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Anywhere.) [13:48] *** Terbium has joined #archiveteam-ot [15:25] *** Arcorann has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:43] *** systwi has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [16:30] *** systwi has joined #archiveteam-ot [16:30] *** Maylay has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:34] *** Maylay has joined #archiveteam-ot [17:24] if a programmer writes a bot, and he dies, but the bot still is running for over 1 year, do you think, in some way, that the programmer has extended his life 1 year? [17:25] how about if the bot is running 5 years later? [17:26] it's different to write a book, and your thoughts are "teleported" to centuries later when something read your book [17:27] you can code the bot to interact with a world where you aren't anymore [17:27] I don't know who first said the quote about dying twice, but I guess it would be appropriate to extend it here: you die three times; once when your heart/brain stops, once when the things you did in your lifetime stop working, and finally when someone thinks of you for the last time. [17:28] yeah somehow [17:31] somebody could create a place where this kind of bots run, and are maintained, etc [17:35] But if someone else maintains it, does the original creator still really live on in that sense? [17:37] maintained as in keeping the bot running (paying the server bills, updating the Python version or whatever, etc) [17:38] Yeah, but then eventually things break on the Python upgrades, so the code needs to be modified slightly, etc. [17:38] At what point does the original creator die? [17:38] well, that's philosophy... :p [17:39] I mean, the entire discussion is. :-P [17:40] he dies when the bot stops running, and resucitates if somebody re-launch the bot [17:41] but what i am trying to say, it's that you can interact with this world even after you die, if you code the bot skillfully [17:41] it can manage your social networks, your wikipedia account, your email... [17:44] for example, simple things: you can code a message for your relatives in their birthdays, christmas, etc [17:46] though, that can affect them psychologically [17:47] it depends on the person [17:52] would you like to receive, read and reply to messages coded from dead relatives? [17:52] coded by* [17:55] Personally, I'd find that to be quite disconcerting. [18:00] it is, we do it in some way when we read old letters or look at a pic, but this way it would be more real [18:01] you can talk to him/her when you need, and forget about it for long periods [18:04] But this would hypothetically be entirely unprompted, yeah? [18:04] If I read a letter or look at a picture, it's most likely intentional, getting a message out of the blue from someone's old bot? [18:04] Very different in my eyes. [18:05] Yeah, but you can find your old letters accidentally too [18:05] The bot could have an opt-out option [18:05] etc etc [18:06] you still can filter Uncle Joe bot emails to spam, if you want of course [18:14] there was this service which would send a message to future you [18:15] i wonder if it's still up [18:17] futureme.org? can't remember [18:27] yeah, and you can schedule tweets now on twitter, until 2022 [18:31] *** Mateon1 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [18:31] *** Mateon1 has joined #archiveteam-ot [18:40] Aoede: Yeah, something like that still exists, saw it mentioned somewhere recently. [18:41] i think that is a very primitive mind-uploading, you type some thoughts and schedule them [18:57] yeah that's definitively the one. 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