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[14:14] *** dashcloud has joined #archiveteam-ot [14:33] *** BlueMax has quit IRC (Leaving) [14:49] *** Stilett0 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:49] *** Stilett0 has joined #archiveteam-ot [15:14] *** dashcloud has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:23] *** dashcloud has joined #archiveteam-ot [16:33] *** dashcloud has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [16:42] *** dashcloud has joined #archiveteam-ot [17:56] *** Arctic has joined #archiveteam-ot [18:02] wow elon musk [18:05] what's he doing [18:05] did tweets get deleted? I don't see anything too bad [18:25] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1018497953051258880 :D [18:26] Oooof! [18:26] TL;DR please. [18:26] PR is going to have a fun time cleaning that up [18:36] *** Arctic has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) [18:36] *** kiskaLap has joined #archiveteam-ot [18:41] *** kiskaLap has quit IRC (Client Quit) [19:01] ah i see [19:34] Pedo Relations [19:36] *** dashcloud has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [19:38] *** apache2 has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [19:38] *** apache2 has joined #archiveteam-ot [19:40] *** dashcloud has joined #archiveteam-ot [20:48] *** schbirid has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [20:48] *** Stilett0 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [20:48] *** Stilett0 has joined #archiveteam-ot [20:51] *** dashcloud has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [20:52] *** SoniEx2 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [21:10] *** ta9le has joined #archiveteam-ot [21:13] *** apache2 has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [21:13] *** apache2 has joined #archiveteam-ot [21:18] *** dashcloud has joined #archiveteam-ot [21:35] *** flashfloo has joined #archiveteam-ot [21:35] JAA I figured this convo was best had here [21:36] Yeah apple reached the Australian education system first hence a lot of Australian schools only have apple products [21:36] My school does offer chrome books but I would rather run MacOS [21:36] Surely they can't force you to use Apple though? [21:37] They can’t force us but they won’t hook anything not apple up to the wifi [21:37] And that's legal? [21:37] Or has it just not been challenged yet? [21:37] Strangely enough yes [21:37] Not been challenged by someone with enough money [21:37] Right [21:37] Not sure one of them [21:38] I mean the alternative is a gimped chrome book with restrictions by the education department. [21:38] I’d rather try and install a custom Linux OS on my MacBook than run chromium stuff again [21:39] I only use Google Chrome because Firefox doesn’t connect properly with our proxies [21:40] Meaning? [21:40] Meaning we run eduroam which is run by the Australian government [21:40] Customised for each school [21:40] My IT department blocked Firefox [21:41] They want us to use Safari but I have found most things work with chrome [21:41] Uh, is that a different eduroam than the one I know from European universities? [21:41] Because the eduroam we have here has absolutely nothing to do with the browser. [21:42] Well our IT department has done something with the internet in that Firefox only runs into errors [21:42] It's just a wireless network where authentication happens through your university's servers. You connect with a username of name@university.example.org and your university's password, then you get a direct connection. [21:42] Chrome works fine but occasionally needs to be rebooted [21:43] There is an additional blocker on it then. Opera worked for about 10 minutes then kicked me out i can’t connect with that anymore [21:43] We use smoothwall to block any sites that the school doesn’t want us to have access to [21:43] I cut a deal with the department a while ago [21:44] If I feed them sites every now and again they ignore all the flags that come up during my browsing [21:44] Every time you try and access a blocked site you get a flag against your name [21:44] At last count I have surpassed 10000 [21:46] I am reduced to using mibbit for IRC which I have my IT department at a standstill connecting using a university IRC connection [21:46] Underworld.no I think [21:46] They can’t block it cause technically it’s an education network [21:48] JAA that’s also why I often need to be revoiced at school. [21:48] All of this sounds fucking awful. What a shithole country. ;-) [21:49] Didn’t your country survive by staying neutral 24/7 ;-) [21:49] I always thought eduroam was a UK thing, that expanded to EU//wherever else [21:49] idk [21:49] But internet laws are shit [21:50] Eduroam for us is probably an offshoot of that. Tells me I can connect to any eduroam network across the globe [21:50] Ironically the blocking of browsers only works on my schools network. I connect to other eduroam networks and use Firefox just fine [21:50] Kaz: Apparently founded by institutions from several European countries. [21:51] "The first non-European country to join eduroam was Australia, in December 2004." [21:51] Yeah, I only have experience with JANET in the UK so not sure how I got that idea really [21:52] flashfloo: Well, if we're going down that route, your country only exists because the British wanted to get rid of their criminals (or whoever they considered criminal/undesired), so... :-) [21:53] I mean the land mass was always there. But yeah what we call Australia now started from a penal colony. [21:54] So btw if you lot have any obscure browsers or free VPNs or even IRC workarounds for me to try let me know [21:55] I wonder if The Lounge would run on my school network [21:55] School holidays are over now so I may as well try [21:56] The school used to block internet for people with to many flags against there names but I feed enough info to the IT department to have a bit more freedom [21:56] Well, The Lounge is just another IRC client, so probably yes. I doubt you'd be able to connect to it from the outside though unless you set up something outside the school network. [21:57] Hm I will have to look into it [21:57] Also any browsers to recommend. Cause I want to mess with the department a bit on my first day back. Keep them on there toes. [21:58] their* [21:58] Sorry [21:59] I've been using Firefox exclusively for 12 years or so, so I'm definitely the wrong person for that question. [22:00] That’s fine. I use chrome on my laptop often more cause I forget I can use Firefox at home. I only have Firefox on my desktop though [22:01] I'm not very happy about how Firefox evolved over the past few years, so I'm playing with the idea of trying to switch to Chromium, but that probably won't happen. [22:02] I'd love to switch to FF, but tree style tabs decides to die on me after ~50 tabs or so, consistently [22:02] it's a shame [22:02] I like the chromium style I just don’t like the idea of google spying on me [22:02] I had a friend that used Palemoon but I don’t think it’s been updated for a while [22:04] Kaz: Huh, I have no problems with TST even at hundreds of tabs. I'm still on version 52 though because migrating to the WebExtensions is a pain in some cases. [22:05] it's been a while since I've tried if I'm honest, but it would just sort of lock itself up as if it was trying to... reload itself? [22:05] Well, not "no problems", but nothing significant. There are some small bugs like it not opening new tabs at the right level (child instead of sibling). [22:06] restarting FF never resolved it, and it'd sort itself out after ~10 minutes.. during which time you can't change tabs using it [22:06] Interesting [22:07] I use chrome. I have extensions that are convenient and my details have been sold to a Lebanese trucking company [22:18] Opera [22:18] * HCross ducks [22:24] 😂 [22:24] * flashfloo throws something at ducked HCross [22:26] Anyone else? [22:27] I've been meaning to give Brave a shot. [22:27] I’ll try that one out that’s the one that’s all privacy oriented so they say yeah I [22:28] I used Mercury browser on my phone for a while which was good but don’t honk it has a desktop release [22:42] I use Brave all the time. [22:42] It boots up a tor node, so be aware of that, freaked me out [22:46] Relay, I hope? [22:46] Or just a connection to the Tor network? [22:47] Yeah, the former wouldn't really make any sense. Disregard that. I should probably go to bed anyway. [22:55] I have no idea [23:08] *** djsundog has quit IRC (The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat) [23:13] *** flashfire has joined #archiveteam-ot [23:13] hey kiska what was that relay you had set up? The Lounge didnt work [23:14] *** Soni has joined #archiveteam-ot [23:43] *** BlueMax has joined #archiveteam-ot [23:46] How do I check metadata on applications?