#archiveteam 2011-07-17,Sun

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00:00 🔗 Coderjoe I don't know all the status codes, either, but that is ok
01:29 🔗 drspangle does this sound like the premise for an odd sci-fi film or is it just me? http://www.timecube.com/
01:32 🔗 drspangle "Until Word is Cornered, all Math is Fiction."
01:33 🔗 drspangle these words, sense does not emanate from them
01:34 🔗 drspangle "If Earth stood still, it would have mid-day, mid-night, sun-up and sun-down as 4 corners. Each rotation of earth has 4 mid-days, 4 mid-nights, 4 sun-ups and 4 sun-downs."
01:38 🔗 chronomex 15:49:27 Coderjoe heh. this drive's stepper motor still has the dots on it from when i verified the track alignment back in the late 90s
01:38 🔗 chronomex Coderjoe: hardcore
01:56 🔗 Coderjoe unfortunately, I can't remember the program I need to use to check the alignment
01:56 🔗 Coderjoe I have the test disk
03:08 🔗 Coderjoe aha
03:09 🔗 Coderjoe found it. it is part of the duplication software
03:09 🔗 Coderjoe (didn't realize it until I found the manual)
06:07 🔗 Coderjoe hmm
06:07 🔗 Coderjoe FTP archives garbo.uwasa.fi, U of Vaasa, Finland, moderated by
06:07 🔗 Coderjoe i wonder if garbo's still around
06:09 🔗 Coderjoe haha
06:09 🔗 Coderjoe Phone Losers of America
06:11 🔗 Coderjoe PLA001: http://pastebin.com/egv4EynB
08:54 🔗 Nemo_bis and again http://www.us.archive.org/log_show.php?task_id=80391536
08:57 🔗 Spirit_ Thank you for your interest in the Internet Archive. We would love to host your digital artifacts. In order to access this page, you will need to log in to our website.
09:49 🔗 Nemo_bis Spirit_, yes, luckily login is required (there are even emails in those logs :-/).
11:26 🔗 Spirit_ any suggestions how to download all articles from a newsgroup?
12:06 🔗 Nemo_bis Spirit_, add to Thunderbird, tell him to download everythin for offline use, compress -mbox or whatever it creates?
12:21 🔗 underscor http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIPJEhqv64E
12:21 🔗 underscor :D
12:22 🔗 underscor If anyone sees ndurner, tell him his thing is returning 501
12:22 🔗 underscor Parent's day today!
12:37 🔗 Spirit_ interesting idea, will try
12:48 🔗 Spirit_ what a terrible error message "A News (NNTP) error occurred: Acess denied to your node"
12:54 🔗 Spirit_ Nemo_bis: doesnt seem to work. it just shows 2 messages for https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.games.quake
12:54 🔗 Spirit_ or would that be my provider?
12:54 🔗 Spirit_ oh god of course it is
12:55 🔗 Spirit_ silly me
12:55 🔗 Spirit_ god bless the google groups project ;)
12:55 🔗 Nemo_bis yep
12:55 🔗 Nemo_bis I was thinking about downloading it all
12:55 🔗 Nemo_bis How big would it be?
12:55 🔗 Nemo_bis (The newsgroups, I mean.)
12:56 🔗 Spirit_ all the newsgroups? or the ones i want
12:58 🔗 Eprillios Sorry for connecting/disconnecting all the time, my connection didn't like me. :-/
13:01 🔗 Nemo_bis Spirit_, all of them
13:02 🔗 Spirit_ try wikipedia for a start, you will definitely find statistics on the binary groups, maybe there are numbers for the text groups next to that
13:15 🔗 emijrp newsgroup for wikipedia?
13:16 🔗 emijrp ah ok
13:16 🔗 Nemo_bis emijrp, there's gmane
13:16 🔗 emijrp THE GAME?
13:16 🔗 emijrp ah ok
13:16 🔗 Nemo_bis emijrp, although https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25105 needs to be fixed :-/
13:17 🔗 Nemo_bis I got the owner to add all nupedia mailing lists but the system wait the first message before actually creating the group... So I don't understand how to import dead lists.
14:31 🔗 Spirit_ fuuu, linux 7z uses different defaults than windows 7z
14:51 🔗 Spirit_ no wait, PEBKAC
17:40 🔗 Spirit_ i once had a gui tool for windows that i could use to create all kinds of fantastic file lists. kinda like ls but with gui and iirc some options to save the listings to files. anyone got any idea where i could find it?
19:54 🔗 drspangl1 ls
19:54 🔗 drspangl1 oops
19:54 🔗 drspangl1 i keep doing that instead of /n
19:59 🔗 chronomex heh
20:04 🔗 SketchCow Hey, gang.
20:04 🔗 chronomex ahoy mate
20:04 🔗 SketchCow Did I see a debate up there about how to get stuff into the internet archive?
20:07 🔗 SketchCow Anyway.
20:07 🔗 SketchCow So listen, blindtiger and flophouse are going away.
20:07 🔗 SketchCow I've been given a new machine.
20:07 🔗 SketchCow It's called archiveteam0, and I hate that name, trying to come up with something awesome.
20:07 🔗 SketchCow While I love yahooarchives.textfiles.com, probably should be something else.
20:10 🔗 oli want something.dingoate.it
20:11 🔗 oli cuz i registered that the other name
20:11 🔗 oli maybe babies.dingoate.it ??
20:11 🔗 Coderjoe just hope a werewolf doesn't eat you
20:14 🔗 Coderjoe so I've got the autoloader working, and a kryoflux on the way. I have to experiment to see if the 2x drive currently in the duplicator will work with the kf
20:15 🔗 Coderjoe (back when the thing was still being manufactured, there was a 1440 RPM drive available for it)
20:15 🔗 Nemo_bis does someone see a 17.5 GiB file here? http://ia600602.us.archive.org/1/items/openwetware.org/
20:15 🔗 Nemo_bis IA staff keeps saying there is :-/
20:15 🔗 Coderjoe Nemo_bis: I only see two xml and a 433MB 7z
20:16 🔗 Nemo_bis hm, let's wait a bit, perhaps some weird cache error
20:16 🔗 Nemo_bis (http://www.us.archive.org/catalog.php?history=1&identifier=openwetware.org )
20:16 🔗 SketchCow Looks like I need to reboot.
20:16 🔗 Coderjoe it is possible that it wrapped. I'm not sure what limits the lighttpd build on that system has
20:17 🔗 SketchCow What's the item name, Nemo_bis
20:17 🔗 Nemo_bis openwetware.org
20:17 🔗 Nemo_bis http://www.archive.org/details/openwetware.org
20:17 🔗 SketchCow It's http://www.archive.org/details/openwetware.org?
20:17 🔗 Nemo_bis yes
20:18 🔗 Nemo_bis looks like that server run out of disk space
20:18 🔗 SketchCow Let me reboot this machine, then let me see.
20:18 🔗 SketchCow Yes, that's possible.
20:18 🔗 Nemo_bis thanks
20:19 🔗 Nemo_bis is anywone familiar with S3 IA interface? http://www.archive.org/help/abouts3.txt
20:19 🔗 chronomex no, but I expect to become so soon
20:20 🔗 Coderjoe Success: You canceled. No changes have been made.
20:20 🔗 Coderjoe I did NOT cancel you POS
20:21 🔗 Nemo_bis chronomex, good for you because it's great, but I don't manage to change metadata through it
20:21 🔗 chronomex aye
20:22 🔗 Nemo_bis they say to "upload" /dev/null but I get "411 Length Required" error
20:22 🔗 Nemo_bis and if I upload something else nothing happens :-/
20:22 🔗 chronomex hmm
20:38 🔗 Coderjoe Nemo_bis: in http://www.us.archive.org/log_show.php?task_id=80391536 ...
20:38 🔗 Coderjoe openwetwareorg-20110712-images.tar
20:38 🔗 Coderjoe rsync: write failed on "/1/items/openwetware.org/openwetwareorg-20110712-images.tar": No space left on device (28)
20:39 🔗 Coderjoe when trying to rsync from the upload directory (I think) to the storage node
20:42 🔗 Coderjoe Nemo_bis: I suspect that it allocated the machines with a bad guess on the final size. did you give a size hint when you created the bucket? (I see you used the s3 interface, based on the info in the log)
20:42 🔗 Nemo_bis yes, Coderjoe, but a sysadmin rerun it and says it's ok now
20:42 🔗 Nemo_bis Coderjoe, yes, but the item had already been created with the smaller file
20:43 🔗 Nemo_bis and I don't know if it can use two servers for the same item
20:44 🔗 Coderjoe well, they already use at least 2 servers per item for backup. but it can't split an item across servers (to the best of my knowlege at least)
20:49 🔗 SketchCow Back.
20:50 🔗 SketchCow OK, first, stop panicing.
20:50 🔗 SketchCow I'm here.
20:50 🔗 SketchCow I'm like god
20:50 🔗 SketchCow Let me go look at your object.
20:51 🔗 SketchCow chronomex: Please op me
20:55 🔗 SketchCow Let me think.
20:56 🔗 SketchCow OK, I see that it's really kind of finished and thinks this is the item.
20:58 🔗 SketchCow I can bring this up with the gang.
21:00 🔗 SketchCow Just did, we'll see.
21:02 🔗 Nemo_bis SketchCow, who? I had already written to them
21:02 🔗 Nemo_bis (Jeff)
21:02 🔗 SketchCow I have access to the internal admins.
21:02 🔗 Nemo_bis ok
21:02 🔗 SketchCow We'll see what happens.
21:03 🔗 Nemo_bis thank you
21:04 🔗 Nemo_bis I don't see the usual &delete_from_source=2 arg so perhaps the file is still somewhere
21:05 🔗 Nemo_bis Not that it's a problem to upload it again, if only IA servers were not so slooow
21:09 🔗 * SketchCow is adding another 39 manuals to archive.org.
22:46 🔗 SketchCow Done!
23:02 🔗 DFJustin I notice that for the stuff in the bitsavers collection, the subject shows up as "Bitsavers.org;Computer History" all one item
23:30 🔗 SketchCow That's just metatags
23:30 🔗 DFJustin but like other items when there's more than one tag you can click them separately to do searches

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