#archiveteam 2011-07-12,Tue

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00:03 πŸ”— RedType_ up until recently, i had a bottle of faygo in my cabinet
00:06 πŸ”— RedType_ ex roommates
01:40 πŸ”— SketchCow http://www.archive.org/details/PennyArcadeExpo2007Footage
02:00 πŸ”— MMovie So I'm mirroring a couple websites of radio stations in Chicago which are going away Thursday, anything more I can do other than save them myself for posterity?
04:17 πŸ”— SketchCow Record the full broadcast days?
05:26 πŸ”— Coderjoe ndurner: <Coderjoe> hmm <Coderjoe> I wonder if it would be better if the "get" apis returned the record keys for each item, and the update apis took that key instead. I think it would find the record faster
05:41 πŸ”— ndurner Coderjoe: thanks, will answer later
06:19 πŸ”— SketchCow Work WORK work
06:38 πŸ”— chronomex SketchCow: fun work or boring work?
06:44 πŸ”— Qwerty0 ok so
06:44 πŸ”— Qwerty0 how big could encyclopedia dramatica really be?
06:46 πŸ”— Qwerty0 anyone tried a personal wget project on that one?
06:57 πŸ”— SketchCow Uh, we already did this Qwerty0
07:01 πŸ”— SketchCow http://www.archive.org/details/2010-01-encyclopedia-dramatica
07:02 πŸ”— Qwerty0 whaa?
07:03 πŸ”— Qwerty0 huh, i guess i was pretty confused on the status of backups when the original ED went under
07:04 πŸ”— Qwerty0 oh wow, looks like that's got images and everything! how did i not hear about this?
07:06 πŸ”— SketchCow I don't know. This was all covered in this channel.
07:06 πŸ”— ersi Beats us
07:06 πŸ”— ersi I've been seeding that for.. months?
07:07 πŸ”— Qwerty0 i think it's that i've been getting my info from our wiki
07:08 πŸ”— Qwerty0 well i guess i'll throw the archive.org link up on the wiki, then
07:15 πŸ”— chronomex best keep yourself informed
07:29 πŸ”— Qwerty0 i am not accustomed to these non-wiki ways of learning!
08:06 πŸ”— ndurner_o Coderjoe: do you propose to hand out database IDs to client scripts?
08:07 πŸ”— ndurner_o If so, how would you return the actual group/directory name?
08:08 πŸ”— ndurner_o (network usage by itself is not an issue)
14:10 πŸ”— Spirit_ eek, yes i should backup my floppies
14:12 πŸ”— Spirit_ precious apple ][ piracy :)
14:12 πŸ”— Spirit_ i did make backups years ago
14:12 πŸ”— Spirit_ on other floppies
14:12 πŸ”— Spirit_ oh god i want to play some apple ][ now
14:13 πŸ”— Spirit_ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2ONtrAqU2s !!
14:14 πŸ”— Spirit_ woah, that game had colours, i only have a green screen
14:17 πŸ”— Spirit_ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI7pgU8pahk :)
14:17 πŸ”— Spirit_ i was a master at this one
14:17 πŸ”— Spirit_ or a clone, not sure
14:17 πŸ”— Spirit_ iirc most of the games were clones my dad's students programmed
14:36 πŸ”— DFJustin guess I will have to get in touch, still have a drawer of apple floppies and others....
14:38 πŸ”— DFJustin the c64 originals I had dumped by the http://c64preservation.com/ guys (who are awesome) a while back
14:46 πŸ”— SketchCow Excellent.
14:46 πŸ”— SketchCow Yes, they're one the groups I have in that back pocket.
14:51 πŸ”— Spirit_ your head looks so shopped on http://www.flickr.com/photos/textfiles/5659199357
15:21 πŸ”— closure SketchCow: might want to s/unreasonable/unreadable/ on the floppy post
15:22 πŸ”— closure anyway, this reminds me that I found a Kaypro II on the porch of the cabin I'm renting, and boxes of old 5" floppies circa 1982.. haven't gotten it going yet
15:37 πŸ”— SketchCow Hate everyone!
15:40 πŸ”— closure may look up this gene buckle guy who offered to do CP/M unless you have a better lead
15:40 πŸ”— SketchCow Gene and I are very old friends.
15:40 πŸ”— SketchCow He's part of my mentioned network.
15:41 πŸ”— closure cool
15:41 πŸ”— closure depending on how rotted these disks are.. I'm gonna hook the kaypro up to the new inverter, perhaps I can actually run it now and see
15:44 πŸ”— MBall I just read Jason's post on Floppy Disk's I think I have thirty or so 3.5" floppies that might be worth archiving, can someone point me to any page on how I can go about it and get it over to the Archive team?
15:45 πŸ”— closure fwiw, I have gear to do Atari 130xe and other Atari DOS disks
15:46 πŸ”— closure forget what the thing's called, it lets the atari use a PC's serial port as a second floppy drive
15:46 πŸ”— closure quite handy
15:46 πŸ”— closure kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/saved_my_atari_programs/
15:47 πŸ”— MBall All the stuff I have is for PC, but I have the Netscape Navigator 2.0 floppies (6 of them) and Wing Commander 2 (7) with the speech pack (3), then a bunch of other driver/install disks.
15:48 πŸ”— DFJustin first off, write protect the disks
15:49 πŸ”— DFJustin if they're regular dos/windows disks and you have some vague idea what you're doing you can probably do it yourself with ddrescue http://www.forensicswiki.org/wiki/Ddrescue
15:50 πŸ”— MBall ALright
15:50 πŸ”— MBall Alright even
15:51 πŸ”— Spirit_ wc2 disk images are on underground-gamer.com
15:51 πŸ”— Spirit_ (i love that site)
15:52 πŸ”— DFJustin ddrescue has a mode to keep retrying bad sectors which is very nice for aging floppies
15:53 πŸ”— DFJustin someone with a fancy floppy controller like catweasel can probably get better results though
15:56 πŸ”— DFJustin I've dumped various dos games but don't know an obvious place to curate them
15:57 πŸ”— closure heh, a Kaypro takes more than 750 watts to run. And has a hard drive.. that must have been very upmarket in 1982
15:57 πŸ”— closure I also have 17 Kaypro manuals
16:03 πŸ”— Spirit_ DFJustin: underground-gamer.com ;)
16:03 πŸ”— Spirit_ i thinktheir wiki is open to the public? http://www.underground-gamer.com/wiki/index.php/Complete_PC_MS-DOS_Collection
16:04 πŸ”— Spirit_ oh "This project errs on the side of playability over accuracy. "
16:05 πŸ”— DFJustin last I checked that project was sort of dead, guess it revived
16:06 πŸ”— Spirit_ http://www.underground-gamer.com/wiki/index.php/Redump.org_IBM_PC_Compatible would be more appropiate i think
16:06 πŸ”— Spirit_ no wait that are CDs only
16:06 πŸ”— * Spirit_ shuts up
16:07 πŸ”— DFJustin I'm normally an accuracy stickler but for dos games it's less crucial imo
16:08 πŸ”— DFJustin so many games were distributed only as zip archives on FTPs etc
16:09 πŸ”— MBall Ah bugger, D3 of WCII is erroring out at 95%
16:27 πŸ”— Spirit_ http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2754753 nice
16:31 πŸ”— Spirit_ http://www.softpres.org/
16:34 πŸ”— bbot_ Google Chrome could not load the webpage because news.ycombinator.com took too long to respond. The website may be down, or you may be experiencing issues with your Internet connection.
16:35 πŸ”— Spirit_ you broke it
16:41 πŸ”— emijrp Hackers news hacked.
17:05 πŸ”— emijrp HAHAHAHAHAHA LOOK WHAT I DID (pic) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Scott_Sadofsky#Presentations
17:07 πŸ”— Spirit_ heh
17:10 πŸ”— Coderjoe ndurner_o: (continuing thought from before you left) that is, the record key and the url fragment. (the key being the output of KeyFactory.keyToString, converted back with KeyFactory.stringToKey)
17:11 πŸ”— Coderjoe ndurner_o: perhaps something like dbkey:datafragment, and then cut, or "dbkey fragment" and use bash array handling
17:13 πŸ”— Coderjoe ./mode #archiveteam +b RMF!*@87.196.44.127 ... temporarily at least?
17:15 πŸ”— chronomex whats that for?
17:15 πŸ”— Coderjoe or not.
17:15 πŸ”— chronomex i have joins and parts ignored here, is someone flooding?
17:16 πŸ”— chronomex try it, in channels like this one the difference is night and day
17:16 πŸ”— Coderjoe yeah, RMF was "excess flood" quitting right after joining
17:16 πŸ”— chronomex aha, someone's in more channels than he can handle
17:16 πŸ”— Coderjoe no thanks. normally I don't care, and I like to know if someone I was talking to left
17:17 πŸ”— chronomex aye. i did it ages ago because it used to be a bunch of idlers in here with shitty tubes.
17:19 πŸ”— Coderjoe whee.. interleaving phone calls with IRC...
17:20 πŸ”— Coderjoe it normally isn't an issue
17:21 πŸ”— Coderjoe he could have also just been in one really big channel (along with one or more smaller) and was filling his sendq with names replies
17:22 πŸ”— chronomex exactly
18:32 πŸ”— emijrp Man, http://www.flickr.com/photos/textfiles/5085308621/in/photostream
20:06 πŸ”— emijrp adding images from Jason flickr http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Get_Lamp
20:07 πŸ”— emijrp wikipedia sucker admins dont want to move the title to GET LAMP due to policies about titles
20:07 πŸ”— emijrp wut wut wut
20:07 πŸ”— closure tell them the title is > GET LAMP
20:08 πŸ”— emijrp i did it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves#Uncontroversial_requests
20:08 πŸ”— emijrp He said: Oppose: MOS:TM. Ҁ“CWenger (^ Ҁ’ @) 18:04, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
20:08 πŸ”— DoubleJ Actually, that makes sense. In a journalistic style, it would be rendered in title case: Get Lamp.
20:09 πŸ”— DoubleJ Or, since you pasted while I was typing, what that other guy said.
20:10 πŸ”— emijrp Fork of English Wikipedia for this. NAO.
20:13 πŸ”— emijrp There are currently 7000+ languages on Earth. By 2050, 90% of them will be extinct. What are we going to do about that?
20:14 πŸ”— emijrp Learn from IA http://blog.archive.org/2011/01/30/digitizing-all-balinese-literature/
20:16 πŸ”— SketchCow Yeah, I heard of that when I was out there.
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