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[17:28] <JAA> yano: I just stumbled across your blog while searching for OpenSSL config stuff. :-)
[17:28] <JAA> Small world etc.
[17:29] <JAA> And that blog article I found starts with "After bashing my brain in with a brick ...". Can confirm, that's how I feel right now as well.
[17:32] <JAA> Does anyone know the correct way to write an openssl.cnf file that restores the less secure behaviour of before Debian Buster, i.e. drops the MinProtocol and the security level in CipherString? There are numerous people who had that issue of course, but the solution given there is always either adjusting /etc/ssl/openssl.cnf (or wherever it is on the OS) or passing the relevant values directly into 
[17:32] <JAA> OpenSSL. I need an openssl.cnf-like file that does *not* change the system.wide settings so that I can pass it into particular processes with the OPENSSL_CONF environment variable.
[17:34] <JAA> The documentation is laughable, and the construct in the default file is ridiculous (value pointing to another section of the config file, three layers deep).
[17:35] <jrwr> Feature Rot
[17:35] <jrwr> OpenSSL overall is just a cluster
[17:35] <jrwr> written by a bunch of math nerds
[17:36] <JAA> That sounds about right.
[17:36] <JAA> But at least that means the algorithms should be pretty decent (though the implementations might not).
[17:36] <jrwr> Most are
[17:37] <jrwr> just the interfaces into them are a cluster
[17:37] <JAA> Yeah
[17:38] <jrwr> I did get to hack a ATM over the last few weeks
[17:38] <jrwr> https://twitter.com/spiceywasabi/status/1202262690380443648
[17:40] <JAA> Nevermind, apparently all those sections aren't needed. You can just throw MinProtocol and CipherString directly into a file without any sections.
[17:41] <JAA> Nice!
[17:42] <jrwr> Now, Make it FIPS Complaint 
[17:42] <jrwr> Compliant 
[17:42] <JAA> No, complaint sounds right.
[17:42] <jrwr> lol
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[18:54] <yano> JAA: hah, nice!
[18:54] <yano> i think i stole that line from Corey on freenode
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[22:31] <geniibunt> Hello. Mostly curious whether any steps are being undertaken for https://developer.ibm.com/community 
[22:32] <Ryz> Hello geniibunt - we'll need to figure out if it's a AB job or something more substantial on archiving https://developer.ibm.com/community
[22:34] <Ryz> Oh wow, the announcement on checking WBM went far back as 2019 October 15 (or the 14th on that page)
[22:35] <geniibunt> Wayback seems to have at least partials up until Nov end, nothing in there yet for Dec
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[23:07] <Ravenloft> http://te.i.uol.com.br/album/gadgets_eletronicos_fracasso_f_017.jpg
[23:07] <Ravenloft> interesting time capsule
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