#archiveteam-ot 2019-08-11,Sun

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15:54 🔗 schbirid i am too dumb for this, what magical go-rwxX+-a combination do i need if i want tar to make every file in a recursive tree read-only and the directories whatever they need to be?
15:56 🔗 ivan_ schbirid: chmod -R a=rX
15:59 🔗 schbirid thanks!
16:04 🔗 schbirid awesome, this makes it necessary to chmod the resulting dirs to writable before one can even remove them. perfect
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17:32 🔗 schbirid its too damn hard to make deterministic tarballs...
17:33 🔗 JAA Read up on how the Tor Project does it (if you haven't already).
17:36 🔗 JAA Wait actually, I misread that. That was about deterministic Firefox/Tor Browser builds. Tarballs should be relatively easy with faketime and a couple options to override the user and group information.
17:50 🔗 schbirid that's what i thought
17:50 🔗 schbirid but now i have some different versions i think
17:50 🔗 schbirid binary is almost the same not fully
17:50 🔗 schbirid oh well, another day
17:50 🔗 schbirid :D
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21:20 🔗 JAA EndChan (endchan.xyz) is currently down, probably due to posts there from that idiot who wanted to shoot up a mosque in Norway. I guess it's not something we want to archive considering it's about on par with 8chan but thought I'd mention it anyway.
21:21 🔗 JAA (Actually, it's still online but only through Tor.)
21:24 🔗 Raccoon It has news worthiness. Just like the 4chan mall shooter from ~10 years ago.
21:25 🔗 Raccoon History is important
21:25 🔗 JAA Yes, and I think it should be archived, but this was discussed before, and it's not going to happen under the umbrella of AT.
21:25 🔗 Raccoon I remember calling the mall about an hour after it happened, warning them about the planned attack. I was too late.
21:26 🔗 Raccoon But others probably did too
21:26 🔗 Raccoon Really. AT has no-go-zones?
21:28 🔗 JAA Yes, things that could get the archiver and/or IA into legal trouble, like sites containing or linking to lolicon or worse, for example.
21:29 🔗 Raccoon #archiveteam-ug underground
21:29 🔗 Raccoon Someone had to archive the hitler video reels
21:29 🔗 JAA I don't know about EndChan specifically, but 4chan used to do that until it was banned quite some time ago, and 8chan still did recently.
21:31 🔗 JAA We've archived plenty of far-right and nazi sites, especially two years ago after the rally in Charlottesville. There's no problem with that.
21:31 🔗 JAA CP and lolicon is different.
21:31 🔗 Raccoon perhaps.
21:32 🔗 Raccoon Though, if handed over as evidence, it might save lives
21:32 🔗 Raccoon someone running a script over them
21:32 🔗 JAA Sure, but that's very different from archiving it and throwing it into the Wayback Machine.
21:32 🔗 Raccoon yeah. but everything makes it to the wayback machine does it?
21:32 🔗 JAA And I'm certain there's already law enforcement units doing just that.
21:35 🔗 Raccoon Another off topic, did anyone here participate in that CoDC talk at AO whatever month or 2 ago?
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