#archiveteam-ot 2019-06-07,Fri

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00:00 🔗 JAA At least there's still a chance they might survive, unlike the Northern White Rhino. Only two individuals are left, both female... :-/
00:00 🔗 Flashfire Humans suck
00:00 🔗 JAA Yup
00:01 🔗 Flashfire Thylacine with another one we caused the death of
00:01 🔗 JAA Oh, there are thousands of species that died due to humans.
00:01 🔗 JAA And I bet there are a lot that we never even realised existed in the first place.
00:02 🔗 Flashfire Yep
00:03 🔗 JAA There's a reason why my AB pipelines have those names.
00:03 🔗 Flashfire There was a species that lived in a singular pond that was documented once when people went back to examine the species they found the single pond had been filled in for a hotel or something
00:06 🔗 Flashfire then there is species we have done worse than send them extinct
00:06 🔗 JAA Socorro isopod is a bit similar to that.
00:06 🔗 Flashfire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombyx_mori
00:07 🔗 Flashfire The domesticated form, compared to the wild form, has increased cocoon size, body size, growth rate, and efficiency of its digestion. It has gained tolerance to human presence and handling, and also to living in crowded conditions. The domesticated moth cannot fly, so it needs human assistance in finding a mate, and it lacks fear of potential preda
00:07 🔗 Flashfire tors. The native color pigments are also lost, so the domesticated moths are leucistic since camouflage isn't useful when they only live in captivity. These changes have made the domesticated strains entirely dependent upon humans for survival
00:08 🔗 JAA See also: most other domesticated anminals.
00:08 🔗 JAA animals*
00:09 🔗 Flashfire I mean some could survive in the wild though many breeds would die off
00:09 🔗 JAA Most wouldn't make it far.
00:09 🔗 Flashfire Then there is the Koala
00:09 🔗 Flashfire Natures joke
00:12 🔗 Flashfire a smooth brain
00:12 🔗 Flashfire disease riddled
00:15 🔗 JAA That's just how evolution works. DNA gets mutated, new species forms. If it has serious issues, it goes extinct again after a while. A failed experiment, if you will.
00:18 🔗 Flashfire I mean we tried to save Koalas like 3 times it didnt work
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03:16 🔗 Fusl anyone here archived entire discord servers already and can recommend a tool?
03:16 🔗 Fusl as well as send over instructions on how to use that tool?
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06:57 🔗 Sanqui Fusl: https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Discord and #discard
06:59 🔗 Flashfire except the wiki is down
06:59 🔗 Fusl_ seen that but none of the tools listed there really worked for me as i failed the initial step of getting api access to my discord account
07:02 🔗 Sanqui pullcord works for me. no API access required, you input your password iirc
07:03 🔗 Sanqui doesn't work if you have 2FA enabled though
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07:47 🔗 AlsoJAA sets mode: +o JAA
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14:12 🔗 ivan Fusl_: it's in the HTTP requests now instead of localstorage
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15:03 🔗 anarcat #archiveteam-wonderland next?
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15:03 🔗 anarcat ANYWAYS
15:03 🔗 Igloo Welcome, back channel 72.
15:04 🔗 Igloo So, As I was saying :)
15:04 🔗 anarcat so i'm thinking of making a bot that when you speak in a channel it recursively invites you to an infinite series of channels
15:04 🔗 Igloo I need to go from the case I have to something with > 12 bays in it
15:04 🔗 JAA I'm up to 128 windows in irssi at the moment. :-P
15:04 🔗 anarcat the channel names would be #archiveteam-FOO where FOO is based on a markov chain of the stuff spoken in the channel
15:04 🔗 anarcat it would be fun
15:04 🔗 anarcat :p
15:04 🔗 anarcat JAA: that's just gross :p
15:04 🔗 anarcat i'm at 59 and i think that's stupidly large
15:04 🔗 anarcat i used to keep this < 20
15:04 🔗 anarcat anyways
15:04 🔗 anarcat tor broke me
15:04 🔗 anarcat sooooooooooo
15:05 🔗 Igloo ... How
15:05 🔗 anarcat Igloo: i'd be curious to hear more about such a case
15:05 🔗 JAA I could close half of the windows if I wanted to, but I'm lazy.
15:05 🔗 anarcat Igloo: torproject.org? new job. tons of channels, crazy.
15:05 🔗 JAA Supermicro 90-bay case? :-)
15:05 🔗 anarcat i probably have 15 windows just for tpo
15:05 🔗 anarcat anyways
15:05 🔗 Igloo https://www.xcase.co.uk/collections/4u-rackmount-cases/products/x-case-rm424-pro-24-bay-hotswap-storage-server-case
15:05 🔗 anarcat so yea, i don't want to build a 4U
15:05 🔗 Igloo JAA: Not with the 2.5" drives :P
15:05 🔗 JAA Ah
15:06 🔗 anarcat i mean if i'm going to do that, i'd look at backblaze's pods stuff anyways
15:06 🔗 anarcat with top insertion
15:06 🔗 Igloo Ah sweet, congrats
15:06 🔗 anarcat because if you're going to go there, don't waste space
15:06 🔗 anarcat Igloo: thanks! :)
15:06 🔗 Igloo Yeah, I'm in the UK
15:06 🔗 JAA Uh, actually, SC946ED-R2KJBOD is either 3.5 or 2.5 inch.
15:06 🔗 Igloo Which means all the cool shit is stupidly expensive
15:06 🔗 anarcat so i'm looking at https://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/tower/721/SC721TQ-250B
15:06 🔗 anarcat i don't know how big the 3.5" are now
15:06 🔗 Igloo It's also £9k JAA
15:06 🔗 Igloo I am not made of money :P
15:07 🔗 anarcat i mean how much storage, not the size of course :p
15:07 🔗 JAA You didn't say it has to be cheap. :-P
15:07 🔗 Igloo "Less than a new medium sized hatchback" would be nice.
15:07 🔗 anarcat looks like there are 20TB drives now
15:07 🔗 Igloo You can buy 12TB
15:07 🔗 anarcat so that 4x3.5 could do 40-80TB depending on the raid level of course
15:08 🔗 anarcat i've got 8 right now
15:08 🔗 anarcat so it would take a while to even fill up 12TB :p
15:08 🔗 Igloo 1000W with Input 200 - 240Vac
15:08 🔗 anarcat i can't help but think gthat i would need RAID if i setup multiple drives like this
15:08 🔗 Igloo rofl, So that thing would burn 1kw of energy all the time if being accessed & fully populated
15:08 🔗 JAA 16 TB are widely available by now.
15:08 🔗 JAA I think
15:09 🔗 JAA May depend on your location obviously.
15:09 🔗 JAA But they won't be cheap.
15:09 🔗 Igloo I've got 24TB (usable) in one server, 22TB usable in a synology, 14tb usable in another synology offsite
15:10 🔗 Igloo Many linux iso's :)
15:10 🔗 anarcat heh
15:12 🔗 anarcat ironwolf 16TB are 580$USD at newegg.com
15:12 🔗 anarcat i think the peak price/gb ration is around 8TB now
15:12 🔗 anarcat at least last i checkked
15:13 🔗 JAA Yeah, 8 or 10.
15:13 🔗 Igloo I'm hoping for some 10Tb's to shuck when I go to the states
15:13 🔗 anarcat e.g. they're ~200$ for 8TB
15:13 🔗 anarcat cheapest 10TB at newegg is 220$ refurb
15:14 🔗 anarcat cheapest 8TB is 160$
15:41 🔗 icedice There are 15TB HGST drives
15:42 🔗 icedice Ah, missed that 16TB line
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17:13 🔗 SketchCow Never buy refurb
17:13 🔗 SketchCow Neverrrrr buyyyyyyy refurbbbbbb
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17:25 🔗 astrid refurb hard drives??? what on earth
17:27 🔗 SketchCow Oh, it's definitely a thing
17:27 🔗 SketchCow Has been for at least a decade plus
17:27 🔗 astrid yes but
17:27 🔗 SketchCow But it's best for centers with LOTS of redundancies
17:27 🔗 SketchCow Not end users
17:27 🔗 astrid why would anyone ... oh
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17:27 🔗 astrid yeah if you want to buy a ton of disks and use 20% of it ...
17:27 🔗 SketchCow RAIDs where fuck it, we get lots of things
17:28 🔗 SketchCow I bet it's more like 90%
17:28 🔗 astrid well sure
17:28 🔗 SketchCow But regardless, that's terrible for end users
17:28 🔗 astrid yea
17:29 🔗 mal_ is now known as ma1
17:29 🔗 SketchCow Someone made a small joke on twitter, for me to respond with the joke, I started to copy-past a URL to a PDF elsewhere
17:29 🔗 SketchCow And I went "fuck it, take the whole site"
17:29 🔗 SketchCow So 305 calculator manuals are going into the archive in a collection I just made it
17:35 🔗 SketchCow https://archive.org/details/calculatormanuals is filling now.
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