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When you compare motion pictures with very high rankings on IMDB (high vote counts w/ high score) from the 1950's through 1990's, and spot which ones are still not out on Bluray, you get a feel for the political climate in Hollywood and which pictures they wish never existed (and hope to erase from history). |
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And github isn't having a fun time right now... |
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ok that works, minus that cookies are going to be in the warc header |
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perhaps still to mention since cookies will always be in the request header ? |
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icedice: Is that the double-wide two disk drive? |
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It's 1 bay |
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i can't comment on the european market. seems a bit much as an American. |
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There's also Western Digital 12 TB Elements Desktop for 269,99€ |
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That's very cheap in Europe |
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That's the price they charge for a 10TB drive in Finland |
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personally, I lean towards the 2.5" drives, even though they're only 5TB, because they offer greater portability, smaller size, less noise and heat, no external power needed. |
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Should I get one My Book + Elements or My Book x 2? |
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I want to use one drive as backup drive |
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Amazon price fluctuates between $110 and $125 this month for the 5TB. |
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I started thinking that having both backup drives of the same model and probably the same batch might not be a good idea |
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* Edit: having both the main drive and the backup drive |
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All depends on your situation. Private unique data backup, or media archive backup? |
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Both |
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Will probably be more of media archive though |
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Since my private data fits on the drives I have now |
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Given that media archive is basically write-once and doesn't need to be so great |
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fewer updates, less speed required |
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private data, multiple redundencies like raid, cloud, offsite is ideal |
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icedice |
There is no privacy friendly online backup service that has decent pricing |
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i backup my data on my next door neighbor's computer, and vice versa |
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Raccoon |
via wifi |
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icedice |
So I'm mostly hoping for ProtonBackup/ProtonDrive |
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icedice |
Just drill a cable through the wall lol |
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Raccoon |
well, physically separated and immune from fire |
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icedice |
It's a joke lol |
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icedice |
If either of you rent then the landlord wouldn't allow it anyway |
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Raccoon |
i've drilled holes through walls to lan party with apartment neighbors :) |
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icedice |
Nice |
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icedice |
The risk of getting two WD My Book duds from the same batch should be pretty low, right? |
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I haven't had a dud drive in over 15 years, tbh. |
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Ok, then I'll save 60€ and just get the cheaper My Book x 2 |
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Raccoon |
WD used to be on my avoid-like-the-plague list 20 years ago, but they've turned around |
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icedice |
I didn't know that |
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back when Maxtor was a thing |
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icedice |
I thought that was mostly Seagate |
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icedice |
Ah |
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icedice |
I know about Maxtor |
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I had so many WD fails back at the turn of the century |
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Seagate bought them and started rebranding surplus Maxtor drives as Seagate iirc |
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icedice |
Or was that WD? |
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I think you've got it right |
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icedice |
Yeah |
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Then there was that one 3TB Seagate drive that had something like a 30% annualized failure rate |
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Everything changed when the water nation destroyed Indonesia in 2007(?) |
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Raccoon |
Basically every manufacturing plant was swallowed up |
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icedice |
/r/UnexpectedAvatar |
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icedice |
Thailand |
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Raccoon |
and/or Thailand then |
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icedice |
I think it was in 2011 iirc |
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icedice |
Saudi Aramco buying up every hard drive they could get at the same time didn't help things either |
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icedice |
They got hacked at the same time, so they pulled all of their systems offline |
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I thought it was earlier. I'd just purchased a 2TB for $89 in 2006, and then they doubled in price shortly after. 2TB wouldn't return to $100 for many years |
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icedice |
Suddenly the world's wealthiest corporation was back to using pen, paper, and typewriters |
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Raccoon |
I'm pretty sure there's still a price fixing cabal in place since that flood |
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everyone had to work together, look past their differences etc etc to survive |
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wasn't thailand the ram shortage ? |
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and just doesn't make sense that we haven't seen hybrid SSD-platter drives yet. |
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icedice |
And Backblaze employees and their family members started buying up external HDDs and shucking them to keep their business going |
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Which made the shortage worse |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floods_in_Thailand |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Thailand_floods#Damages_to_industrial_estates_and_global_supply_shortages |
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"Please note these instructions when using a My Book Duo with 2 slats: |
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icedice |
It is not possible to simply remove one of the hard drives and install it somewhere else |
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icedice |
This means that if the hardware of the housing is defective or a software error occurs in the configuration of the PC, the data stored on the hard disks are most likely lost! |
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For me, the disk in the Windows Disk Management was displayed as no longer assigned and it was then no longer possible to access it. Even if the disks themselves are phasically still in perfect order. Even with 3 different recovery programs it was not possible to save my data. Data backup was actually the reason why I had this case with 2 hard drives in Raid 1 - operation ever increased. And now all data is lost because of it. |
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The reason is that WD also encrypts the data if you have not chosen to encrypt the data. The problem is also well known in the WD community (mainly in the English forum). |
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icedice |
For me, the record was an absolute bad buy because it triggered exactly what I wanted to avoid. That was my third HDD from WD and definitely my last one." |
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icedice |
^ Google translated review |
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Is not having to deal with that worth the 60€ price difference between WD My Book and WD Elements x 2 drives? |
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I guess that explains the reviews and Q&A on the one WD two-disk mybook as having no encryption |
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If your interest is USB-ready drives, I would just buy these as they go on sale. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07X41PWTY/ |
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icedice |
So about $137.68 extra when grabbing two 12TB WD Elements instead of two 12TB My Books |
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Introduced about 4 or 5 weeks ago, and reasonably close to the best-bang-for-buck, with the added functional bonuses I described earlier with a 2.5" drive |
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I would wait til black friday to buy HDDs |
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aye |
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Raccoon |
they just raised the price from $109 to $129 yesterday |
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Then they are going to lower the price and call it a sale. |
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Raccoon |
torra torra torra https://camelcamelcamel.com/product/B07X41PWTY |
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oh wow, they had them at $90 for one day |
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I'd have bought 3 |
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icedice |
Amazon.de has Black Friday week sales right now |
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icedice |
That WD My Book 12TB is one of them |
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icedice |
And the offer expires in 2 hours, so I jumped on it |
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I assumed that the encryption thing ment that the drive came with optional encryption for sensitive data storage or something like that |
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Not like they locked down data like some mad men |
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WD Elements 10TB x 2 from that local retailer: 451,80€ |
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icedice |
WD Elements 12TB from Amazon.de: 562,66€ |
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icedice |
So about $497.51 for 10TB x 2 vs about $619.46 for 12TB x 2 |
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Raccoon |
I am so sorry your dollar is so weak :) |
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Raccoon |
I could probably mail them to you for cheaper and we all get rich |
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icedice |
That's all right, it evens out since we have affordable healthcare and education |
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Raccoon |
heh |
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icedice |
People getting 1000€ worth of cancer meds for 6€ has to come from somewhere |
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Raccoon |
Education is free -- YouTube :) |
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icedice |
Good luck putting "I watch a lot of LinusTechTips" on a resume lol |
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The classroom is just a daycare boarding school for kids with abscentee parents |
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Raccoon |
oh, you get free college? |
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icedice |
Yeah |
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icedice |
I'm attending one for free |
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Raccoon |
merit based free, or "i like turtles" free? |
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icedice |
"i like turtles" |
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icedice |
We also get monthly housing and studying grants |
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that's a shame, because "i like turtles" classmates drag down the entire curriculum :/ |
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Which is enough to cover rent where I live |
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icedice |
And zero interest study loans of 2600€ per term that you have like 10-14 years to pay back |
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icedice |
And if you finish your education within the planned timeframe you don't have to pay back 30% of the loan |
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icedice |
Something like that |
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icedice |
They were a bit too giving a while back though |
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And allowed exchange students free college |
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College is mostly free in the U.S. if you are a good student and navigate the waters. Several states have scholarships to entice students to stay in state, and just about everyone offers free-ride scholarships to women, mothers and the underprivileged, even if they have low scores, but especially if they have high marks. |
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icedice |
They eventually noticed that a lot of them just went back to their own countries after getting their education and few stayed in Finland to become tax payers |
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Raccoon |
People who pay ridiculus sums for an education do so willingly |
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icedice |
So they started charging exchange students money for attending college a few years ago |
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icedice |
Are you saying that a $150 000 liberal arts degree is not worth it? |
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programme |
it's worth more than a $150 000 conservative arts degree |
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icedice |
There seems to be a shortage of conservative artists though |
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I'm saying that people who sign up for $150,000 liberal arts degrees are privileged idiots who can't really amount to anything anyway |
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they're better off buying a pony |
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icedice |
So wouldn't that drive up the worth according to the logics of supply and demand? |
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Probably yeah |
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If you're good enough to get a job at Google or Microsoft or even NASA, they'll hire you with a 2 year community college associates degree |
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which will probably run you $1000 said and done |
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it's more about the internships and resume padding anyway |
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this is how Silicon Valley became so "diverse" as it were, with many of the large tech firms aiming at a 50% or less "white" workforce |
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similarly, in the US, you can only get an on-campus (government subsidized; called "work study") job if you qualify as having parents earning below the poverty level. those are about the only campus jobs that exist in most unis. |
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the fed pays up to 3/4 of the wages |
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