[00:06] *** BlueMax has joined #archiveteam-ot [00:57] Welp, what a rabbit hole this YouTube video involving Habbo Hotel and crime are mixed together: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiDPTiFHfcs [00:58] There's a Google Docs document too in the description of all the details in the main body and sources at the end of the file: https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vRheSm_RtqSGhrSRlTdfbf8f3Wzfar0A4vDqf9VRi2PlgEXjiymRCRt49X1ypdFKm_gAbWjVaCjdxyK/pub [01:01] Could start mining for Habbo Hotel related content to archive; that thing existed since 2000 [01:28] *** britmob has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [01:31] *** britmob has joined #archiveteam-ot [01:44] *** icedice has quit IRC (Leaving) [01:53] *** HP_Archiv has joined #archiveteam-ot [03:03] *** qw3rty__ has joined #archiveteam-ot [03:10] *** qw3rty_ has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [03:55] *** DogsRNice has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [06:03] *** igloo2527 has quit IRC (Quit: 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ephemer0l has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [17:53] *** MaximeleG has quit IRC (Quit: MaximeleG) [19:12] so Ryz said about the archive.org book lawsuit: "I mean apparently if the lawsuit is won, the effect would be that IA would never ever do book scanning services again - which is one of IA's major ways of making money to maintain the organization" [19:12] that would suck if they had to stop doing that [19:13] are they scanning books where the copyright still hasn't expired? [19:13] Keep in mind that I don't know the ins and outs of that said lawsuit so, and I'm fairly preoccupied just doing stuff in #archivebot and other stuff outside of AT~ [19:13] yeah [19:14] and JAA do people talk in this channel much? Whenever I open up my IRC client I usually don't see much [19:14] to my knowledge [19:15] Depends on whether anyone has anything to say. [19:15] this channel is kind of dead so that's probably why I was inclined to talk in #AB [19:15] #archivebot [19:15] Most our channels are dead most of the time. [19:15] not #archivebot? [19:16] But when there's something of relevance to that channel, it becomes active again. [19:16] That's how IRC has worked since the 80s. [19:16] I think my ZNC doesn't always pull all the messages from when my client has closed [19:16] ig so [19:16] Ah yeah, ZNC, had that pleasure before. [19:17] I very occasionally post something good that I found relating to archiving worth sharing here :p [19:18] JAA: do you use ZNC? [19:18] ...Or say my annoyances of like a Halloween-themed Wordpress blog that got nuked ;-; [19:18] Not anymore, thankfully. [19:18] What do you use now? [19:18] irssi [19:19] does that function like a bouncer? [19:19] so my manualsbase.com grab is going well [19:19] I think you can use it like that, but I've never tried. [19:19] I just run it in tmux on a server and connect to it over SSH. [19:19] From my reading of the lawsuit, is that they'll make IA stop scanning in-copyright books, but it was very dry reading so... [19:19] ew [19:19] turns out i will have some old canon video camera manuals soon [19:20] kiska: if archive.org gets money from scanning books, I wonder if they'll still get money by scanning books in the public domain, if there's enough of them [19:20] I'm a terminal person anyway, so it's really no different from running a CLI client locally and connecting to a bouncer. [19:21] yeah I like having the GUI client [19:21] Ew, GUIs [19:22] :-) [19:22] you do you [19:23] I thought IA was exempt from that part of copyright law due to being a library? [19:24] https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/943242767 Filing 990 for 2018 suggests IA derives most of its ~60% of its income from donations [19:24] Cause, you know, collecting books and preserving them by scanning (or previously microfiche etc.) is kind of what libraries do. [19:25] Are they actually attacking the scanning, not the distribution of scans? [19:25] I believe its the distribution [19:25] Since "unlimited" loans is the problem, Controlled Digital Lending I believe wasn't a problem with the 1 to 1 lending [19:26] But when IA removed the 1 to 1 ratio [19:26] Right, that's what I'd expect. [19:27] Also IANAL :D [19:28] ILIKEANAL [19:28] If it's that, it's not really surprising, and it makes me wonder whether IA provoked the publishers on purpose to get a court decision on some fundamental questions about the digital world and libraries. [19:28] so it doesn't function like a regular library? [19:29] Or well, maybe not "on purpose" but knew this would come. [19:29] :D [19:30] I'm sad that nobody came up with an expansion of "ILIKEANAL" yet, apparently. 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#archiveteam-ot [23:58] *** HCross has joined #archiveteam-ot [23:59] Hey, I'm looking into archiving Youtube comments. I've participated in the Youtube Annotations archival project, but the only big community moved to matrix which I can't easily access right now.