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still need help with non-English YouTube if anyone wants to find the good content |
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I used channelcrawler to get the popular stuff for each language but popular is usually not the best |
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ivan: I worked on the crawler for the annotation archive project, and have since extended it a lot. I still have issues with just how *much* content it crawls. My last run caught 63 million unique pages (~200k queued but uncrawled), 253 million link relationships (what page links to what)... and then crashed. |
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Turns out node really doesn't like having massive data structures that store tens of millions of keys and gigabytes of data in memory |
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1) A single array has a very limited maximum .length, 2) A single object can only store so much before node gives up, 3) Node doesn't like giving WASM modules a lot of memory, so my Rust hashset implementation only worked for a little while. |
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JAA |
What a surprise... |
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Yes, you can't get rid of me so easy! |
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JAA, do you have the latest version of Chrome installed? |
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I've never had any version of Chrome installed. |
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If someone here has Chrome installed, I would like to confirm an experiment that suggests Chrome is preventing users from downloading copyrighted content. |
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Raccoon |
A) Visit https://cdn4.vectorstock.com/i/1000x1000/00/93/of-thief-vector-23180093.jpg B) right-click the image, select Save Image As... C) It should say "Download Failed: Blocked" |
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Eww |
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Raccoon |
The image loads and displays fine, but the browser prevents it from being "downloaded" (user experience) |
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Who the fuck came up with that shit? |
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Is that a Chrome "feature" or also in Chromium? |
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Raccoon: Can't reproduce on Chromium |
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The same Google who came up with the shit of blocking use of the "Save Video" context menu on google owned domain names |
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I only use Google Chrome browser for Windows |
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I know I've seen the "Blocked" message on download before, but I haven't paid too much attention then |
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Raccoon |
Mateon1: latest Chrome Browser update? |
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Chromium: Version 77.0.3865.120 (Developer Build) (64-bit) |
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Can reproduce on Version 80.0.3946.0 (Official Build) (64-bit) |
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Wait, is nixos really that far behind? |
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mls_: Had you seen this behavior before? |
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mls_ |
Nope, first for me |
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Could someone with more web hacker knowledge determine what meta tags or robots.txt is instructing Chrome Browser to behave this way? |
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Mateon1: I'm using a launcher that updates profusely so might be |
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Or maybe it's some sort of Copyright Bit set in the jpg image metadata/exif |
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I have Version 78.0.3904.87 (Official Build) (64-bit) |
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I wonder if maybe Developer Builds could also be exempt? heh |
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Mateon1 |
https://cs.chromium.org/chromium/src/components/download/public/common/download_interrupt_reason_values.h?q=%22Download+Failed%22+Blocked&sq=package:chromium&l=46&dr=C |
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Mateon1 |
"The file was blocked due to local policy." |
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say the what what. i have no such policies configured, no antivirus, no restrictions enabled. |
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https://cs.chromium.org/chromium/src/chrome/browser/supervised_user/supervised_user_service.cc?l=622 - There are download blacklisting features |
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Yeah, I've seen 2 different types of download blacklisting (which i'd disabled -- "suspicious sites") but even then the Downloads page lets you override this per-item. |
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These new blocks do not allow an override from the Downloads page |
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Raccoon |
This has to be some new form of anti-piracy crucade |
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https://cs.chromium.org/chromium/src/chrome/browser/supervised_user/supervised_user_service.cc?type=cs&q=OnBlacklistDownloadDone&g=0&l=575 - "Downloads a static blacklist containing of hostname hashes of common inappropriate websites. This is only enabled for child accounts and only if the corresponding setting is enabled by the parent." - This is almost certainly wrong. |
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https://cs.chromium.org/chromium/src/chrome/browser/supervised_user/supervised_user_service.cc?q=LoadBlacklist&l=519&dr=C - This mentions safe browsing mode, and seems to be related to the same feature. |
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Wait, I'm confused, does safe browsing mean SFW sites or malware protection? |
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Meroje |
do you use uBlock ? https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/issues/2813 |
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Meroje |
not actually related, it is on the easylist block |
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Safe browsing is malware etc. Or whatever Google deems to be malware. There have been various cases of sites getting blocked without actual malware involved. |
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Meroje |
the download is listed as blocked by ublock in its own logger |
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Raccoon |
So yes, I do have uBlock, but no, it's not causing site blockage. The uBlock script seems to prevent some redirects on that site. I still cannot download that address with uBlock completely disabled. |
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Raccoon |
What sort of technology might the website be using to frustrate "downloads", and make them distinct from direct view (no referer) |
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Raccoon |
Does Chrome actually announce the type of resource viewing/downloading the user is conducting? |
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JAA |
I doubt that. It probably doesn't even make a second request for the download since it'd already be in cache. |
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JAA |
There's nothing in the headers, but I've also never heard of any header that could cause something like that. |
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that's why I was wondering if it's a robots.txt sorta thang |
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JAA |
This should be something out-of-band, similar to safe browsing but with a different intent. |
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Raccoon |
Ok so, I CAN download this in Incognito mode, but I can't download it in normal mode, even with uBlock disabled. |
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Raccoon |
I'm stumped |
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Meroje |
as soon as I disabled ublock from the addons page it worked, safebrowsing site shows it as green |
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Raccoon |
I found the easylist entry: ||vectorstock.com^*/tracking |
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Raccoon |
That shouldn't(?) be affecting the display (doesn't) or direct-download (does) of the link: https://cdn4.vectorstock.com/i/1000x1000/00/93/of-thief-vector-23180093.jpg |
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Raccoon |
easyprivacy/easyprivacy_specific.txt @ https://github.com/easylist/easylist/search?q=vectorstock&unscoped_q=vectorstock |
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i found removing easyprivacy from uBlock doesn't change behavior, so it's not that entry. maybe something built into uBlock's built-in blockers |
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you're right though, completely disabling the addon does enable chrome to download the link again. so I'll /end and consult uBlock peep |
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godane |
looks like there was a problem with recording this episode of Asia Insight: https://archive.org/details/KCSM_20141106_023000_Asia_Insight/start/0/end/60 |
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there is no audio that i can hear |