty much all mp3s with mp3val, mp3checker and audiotester, eliminating anything that identified as truncated or otherwise corrupt, that's not truly unique.
23:49 🔗 Raccoon i need to try ffmpeg as a validater, but it's not so straight forward. rather some read/encode-to-null nonsense to identify corrupt frames, that doesn't seem very effecient at its job
23:50 🔗 Raccoon hoping to bribe somebody into adding a -validate flag function
23:52 🔗 Raccoon fun trick. before deleting files that look corrupt, validate it through 7zip to see if it finds an appended archive
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23:54 🔗 Raccoon not only did i find .mp3s turned out to be .mp3.zip collections/albums, but also found dumb things like zipped keygens, nfos, porn
23:56 🔗 markedL so these are not mp3s at all, just zips renamed to .mp3?
23:56 🔗 Raccoon yeah. many players like winamp and vlc, probably mpc will play zipped up mp3s, even if it's named .mp3. sometimes they be named .zab for (zipped audiobook).
23:58 🔗 Raccoon and if you appendage a zip or rar to the end of almost any media file format -- images, audio, video -- the player will play them fine and ignore the zip at the end. and pretty much every archive softare -- winzip, winrar, 7zip -- will scan an entire file for an embedded zip/rar container that starts anywhere.
23:59 🔗 Raccoon if you're clever, you can create a list of which image hosting websites don't stript out embedded zips; preserving / hosting them for you.
23:59 🔗 Raccoon or mp3 hosting websites

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