#archiveteam-ot 2019-05-20,Mon

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00:13 πŸ”— kpcyrd is there a way to figure out which tweet contains a specific t.co link?
00:14 πŸ”— JAA You can search for the t.co link on Twitter I think.
00:15 πŸ”— JAA If the tweet has been deleted or is for some other reason unsearchable, there's probably no way.
00:15 πŸ”— JAA Random example: https://twitter.com/search?q=https%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FhqqEE5BX0N&src=typd
00:16 πŸ”— kpcyrd got it to work, the "https://" part was mandatory. thanks!
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12:47 πŸ”— JAA "of it's users" *twitch*
12:48 πŸ”— kiska lol
12:49 πŸ”— Flashfire Basically you use Hola and you become a node for traffic
12:49 πŸ”— JAA I'm not surprised though. People don't read, and IT literacy of teenagers has decreased massively in the past 1-2 decades.
12:50 πŸ”— Flashfire I’m guilty of read TOS after I accept them but I usually try and read them eventually
12:50 πŸ”— Igloo Any university not doing deep packet inspection
12:50 πŸ”— Igloo on the edge firewalls needs to be shot.
12:50 πŸ”— Igloo It's *SO* cheap now.
12:51 πŸ”— Flashfire No no no we let the students shoot the people
12:51 πŸ”— * Flashfire hides
12:52 πŸ”— justas Why do you that IT literacy is declining in teens? My opinion is that it is just too easy, you can pretend that it is a black scary box that you should not touch or look in too.
12:53 πŸ”— JAA Yup, precisely.
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12:54 πŸ”— Igloo "it just works"
12:54 πŸ”— Igloo there is little to no appreciation on how or why
12:54 πŸ”— Igloo And it's always someone else's problem
12:54 πŸ”— Flashfire I read the Terms of service after I agree to it then think β€œdamn I’m stupid off signing that” I still think one of my favourites is that Apple devices May not be turned into Nukes
12:54 πŸ”— Igloo Bit like how car mechanics are
12:54 πŸ”— Flashfire Lol
12:55 πŸ”— Flashfire I fixed it. β€œDid you look at the manual?
12:55 πŸ”— Flashfire There was a manual?
12:56 πŸ”— JAA Flashfire: My favourite was the ToS that contained something like "If you find this, let us know and you'll get $1000". I think it went unnoticed for a year.
12:57 πŸ”— Flashfire Yeah that was good as well like over 500 other people had agreed to it before this one guy
12:58 πŸ”— JAA There was already one where you signed over your firstborn.
12:58 πŸ”— JAA s/already/also/
12:59 πŸ”— Flashfire Like I wanted them in the first place /s
12:59 πŸ”— JAA https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/07/nobody-reads-tos-agreements-even-ones-that-demand-first-born-as-payment/
13:01 πŸ”— jut JAA: What does this mean "s/already/also/", I have seen you do this multiple times and I still don't know how to parse it
13:02 πŸ”— JAA jut: It's sed syntax for text replacement.
13:02 πŸ”— JAA s = substitute, followed by a delimiter, then the text to match, then the text to put there instead, and (optionally) flags like g for global (= replace all occurrences, not only the first one).
13:02 πŸ”— kiska manual here: https://www.gnu.org/software/sed/manual/sed.html
13:03 πŸ”— kiska I still use it, xD
13:03 πŸ”— JAA sed or the manual? :-P
13:03 πŸ”— zino Igloo, traffic is being inspected.
13:03 πŸ”— kiska Both xD
13:03 πŸ”— JAA You can do pretty cool things with it, but I only ever use substitute.
13:03 πŸ”— JAA I'm also a heavy user of grep and awk.
13:05 πŸ”— zino and the occasional cut. But cut gets used so seldom that a usually fall back to the more heavy handed awk instead of reading up on how cut worked, again.
13:07 πŸ”— JAA Haha, same.
13:14 πŸ”— Igloo zino: then why not drop it, It should be easy enough to find.
13:17 πŸ”— zino Drop traffic to known Hola VPN control points? It's possible someone it doing that now if it's easy enough. I'm not involved in the general infrastructure business thankfully.
13:20 πŸ”— Igloo Doing app inspection etc
13:20 πŸ”— Igloo (I work in network security)
13:22 πŸ”— zino I do not :) What would this "app" inspection do?
13:24 πŸ”— Igloo https://www.ccexpert.us/firewall-config/application-inspection.html
13:24 πŸ”— Igloo Basically, Firewalls look for patterns in the packet stream(s)
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13:30 πŸ”— zino So stateful inspection of streams. That's not going to be cheap on 400Gbit, but also a bit hard to do on a VPN connection.
13:30 πŸ”— zino So we are back to blocking connections to known endpoints unless this particular VPN does handshaking diffrently from other VPNs, right?
13:34 πŸ”— Igloo Depends, there are ways and means of doing it
13:34 πŸ”— Igloo 400Gbit is a lot of bandwidth, But you could always punt new connections to some kind of device for initial checking
13:34 πŸ”— Igloo But it would need a proper design
13:36 πŸ”— zino A lot of it could probably just be ignored as coming from network with minimal chance of having student or professors with macbooks on them, but if I never have to deal with that headache it's too soon. :)
13:54 πŸ”— Igloo I do this for banks and hospitals
13:54 πŸ”— Igloo I drink.
13:54 πŸ”— Igloo :)
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16:11 πŸ”— astrid <JAA> [...] IT literacy of teenagers has decreased massively in the past 1-2 decades.
16:11 πŸ”— astrid idk uh when i was in high school most everyone was only somewhat computer literate
16:11 πŸ”— astrid i think it's about the same
16:12 πŸ”— astrid you're just older now, so you can see people doing dumb things and say "that's a bad idea..."
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17:25 πŸ”— ealgase computer literacy has always been terrible
17:25 πŸ”— ealgase ~50% of adults can't do a multi-step process on the computer
17:26 πŸ”— Igloo Also, I think phones / apps dumb things down so much
17:26 πŸ”— Igloo "i just tappedy tap here and then thing happens"
17:27 πŸ”— Fusl "i tapped somewhere on the screen and then something happened"
17:41 πŸ”— ealgase yeah
17:41 πŸ”— ealgase people don't think of computers as tools
17:41 πŸ”— ealgase they think of them as a "black box"
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18:15 πŸ”— zino <Igloo> I do this for banks and hospitals
18:15 πŸ”— zino I'm so sorry! Probably pays better than working for education though, so you have that. :)
18:24 πŸ”— Igloo True that.
18:25 πŸ”— Igloo Powershell
18:26 πŸ”— Igloo WHY THE FUCK
18:26 πŸ”— Igloo Does it go "ok, Yeah I did that and no errors"
18:26 πŸ”— Igloo But the object still exists
18:26 πŸ”— Igloo Throw me an error so I can try again if you're too busy
18:26 πŸ”— Igloo WTH
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18:36 πŸ”— schbirid Windows The Hell
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23:38 πŸ”— ealgase opinion: internet archive should improve the comment section
23:38 πŸ”— ealgase (yes, I know archiveteam!=ia)
23:41 πŸ”— ealgase anyway in other off topic things
23:41 πŸ”— ealgase can someone help me with irssi?
23:44 πŸ”— JAA Don't ask to ask; just ask. :-)
23:46 πŸ”— ealgase ok, good
23:46 πŸ”— ealgase how do you leave a DM channel?
23:46 πŸ”— ealgase I can't figure it out
23:47 πŸ”— JAA /window close or the short version /wc (which I think is in the default config)
23:48 πŸ”— ealgase THANK YOU OMG!
23:48 πŸ”— ealgase you are awesome
23:49 πŸ”— JAA I stopped worrying about closing windows a long time ago. I'm up to 122 at the moment.
23:56 πŸ”— ealgase how do you deal with that?
23:57 πŸ”— JAA I have shortcuts for windows 1 to 80 and use /win N for the remaining ones when I need them. Most of those high numbers are inactive query windows though, so I rarely need to switch to them.
23:58 πŸ”— ealgase ah cool
23:58 πŸ”— ealgase what are "query windows"?
23:58 πŸ”— JAA What you called "DM channel" above.
23:59 πŸ”— ealgase ok, makes sense
23:59 πŸ”— JAA The private chat directly with another user is called "query" on IRC.
23:59 πŸ”— ealgase that's an interesting naming convention
23:59 πŸ”— JAA Yeah, no idea where it comes from.

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