[00:01] Well I archive old recovery media [00:01] Its actually a big field that's practically been untouched [00:08] what's an example of recovery media? [00:09] Well what do you mean? [00:09] like OS media for restoring laptops and desktops to original condition? [00:10] this is a non contact method, but not fast for a whole book https://www.mdpi.com/2571-9408/2/3/128/htm [00:11] Yes that atphoenix [00:11] I have my old recovery media for the systems I bought new. [00:11] I had to restore my laptop a few months ago [00:11] Well remember I said "old" [00:11] So Vista and older in this case [00:12] and some recovery partition images for systems that didn't come with separate media [00:12] I had to make an account on the vendor website, download a Windows-only tool (on another PC), which then downloaded a bunch of individual components and put them together into an iso [00:12] why isn't there just an .iso link on the website?! D: [00:13] Its sad I know [00:13] nicolas17, you are lucky there was even an option. [00:13] I think Microsoft itself had something like that too [00:13] "Windows Image Creation Tool" which did a big download and then five more steps that took an hour before it shat out a file I could burn [00:14] marked1: Thanks, will take a look at that. Slow is fine. [00:14] atphoenix, if the disk is Vista or older then we'll be glad to take it up for archival [00:15] I have an OEM Windows95 CD somewhere (I don't think it's specific to any particular PC) [00:15] I have some pre-Vista items. [00:15] Well those non-branded OEM discs don't particularly recover anything [00:15] I also have a still-shrinkwrapped copy of Win95 Upgrade [00:15] So we don't archive it [00:16] retail upgrade box [00:16] There's one thing our project does atphoenix [00:16] That thing would be that we make a cracked copy of all the media we archive so you can use them in VMs [00:16] lol, I started looking a bit into laser grids and came across all these "tools for hunting the paranormal". [00:16] The fuck? [00:16] https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ghost-Paranormal-Laser-Grid-Pen-star-2in1-Pointer-Spirit-Light-hunting-equipment/182392557004 [00:17] *There's one MORE thing our project does atphoenix [00:17] Fixed my sentence [00:18] I guess "ghosts will cause the dots in the grid to move" or something like that? :-P [00:18] cracked or not, doesn't bother me, sometimes that's the only way to preserve items. I know that's been an issue in preserve certain old arcade machines [00:18] google keeps taking me to different forum.diybookscanner.org threads [00:19] Virtually all results when searching for "laser grid" on eBay are ghost hunting tools. :-D [00:19] TMK, google search results are tuned per-user [00:19] having you been hunting ghosts JAA? [00:19] :D [00:20] I invoke my right to remain silent. [00:20] :-P [00:21] hm, I never thought of that question before. what percentage of countries have that right vs not [00:22] more on tuned results: https://www.google.com/search?q=google+search+results [00:22] was also thinking about that right to. US has it in Constituion's 5th Amendment. [00:23] regular laser + diffraction grating [00:25] Yeah, was just looking into that. [00:32] atphoenix: We crack them so we can try out the PCs without the expense...it also helps those who somehow can't use the original media [00:32] https://forum.diybookscanner.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=3066 has a youtube video using a line laser [00:34] Does anybody here know the captcha password to ArchiveTeam? [00:34] #archiveteam never got a response [00:49] VoyKnight what page are you adding? [00:50] A page for my project [00:50] If ArchiveTeam doesn't mind [00:50] I mean it involves archival so I don't think anybody would mind [00:51] I think JAA has some IRC research related pages under his wiki account. [00:51] Ah alright then it should be good [00:52] if you are granted access, your content might be okay buried under your account. It's not really my call though [00:52] *** atbk has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 745 seconds) [00:52] I tell new people to stick around #archiveteam-bs , because people have gotten themselves in trouble for not following edit preference [00:53] FWIW, wiki edits get posted to IRC [00:53] Oh? [00:54] Yeah, agreed, that is fine but should be kept on/under your user page unless/until it becomes an actual ArchiveTeam project. [00:54] Well I mean why would a description and history of my archival project be a problem on a site like this [00:54] Ah [00:54] I mean I could state its not one of those projects [00:54] If it's on User:Username, that's implied. :-) [00:55] By the way, edits in the User namespace are not announced on IRC. [00:55] Can I make User:Username/Example for example? [00:55] Yep [00:55] E.g. https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=User:JustAnotherArchivist/hackint_vs_EFnet [00:55] Sounds nice [00:57] that's what I was referring to. I couldn't find the link :) [00:59] I think I linked it on Archiveteam:IRC recently. [01:05] Oh shit the site's under heavy load [01:17] *** lunik1 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [01:17] *** keith20 has joined #archiveteam-ot [01:18] ?? [01:20] *** antomati_ has joined #archiveteam-ot [01:21] *** keith20 has quit IRC (Client Quit) [01:21] Well its up [01:21] https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=User:VoyKnight/The_RCP_Project [01:22] *** lunik1 has joined #archiveteam-ot [01:24] *** antomatic has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 745 seconds) [01:37] *** VoyKnight has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 263 seconds) [01:51] oh so hackint has C3 backing huh [01:51] interesting [02:04] C3? 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You mean CCC, the chaos computer club in Germany [18:32] arent those two things affiliated [18:34] C3 is organised by CCC. [18:35] Doesn't mean the abbreviations shouldn't be used correctly. 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I knew that many of them are digitising books of course, but I wasn't aware that some also have book scanners available for private use. That should be better than a DIY thing. Although I was kind of looking forward to playing around with lasers and stuff. :-P [22:37] *** Craigle has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [22:37] well you still might need a DIY, but playing with an already made one might inform what works well vs doesn't work well [22:37] Yeah, I'll definitely try this first and only look into DIY solutions if it doesn't work to my satisfaction. [22:39] I remember one library where they brought out gloves to wear, if the book was in a certain old collection [22:42] *** Ryz has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [22:42] *** kiska18 has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [22:43] *** kiska18 has joined #archiveteam-ot [22:43] *** Ryz has joined #archiveteam-ot [22:43] Oh sure, I've seen that all the time. But this is not about a book from the library, so it should be different. I guess the question is whether those book scanners are intended for only scanning library materials or can also be used for private things (like this book). [22:43] *** svchfoo3 sets mode: +o kiska18 [22:44] *** svchfoo1 sets mode: +o kiska18 [22:58] Hmm, yeah, dunno know enough about Germany. Scanners I've noticed in US public and university libraries are usually always in self-serve areas, so regardless of intention as long as nobody is waiting, nobody will even notice. [22:59] but the nicest scanner I played with that way, was a Bookeye model. maybe the nicer machines are in the back [23:00] *** BlueMax has joined #archiveteam-ot [23:02] Lasers make everything cooler https://youtu.be/03ccxwNssmo [23:07] I remember seeing that video years ago. Yep, definitely cool. [23:46] *** Craigle has joined #archiveteam-ot [23:47] *** Laverne has joined #archiveteam-ot