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Welp, what a rabbit hole this YouTube video involving Habbo Hotel and crime are mixed together: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiDPTiFHfcs |
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There's a Google Docs document too in the description of all the details in the main body and sources at the end of the file: https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vRheSm_RtqSGhrSRlTdfbf8f3Wzfar0A4vDqf9VRi2PlgEXjiymRCRt49X1ypdFKm_gAbWjVaCjdxyK/pub |
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Could start mining for Habbo Hotel related content to archive; that thing existed since 2000 |
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Larsenv |
so Ryz said about the archive.org book lawsuit: "I mean apparently if the lawsuit is won, the effect would be that IA would never ever do book scanning services again - which is one of IA's major ways of making money to maintain the organization" |
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that would suck if they had to stop doing that |
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Larsenv |
are they scanning books where the copyright still hasn't expired? |
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Keep in mind that I don't know the ins and outs of that said lawsuit so, and I'm fairly preoccupied just doing stuff in #archivebot and other stuff outside of AT~ |
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yeah |
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and JAA do people talk in this channel much? Whenever I open up my IRC client I usually don't see much |
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Larsenv |
to my knowledge |
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Depends on whether anyone has anything to say. |
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this channel is kind of dead so that's probably why I was inclined to talk in #AB |
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#archivebot |
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Most our channels are dead most of the time. |
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not #archivebot? |
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But when there's something of relevance to that channel, it becomes active again. |
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That's how IRC has worked since the 80s. |
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I think my ZNC doesn't always pull all the messages from when my client has closed |
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ig so |
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Ah yeah, ZNC, had that pleasure before. |
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Ryz |
I very occasionally post something good that I found relating to archiving worth sharing here :p |
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JAA: do you use ZNC? |
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...Or say my annoyances of like a Halloween-themed Wordpress blog that got nuked ;-; |
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Not anymore, thankfully. |
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What do you use now? |
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irssi |
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Larsenv |
does that function like a bouncer? |
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godane |
so my manualsbase.com grab is going well |
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I think you can use it like that, but I've never tried. |
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I just run it in tmux on a server and connect to it over SSH. |
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From my reading of the lawsuit, is that they'll make IA stop scanning in-copyright books, but it was very dry reading so... |
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ew |
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turns out i will have some old canon video camera manuals soon |
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kiska: if archive.org gets money from scanning books, I wonder if they'll still get money by scanning books in the public domain, if there's enough of them |
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JAA |
I'm a terminal person anyway, so it's really no different from running a CLI client locally and connecting to a bouncer. |
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yeah I like having the GUI client |
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Ew, GUIs |
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:-) |
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you do you |
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I thought IA was exempt from that part of copyright law due to being a library? |
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https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/943242767 Filing 990 for 2018 suggests IA derives most of its ~60% of its income from donations |
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Cause, you know, collecting books and preserving them by scanning (or previously microfiche etc.) is kind of what libraries do. |
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Are they actually attacking the scanning, not the distribution of scans? |
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I believe its the distribution |
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Since "unlimited" loans is the problem, Controlled Digital Lending I believe wasn't a problem with the 1 to 1 lending |
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But when IA removed the 1 to 1 ratio |
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Right, that's what I'd expect. |
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Also IANAL :D |
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schbirid |
ILIKEANAL |
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If it's that, it's not really surprising, and it makes me wonder whether IA provoked the publishers on purpose to get a court decision on some fundamental questions about the digital world and libraries. |
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so it doesn't function like a regular library? |
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Or well, maybe not "on purpose" but knew this would come. |
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:D |
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I'm sad that nobody came up with an expansion of "ILIKEANAL" yet, apparently. |
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:D |
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Mateon1 |
Hey, I'm looking into archiving Youtube comments. I've participated in the Youtube Annotations archival project, but the only big community moved to matrix which I can't easily access right now. |