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Google search has, though |
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mystonlin |
Thanks very much @nyany, it would be great if you could replace the citation links at the bottom of the page which currently both point to example.com for both, with the relevant forum posts: https://mystonline.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=29240 and https://forums.cyan.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1608 Thanks again! |
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JAA: That was exactly it. Seems to work fine now. |
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in RE: the reference links |
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atphoenix: btw, the youtube captcha is exactly the same as google search captcha, even the google domain |
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systwi |
I wanted to try out https://metacpan.org/pod/release/BSUGARS/IPC-Shareable-0.60/lib/IPC/Shareable.pm , it looks like it allows you to store a variable and reference it within any shell process |
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systwi |
I'd love to use that in a bash script I'm working on, but I have absolutely no clue on how to use it. I've read through the page but perl is so foreign to me I don't know what I'm looking at |
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atphoenix |
from hackint at -ot: The Best Ever Put-Downs From House Speaker John Berco https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAM-YW-6vdU <-- ODAH! ODAH! (Order! Order!) keeping #archiveteam on topic |
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maybe we could have a talking JohnBercoBot (JBB) in #archiveteam. Yells ODAH! after (some criteria). Step 1 is clear (create bot). Step 2 (the criteria) is nebulous. Step 3 Profit. (southpark gnomes references) |
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true. systwi: perl is rarely the best choice. what was the original task you're trying to get done, what did you try, and where did you get stuck? |
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marked1: Thanks for the input. In my bash script I want it to make sure it's the only instance running, and if a second instance is running, wait until the first one is finished. I read online a lot of people suggest using temporary files, however there is the chance that a sudden power outage could shut down the computer improperly. Then, when it's booted back up the temporary files are still there. A new run of the sc |
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systwi |
ript may see the temp file still there and think another iteration is running, when it's not |
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systwi: the usual method in this case is to apply `pgrep` |
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systwi |
Yes, but this is a bash script. As far as I know the process will only be listed as "bash" |
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Which could easily get confused if I have other Terminal windows open doing other things, which is very common |
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Try flock https://www.systutorials.com/docs/linux/man/1-flock/ |
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SootBectr |
sorry that site is full of 3rd party js, it's just the man page for flock which you likely have installed already though |
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Oh yeah I installed flock a long time ago (I'm using macOS so I had to use brew) |
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I'm reading the man page right now |
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what is the task you were trying to solve though, bash might not be a good language for it |
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systwi |
The only thing is, though, that still means I have to rely on files and not something in memory |
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like a variable |
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I am writing a tool to archive everything for a specified YT channel. That's the brief summary, I have been working on this tool for about 7 months now, I reeeally prefer not to switch languages at this point lol |
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Everything has gone perfect so far |
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put the lockfile in /tmp and it should achieve what you specify |
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That's definitely a good idea, however what about the off chance another file with the same name already exists? |
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That's why I thought having something in memory would prevent any issues |
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There's also the possibility of the user having a full disk |
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I'm just trying to cover all bases |
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@systwi to solve your temporary problem you can put the files in a RAM-disk (/dev/shm or /tmp depending on configuration). This will be lost upon power-off solving your problem. |
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nicolas17 |
if the disk is full you're not gonna download any YouTube videos anyway |
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trying to invent something nobody has thought of before is going to cause more bugs than following what's considered normal practice |
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SootBectr beat me to it. I was scrolled up. |
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The idea of a RAM disk is a good idea, idk if macOS's /tmp folder _is_ a ram disk in disguise. I can't reboot to check, too much stuff open atm lol. |
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mr_archiv |
Also to ensure a unique file name first create a folder for your program and append a unix timestamp to the end of the filename. |
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nicolas17: True, but the user could download it to a drive with free space |
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I was going to use a uuid |
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But I can also append a unix timestamp to that :) |
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mr_archiv |
Also have you tried youtube-dl? It can download an entire channel out of the box? |
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systwiALT: if you really want to avoid lockfiles, you can invoke script.sh as /bin/bash script.sh (instead of ./script.sh) and use `pgrep -f`. but this will have a similar problem in that a the process name could theoretically exist; at some point you have to trust your system. |
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mr_archiv: Yes, youtube-dl is a critical component, but I am logging the history of channels as well. One grab in 2016 could be identical to a grab in 2019, but the user could have changed their channel banner. My script will track all of that |
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thuban |
s/a the/a similar/ |
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Got it |
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atphoenix |
I also lost my EFnet connection for 5 minutes. For others thinking they have gaps, see https://archive.fart.website/bin/irclogger_log/archiveteam-ot?date=2020-01-26,Sun |
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SootBectr |
To ensure a unique filename, use mktemp |
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Thanks for the tips everyone |
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Didn't know about mktemp too, nice |
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I guess to be absolutely safe, I can; 1, check the disk space is > enough to make a temp file |
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2, create the temp file with mktemp and flock it |
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Then any new script iterations will be on hold until the file is freed and removed |
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Now, regarding perl, I can't remember exactly what it was in my script, but I did use it (something like `perl -c "code here"`) and it worked perfectly |
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That's why I thought maybe doing something similar with a non-tempfile-reliant solution would work |
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er, isn't the point of mktemp the randomization, i.e. that successive invocations will _not_ clobber each other? |
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I just also think of the possibility of the user unable to write to /tmp (would probably cause WAY more issues though) |
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It's probably me just being too paranoid |
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atphoenix: no bots that talk in #archiveteam |
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where did a bot talk? |
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no bot talked. I was trying to make a humorous comment. |
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