[00:05] *** BlueMax has joined #archiveteam-ot [00:13] *** Joseph_ has joined #archiveteam-ot [00:14] *** VerifiedJ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [00:57] *** killsushi has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [00:59] *** Stilettoo has joined #archiveteam-ot [01:00] *** Stiletto has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [01:25] *** Dj-Wawa has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) [03:40] *** odemg has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [03:52] *** odemg has joined #archiveteam-ot [04:46] *** nataraj has joined #archiveteam-ot [06:10] *** deevious has joined #archiveteam-ot [07:08] *** m007a83_ is now known as m007a83 [07:27] *** nataraj has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [08:51] *** BlueMax has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [09:59] wifi AP (ASUS RT-AC66U) broke today, in need of a new 5GHz AP. any recommendations? requirements: wall or ceiling mountable, 802.1x radius authentication, should have: perfect openwrt compatibility but not required [12:01] *** Dj-Wawa has joined #archiveteam-ot [12:04] Kaz: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20262316 [12:04] discord is now fully down for me from here as well [12:05] good ol irc largely unaffected by this :D [12:05] oh, Kaz uses irccloud, they wont be able to see that message :( [12:05] Yeah just dropped [12:05] Good route to cloud flare on mobile it seems [12:07] *** kurt has joined #archiveteam-ot [12:07] neat [12:07] we'll do this for now.. [12:08] I may end up just dropping irccloud, the only benefit it gives me is notifications.. could easily spin back back into znc [12:11] i just have weechat on a vultr server connect to efnet directly and then also have that connect to my irccloud and irccloud connect to efnet [12:11] :D [12:11] for anyone else in here wondering why your internet does not work: https://twitter.com/OhNoItsFusl/status/1143117619106652160 [12:13] jusy sayin', this looks totally fine http://xor.meo.ws/c2b03f79/6a8c/4df8/a523/0a7adc93b974.png [12:14] https://status.aws.amazon.com/ [12:14] shouldn't be affecting between regions should it? Unless just an burning-hot link somewhere? [12:16] i cant talk about the technology we use to interconnect regions but yes, it may be affected [12:17] aye, didn't expect you to, assumed that's really the only thing it could be unless someone's gone ahead and announced some more routes [12:17] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20262618 [12:19] well, technically they leak the route towards verizon, verizon isnt doing and filtering on that and just accept them [12:20] otoh, 33154 leaks the route towards 396531 [12:24] yeah, jgc seems to be blaming verizon [12:26] well, verizon is a peering provider for me [12:26] they /are/ allowed to route traffic for me [12:27] there are always two bad parties [12:27] 1. the one leaking the route [12:27] 2. the one accepting the leaked route due to no filtering [12:27] verizon is 2 in that case, ATI is 1 [12:27] nod [12:28] could be back.. [12:28] *** Kaz sets mode: +o kurt [12:30] yes, routes have disappeared since 2019-06-24T12:27:53+00:00.txt [12:32] heh, could you be any more vague? https://status.discordapp.com/incidents/2gztsrksff0v [12:34] lol [12:34] "general internet outage" [12:34] === "fire" [12:34] also [12:34] cloudflare: [12:34] "a Verizon downstream BGP customer is leaking the full table, and some more specific from us and many other providers. " [12:35] can you see what else they're leaking? References to Google + Amazon but I have no view into anything rn [12:35] yeah, one sec [12:36] i have a full table dump made every 5 seconds [12:37] here's the full AS list for prefixes they have leaked: http://xor.meo.ws/3phlIi7qIDIZIsS7RKrkF6eaF3TOAbTt.txt [12:37] ergh [12:37] +\n [12:37] http://xor.meo.ws/s3IALC3Y4uHhKZCVTWwCPyElelqP7RXM.txt [12:37] here you go [12:39] gdamn [12:42] tfw you move to OpenNIC DNS and then suddenly pages start loading hella quicker [12:48] Kaz: https://twitter.com/jdcguy/status/1143138757496987650 [12:48] eientei95: OF COURSE THEY DO [12:53] Fusl: nice [12:53] hadn't clocked the edit yet [12:53] point being [12:53] i am a fucking netops engineer for a reason [12:54] i /can/ clearly see through the fog of bgp [12:54] But can you see through the fog of war? [12:54] teach me senpai [12:55] I did find it weird considering y'know.. data trumps opinion [12:55] eientei95: i can see through the fog of bgp war [12:55] 'this fucknugget AS is announcing prefixes' [12:55] 'no [12:55] 'yes' [12:56] ack [12:56] Kaz: yeah, pretty much that [12:56] I mean didnt they hear of this fancy new technology called filters? [12:56] s/new/old [12:56] s/old/hella old [12:57] Fionera: RPKI [12:57] and others [12:57] and friends [12:57] all too new for the internet [12:57] IPv6? [12:57] waaaaaaaaaay too new [12:58] whats this v6? Isnt X the new shit? [13:00] IPvX? HELL no. [13:01] *** godane has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [13:01] *** godane has joined #archiveteam-ot [13:01] IPX <- the real shit [13:02] oh lol [13:03] http://xor.meo.ws/9d6475be/5017/4405/bff1/9784ed4308a1.png awwwwww [13:05] *** Joseph_ has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:07] *** chungone has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [13:07] *** chungone has joined #archiveteam-ot [13:08] *** kiska has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [13:09] *** benjinsmi has joined #archiveteam-ot [13:09] *** kiska has joined #archiveteam-ot [13:10] *** svchfoo3 sets mode: +o kiska [13:10] *** svchfoo1 sets mode: +o kiska [13:11] *** benjins has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [13:18] i wonder how much of archivebot crawls were affected by this :$ [13:22] lol i can access my discord account through my corp VPN [13:22] everyone is offline [13:22] lol [13:22] do they have a proper routing and dns setup? [13:23] i dunno ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [13:27] * Fionera wants to go home, where proper internet and working routes are [13:34] *** rellem has quit IRC (Quit: Blimey! The Roo's in my sock drawer!) [13:39] Fusl: How could that be detected? [13:39] JAA: hm? [13:40] "how much of archivebot crawls were affected by this" [13:41] check the graph i pasted in the abot channel [13:41] Oh [13:42] :-| [13:43] JAA: rather ":)", they were largely unaffected by this [13:43] When did this start? [13:43] Yeah, just noticed the time axis. [13:54] Oh hey, you learn something new every day: "The most surefire way to know if a site is behind Cloudflare (orange cloud is on) is by hitting /cdn-cgi/trace (e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/cdn-cgi/trace) which is the debug output from Cloudflare’s HTTP server. There’s no way to my knowledge that route can be disabled or overriden." Nice. (From https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20262816 ) [13:56] heh, we're using /cdn-cgi/trace, /cdn-cgi/ping and similar endpoints in our internal peering solutions [14:31] *** deevious has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [14:54] *** kiskabak has quit IRC (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.github.io) [14:54] *** kiskabak has joined #archiveteam-ot [15:01] *** kiskabak has quit IRC (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.github.io) [15:01] *** kiskabak has joined #archiveteam-ot [15:01] *** kiskabak has quit IRC (Client Quit) [15:12] *** VerifiedJ has joined #archiveteam-ot [15:39] *** VerifiedJ has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:39] *** VerifiedJ has joined #archiveteam-ot [15:42] *** kiskabak has joined #archiveteam-ot [15:43] *** kiska sets mode: +o kiskabak [16:00] *** kiska1 has quit IRC (The Lounge - https://thelounge.github.io) [16:09] *** kiska1 has joined #archiveteam-ot [16:10] *** kiska1 has quit IRC (Client Quit) [16:11] *** kiska1 has joined #archiveteam-ot [16:13] *** kiska1 has quit IRC (Client Quit) [16:13] *** kiska1 has joined #archiveteam-ot [16:17] *** kiska sets mode: +o kiska1 [16:18] Fusl: Updating that instance shortly, its still on v2.7.1 [16:20] *** Flashfire has quit IRC (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.github.io) [16:20] *** kiska has quit IRC (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.github.io) [16:20] *** Flashier has quit IRC (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.github.io) [16:27] *** Flashfire has joined #archiveteam-ot [16:27] *** Flashier has joined #archiveteam-ot [16:27] *** kiska has joined #archiveteam-ot [16:27] *** kiska has quit IRC (Client Quit) [16:30] *** kiska has joined #archiveteam-ot [16:32] Fusl: identd should be running now xD [16:32] *** kiska1 sets mode: +o kiska [16:51] *** Stilettoo is now known as Stiletto [17:50] *** Mateon1 has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [17:50] *** Mateon1 has joined #archiveteam-ot [17:59] *** nataraj has joined #archiveteam-ot [18:17] *** ola_norsk has joined #archiveteam-ot [18:17] By any chance, is archivebot able to snag an entire Facebook group? e.g ( https://www.facebook.com/groups/AmosPro ) [18:19] JAA: snscrape idea? ^ [18:22] It's in relation to Francois Lionet recently starting up AMOS 2 ( http://amos2.tech/ , which i've already grab-sited ) .. I've done a bit of their facebook group with webrecorder.io , but Facebook is a f*cking biatch.. [18:23] also, #archivebot [18:24] No, ArchiveBot won't be able to grab it. chromebot might. [18:24] And yeah, it has been on my list for snscrape for a while. [18:27] i don't know how to operate chromebot [18:31] btw, if someone have fond memories of AMOS / STOS in their Amiga or Atari ST, here's Francois Lionet's patreon if someone would like to support his work financially https://www.patreon.com/francoislionet [18:33] "A modern AMOS 3D with WebGL is of-course in the plans, as well other fantastic things with the Friend platform and Friend Network." ... oooh, that would be awesome :D [18:39] *** ola_norsk has quit IRC (leaving) [19:08] there's a guy I've run across online who can back up a Facebook group and output as SQL+files. However he wants 1. to charge for it and 2. to be granted access to the group [19:08] so something better would be cool [19:25] *** cfarquhar has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [19:27] *** cfarquhar has joined #archiveteam-ot [19:31] *** cfarquhar has quit IRC (Client Quit) [19:44] Can I be invited to #fedisperse? [20:14] *** killsushi has joined #archiveteam-ot [20:27] *** ola_norsk has joined #archiveteam-ot [20:38] Me having watched Francois Lionet patreon video; I noticed he talked about the idea of "amos basicS" , where it seems to me he's been in contact with the author of Blitz Basic / GAF .. ( https://youtu.be/kZ6YeX3dCm8?t=321 ) [20:39] What it appears to me he's talking about, is basically a form of JsMESS... or ? [20:40] albeit, he's focusing on BASIC languages [20:40] maybe i'm misunderstanding what JSMESS is.. [20:48] It appears to me he's talking about "on-the-fly" re-compilation or some sort .. And isn't that what JSMESS is pretty much? [20:48] (just without the on-the-fly part?) [20:54] SketchCow: you're fairly into the JSMESS development thingy right? Might i msg you the dude's email? .. Because it wouldn't surprise me if he's unaware of the existance of JSMESS; And it would be a shame if he's doing reinvention of some wheel he could use [20:57] forgive if it shouldn't have [20:59] He just might become a very valuable contributor on the JSMESS project for all i know [21:00] It just appears to me he's not very savvy on modern tech, but ultra-savvo on retro-tech [21:03] e.g, when he's describing the 'folder sharing' thingy, that sounds to me to be the BitTorrent folder-share that was a while back.. [21:04] anyone remember the name of that btw? [21:04] it was BitTorrent's own project [21:05] (i think) [21:06] some directory-sharing thingy, using BitTorrent and share-link/invites [21:21] *** nataraj has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [21:27] *** ola_norsk has quit IRC (leaving) [21:29] BitTorrent Sync? [21:30] Nowadays known as Resilio [23:02] kiska I see that the lounge updated