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SketchCow |
People are weird. |
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SketchCow |
When I invited a bunch of people to the Internet Archive Discord (Unofficial) to prove a point that opening it up generally was a bad idea, the point got proved quickly. |
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SketchCow |
But as one said, "This is terrible news. Cloudflare Is Bad For The Net." |
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SketchCow |
OK, well |
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SketchCow |
If you haven't figured it out yet, IA wants one thing: Global awareness of URLs that are part of the social fabric, the use of actual people using the web to look at things, especially things of great interest or consequence or potential fragility. |
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SketchCow |
We're using a whole range of ways to do that re: wayback. |
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SketchCow |
One of them is twitter. Follow every link we can and archive them as they're mentioned. Since twitter is a fucking shitshow, that way is quality-variant |
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SketchCow |
Another is to grab every outbound link from wikipedia at time of mention. |
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SketchCow |
That's worked out better. |
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SketchCow |
And so on. |
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SketchCow |
So this cloudflare thing is more "we get notified of every page on the net that is getting so much activity that cloudflare is involved or has been brought in" |
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SketchCow |
I have no time for "cloudflare is baaaaaaaaaaad for the net" |
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Samizdat |
Speaking of the IA, Sketch, I hate to borrow from the Outlaw Jimmy Wales, but would you consider a more neutral point of view name for collections whose outlook differs from yours, something other than "Off-center" or "Fringe?" |
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SketchCow |
This is us LITERALLY OPENING THE NET |
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SketchCow |
What |
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SketchCow |
Ah. |
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SketchCow |
No. |
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Why |
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SketchCow |
Oh, I probably shouldn't say "Why". That implies you're going to drop a bit of argument in the hopes that it will move the needle. |
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SketchCow |
Nah, wait, what the fuck |
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Samizdat |
Or consider naming collections with a Left bent "Left-of-Center" or "Kooky?" |
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SketchCow |
Oh yeah, you're the one |
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SketchCow |
Weren't you the one concerned Archive Team was a left-leaning organization? |
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Samizdat |
Probably. |
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SketchCow |
Also, call me Jason. |
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SketchCow |
My friends call me Sketch |
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SketchCow |
I got a bunch of laughs off your statement |
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SketchCow |
Anyway, Sanqui and Ryz had questions about Cloudflare thing good or bad, and I'm saying all my indications are from an internal point, good. If there's some evil inherent in the Cloudflare organization, I am not aware of it affecting IA any more than evil within a radio show being something affecting our radio archive. |
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SketchCow |
So is this the future, Samizdat - can I expect a hilarious suggestion out of you every two weeks |
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JAA |
I mean, both statements can be true. Cloudflare can be terrible for the internet and still be a good source for IA/WBM. |
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SketchCow |
Correct |
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SketchCow |
Same with twitter |
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SketchCow |
Excellent source of URLs, with some filtering, absolutely destroying the fabric of society |
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"left" |
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Samizdat |
t minus 5 h 13 m to tipoff of Asswhooppin' 2.0 in Flawida. |
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Samizdat |
tipoff at the Lakers game |
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Frogging |
guess I'd better finally connect to Hackint |
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superkuh |
I'm one of the "cloudflare bad" dudes and even I can't see how anything but good can come from getting URLs from them. |
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Ryz |
I'm wondering if that means potential bypass of Cloudflare's Captcha stuff for the archiving operations here |
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Jake |
I bet IA's bots probably get some sort of exemption? Or maybe they are put on the "good bot list" of CF? https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/360027519452-Understanding-Cloudflare-Bot-Management |
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