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VoynichCr |
if a programmer writes a bot, and he dies, but the bot still is running for over 1 year, do you think, in some way, that the programmer has extended his life 1 year? |
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VoynichCr |
how about if the bot is running 5 years later? |
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VoynichCr |
it's different to write a book, and your thoughts are "teleported" to centuries later when something read your book |
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VoynichCr |
you can code the bot to interact with a world where you aren't anymore |
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JAA |
I don't know who first said the quote about dying twice, but I guess it would be appropriate to extend it here: you die three times; once when your heart/brain stops, once when the things you did in your lifetime stop working, and finally when someone thinks of you for the last time. |
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VoynichCr |
yeah somehow |
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VoynichCr |
somebody could create a place where this kind of bots run, and are maintained, etc |
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JAA |
But if someone else maintains it, does the original creator still really live on in that sense? |
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VoynichCr |
maintained as in keeping the bot running (paying the server bills, updating the Python version or whatever, etc) |
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JAA |
Yeah, but then eventually things break on the Python upgrades, so the code needs to be modified slightly, etc. |
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JAA |
At what point does the original creator die? |
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VoynichCr |
well, that's philosophy... :p |
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JAA |
I mean, the entire discussion is. :-P |
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VoynichCr |
he dies when the bot stops running, and resucitates if somebody re-launch the bot |
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VoynichCr |
but what i am trying to say, it's that you can interact with this world even after you die, if you code the bot skillfully |
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VoynichCr |
it can manage your social networks, your wikipedia account, your email... |
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VoynichCr |
for example, simple things: you can code a message for your relatives in their birthdays, christmas, etc |
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VoynichCr |
though, that can affect them psychologically |
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VoynichCr |
it depends on the person |
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VoynichCr |
would you like to receive, read and reply to messages coded from dead relatives? |
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VoynichCr |
coded by* |
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Jake4 |
Personally, I'd find that to be quite disconcerting. |
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VoynichCr |
it is, we do it in some way when we read old letters or look at a pic, but this way it would be more real |
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VoynichCr |
you can talk to him/her when you need, and forget about it for long periods |
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Jake4 |
But this would hypothetically be entirely unprompted, yeah? |
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Jake4 |
If I read a letter or look at a picture, it's most likely intentional, getting a message out of the blue from someone's old bot? |
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Jake4 |
Very different in my eyes. |
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VoynichCr |
Yeah, but you can find your old letters accidentally too |
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VoynichCr |
The bot could have an opt-out option |
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VoynichCr |
etc etc |
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VoynichCr |
you still can filter Uncle Joe bot emails to spam, if you want of course |
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Aoede |
there was this service which would send a message to future you |
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Aoede |
i wonder if it's still up |
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Aoede |
futureme.org? can't remember |
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VoynichCr |
yeah, and you can schedule tweets now on twitter, until 2022 |
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JAA |
Aoede: Yeah, something like that still exists, saw it mentioned somewhere recently. |
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VoynichCr |
i think that is a very primitive mind-uploading, you type some thoughts and schedule them |
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Aoede |
yeah that's definitively the one. I remember using it |
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