[00:17] 13% here [01:43] bbot_: http://gigaom.com/2011/07/21/pirate-bay-jstor/ [01:52] Yes? [01:53] just saw the article [02:10] If I can remove even one dollar of ill-gained income from a poisonous industry which acts to suppress scientific and historic understanding, then whatever personal cost I suffer will be justified . . . it will be one less dollar spent in the war against knowledge. One less dollar spent lobbying for laws that make downloading too many scientific papers a crime. [02:10] See that? That's stupid. [02:11] In other news, more arcade manuals!! http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=collection%3Aarcademanuals&sort=-publicdate [02:11] There are 4 more not in the list yet, but they'll derive soon. [02:19] You know what, Sketch, I agree with you. It isn't a popular position in the IT industry, but you are right. That's stupid. [02:20] For crying out loud, information should be free, but seriously. [02:23] More arcade manuals [02:25] Arcade manuals. Now THEY should be free. [02:33] I've begun writing the code that's going to dump a few hundred CD-ROM ISOs into archive.org. [02:33] So while I'm not being all ballsacky stupid like maxwell, I'm getting shit done. [02:38] ok, got a copy of JSTOR [02:44] 'lo [03:34] frid.ge is shutting down: http://keepitfresh.frid.ge/post/7885676041/keep-it-fresh-with-fridge-and-google [05:01] http://www.archive.org/details/cdrom-aminetcdnumber101996 [05:01] What's important here, is this was added via a script. [05:01] 100% via S3, bam [05:07] aspcd9606.iso [05:07] aspcd9606.iso_meta.txt [05:07] sent 73 bytes received 657818749 bytes 52625505.76 bytes/sec [05:07] total size is 657738283 speedup is 1.00 [05:07] And I do mean bam. 52 MB/s [05:07] to S3? [05:07] to ia's s3 interface [05:07] oh [05:08] that's not bad -- that was the sort of speed I was getting before I installed SSDs in my box [05:08] er, speed to spinning drives [05:10] )===> ISO ROCKET!! [05:10] First, let's figure out the ISO you're snuggling.... [05:10] Here's the output of my script: [05:10] I think it's AMINET CD Number 18 (1997).iso. [05:10] Might have to shift it a little, say: aminetcdnumber181997.iso [05:10] Let's figure out the item name. I'll add cdrom- to it. [05:10] (If you press enter, it'll be cdrom-aminetcdnumber181997.) [05:10] How about the Title of it? Again, press enter if you want it to be: AMINET CD Number 18 [05:10] Finally, what's the date? (The original filename was AMINET CD Number 18 (1997).iso if that's a clue.) [05:10] 1997 [05:10] Original ==> AMINET CD Number 18 (1997).iso [05:11] Item ==> cdrom-aminetcdnumber181997 [05:11] Title ==> AMINET CD Number 18 [05:11] Filename ==> aminetcdnumber181997.iso [05:11] Date ==> 1997 [05:11] Press enter now, or forever yank it. [05:11] So of all that, I entered "1997" [05:11] Otherwise, it did all the rest of the work. [05:11] So that script took 2 hours [05:11] Now I can do it 300 times [05:12] And believe me, I can certainly type a date or this and that 300 times. [05:19] http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=collection%3Acdbbsarchive&sort=-publicdate [05:25] And now.... about to add 18 of them [05:27] Since I typed that, I've added two. Two CD-ROM images. [05:31] ah ah ah. [05:33] HEYS GUYS. [05:34] Hey. [05:35] I'm just delighted, this is going to blow 183gb of material onto archive.org. [05:35] And while stuff is missing, I can write scripts to inject stuff back into it pretty easily, now that I've proven it works. [05:36] In other words, this is another huge step in blorting years of files into that place. [05:41] huzzah [05:41] I will be doing a coverdisc collection, too. [05:42] Because holy damn, do I have coverdiscs. [05:53] Oh hey, my friendster tarball finished. Compressed down to 172 GB. [05:57] Oooh, mine has too, down to 209gb [05:58] Okay, so that's the easy part. Time to figure out how to move it. [06:04] http://ia700509.us.archive.org/29/items/cdrom-amigaplusleser-cd16/amigaplusleser-cd162002falkemediadetrack2of2.wav [06:11] SketchCow: Neat, good going :) [06:14] totally downloading this http://www.archive.org/details/cdrom-999wavsforwindows [06:16] DFJustin: for windows? wavs!? [06:25] Obviously, these have all been on cd.textfiles.com for a long time. [06:25] But now you'll be able to download the ISOs. [06:27] i have some spanish shareware cds, from magazines [06:28] i remember a cd travel guide which i used as a CD encyclopedia sometimes [06:28] cool photos but low quality [06:34] I have some shareware CDs somewhere as well [06:35] I have dozens and I've always wondered why I didn't throw all of them away. This could be a good reason. [06:35] perhaps I can locate them and see if they're not dupes [06:36] But they're more recent, mostly early 2000s IIRC, what's the copyright status of all these things? [06:37] we dont care so much about that, for the sake of history [06:37] Uh. [06:37] I also have a bunch of floppy disks, I think. [06:38] PCGenius, a popular PC manual of the 1990s [06:38] (in Italy) [06:39] FamilyPC, ComputerHoy and many more in Spain [06:40] Might even be the same. [06:40] But those two I bought. [06:40] What's the publisher? [06:40] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Familypc [06:41] www.computerhoy.es [06:41] axelspringer [06:42] DeAgostini [06:42] Different one, although it bought several publishers in Spain IIRC [06:52] I got down to the B's. [06:52] I'll finish the B's, do the rest as I can tomorrow [06:52] Scarily enough, I can do this whole thing on my iPad [06:56] SketchCow, do you have floppy disks automatic readers? I'd happily send you some. :-D [06:56] It's a pain to read them. [06:58] Show me a photo [06:59] A photo? [07:00] I see [07:00] You mean send me floppies [07:00] not send me an automatic reader [07:00] got it [07:00] OK, night! [07:01] o/ [07:02] yes, sorry :-p [07:02] Doesn't the IA archive floppies? [07:09] I wonder how hard it'll be to convince 8bc to whip up an API... [07:11] Page generated in 0.97442817687988 seconds. jesus, suddenly i feel good about my 1/4second php pages [07:12] huh, they are serving mp3 through https [07:14] Actually, as far as web API design goes, I'm not really experienced. I note they don't identify things by an ID, but that could be mod_rewrite trickery, I think? [07:15] I'm curious what's slowing them down so much, now that you bring it up. [07:16] What the frack [07:16] Google Reader has lost a lot of my subscriptions [07:16] Nemo_bis: IA archive all. [07:16] I'm *sure* I had more than these [07:16] Oops, I'm a retard [07:16] emijrp, yes, but not necessarily with internal resources [07:16] It hid all subscriptions who hasn't had post updates >_> [07:17] it can't lose anything, the data is safe because it is distributed in the cloud [07:18] Hahaha, good one. [07:21] There is nothing more unstable than a fucking real cloud. What a stupid name. [07:23] This is true. But on the other hand, I think it's pretty accurate. [07:29] It's quite difficult to destroy a cloud, though. [07:31] not with the right chemicals i think [07:31] Do they need to be destroyed? Prevailing weather patterns tend to dissolve and mangle them fairly quickly if I remember my meteorology. [07:32] You cand estroy a cloud with low temperatures. [07:34] Water cycle: open a new cloud service, water (data) rises, low temperature, raining, all data destroyed. Open a new coud service, data raises... [07:35] I call it "The Idiot Cloud Services Cycle". [07:50] Althought IA is "our" cloud, but we use to save a local copy of all. [07:50] Time to clone IA. [08:56] the difference between IA and a cloud subscription service is that the IA servers store data that IA cares about [08:56] rather than data that a subscriber cares about [08:58] I would say, "Don't feed that". But now it's too late. [09:14] if you care about your data, dont leave it long time in a single place [09:14] they are working in a mirror site, but no news from long time [09:40] It's a super non-trivial problem to mirror that much stuff to multiple locations and keep it in sync. I don't envy the team on that one bit. [09:44] hey, im not blaming at them [09:45] if you buy a 2TB disk and use all space for single copies instead of mirror 1 TB over 1 TB, its your fault [09:45] (in 2 differents 1 TB disks) [09:53] question: how healthy (money) is IA? [10:12] emijrp: It's AFAIK only got one large benefactor [10:12] which is the founder [10:13] "Founded in 1996 and located in San Francisco, the Archive has been receiving data donations from Alexa Internet " [10:13] urr, data donations? Hm. [10:16] i think the got some good grants [10:17] but not sure how big and if they wasted all yet [10:19] Man. I want a dump of all IA items metadata. [10:19] We can't explore that huge library using handy queries. [10:23] I want a way to extract all spanish books, for example, by date. [10:23] Only NOT_IN_COPYRIGHT, etc, etc [10:31] I'm going to request it in IA forums, if I find the proper forum (there are a zillion) [10:37] By the way, a dump of Open Library http://ia600200.us.archive.org/22/items/oldumps/ [10:38] this is some months later http://ia600305.us.archive.org/14/items/ol-backup/ [11:37] http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Chaos_Communications_Camp_2011 [11:39] ersi: http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Chaos_Communications_Camp_2011 [11:46] lol, the Freedombox project is so fucking doomed [11:46] jch: yeah, saw it [11:46] Good initiative [11:47] jch, where are you? [11:47] Denmark [11:47] and I'm in Sweden [11:47] Moving to Sweden just before the camp though [11:48] i totally missed easterhegg :( [11:48] :( [11:48] I'm interested in that KryoFlux [11:48] Me too [11:48] Nemo_bis: Cool, are you EU-based [11:48] Italy [11:48] Cool [11:49] I have a lot of floppies to read with possibly important commercial/work data, couldn't read many of them [11:49] Are you going to CCC [11:49] There is quite a few italians going [11:49] yeah, there's always an Italy Village [11:49] There was in 07 at least [11:50] last time, someone had like.. a shitload of grappa, which he was giving away to everyone o_o [11:50] haha [11:50] I think I was there [11:50] No, I'm not coming. [11:50] :( [11:50] ersi, from veneto? [11:50] Was it legal grappa? [11:51] http://events.ccc.de/camp/2011/wiki/Italian_Embassy [11:51] There are lots of clandestine distilleries:-p [11:51] Archiving that wiki. [11:51] Nemo_bis: No idea :) [11:51] I like hanging out around the Belgians [11:51] Belgian Beer, mmh. [11:51] :) [11:52] I smoked a lot of weed last year. I think I'll try to stay a little more clear this year around [11:52] last time* [11:55] * Nemo_bis just sent an email to some wikimedia-related mailing lists spamming ccc [11:57] You did what? [11:57] emijrp: you can probably get someone to give you a nice dump of those wikis [11:58] Are there more? [11:58] jch, put me (federicoleva@tiscali.it) on your list to share cost for that KryoFlux, we'll se how to manage it. If you advertise it properly, I like the idea of rescuing attendees' floppies a lot. [11:59] well, at least http://events.ccc.de/congress/ [11:59] Nemo_bis: thanks [12:01] Spirit_: interesting, thanks [12:48] I want an Internet Archive channel. [12:49] make it [12:52] 2005 http://www.archive.org/post/38352/who-wants-to-start-an-irc-channel [12:54] irc.freenode.org/archive [12:54] if was used last time in 2006 [12:55] IA is hiring [12:55] I fulfil the requirements for 'Engineer Petabox Team' [12:55] http://www.archive.org/about/archivejobs.php#Engineer Petabox Team [12:58] heh, #archive on freenode is apparently still registered [13:00] we can invade the channel and claim it in a few days [13:00] lul [13:01] we can use it, jsut no one will have op [13:03] Perhaps it's better to use this channel and nothing else [13:04] Nemo_bis: Internet Archive and Archive Team are two different efforts [13:05] is there a way to batch save all the google reader articles i have [13:06] Probably ;) [13:06] I don't knwo how google reader works [13:07] jch, i know, but is there any IA staffer or whatever on IRC? [13:07] Well, they employ SketchCow [13:08] He doesn't represent them per se but he works for them [13:08] ive been looking for cheap offsite backup space, and you know what ive realized? mist of them use their own client, (windows) or are really expensive, $40+ for 30gb/mo, does anubody offer something i can pay, and upload to with filezilla? [13:08] You want a webdav host [13:09] YES exaclty, how much? [13:09] I don't know, google around [13:09] http://www.a2hosting.com/web-development/webdav-hosting?gclid=CP_oyeCClaoCFUq_zAodIXlPwA [13:09] That was an ad-supported link from google [13:09] jch, I mean, someone who wouldn't want to use this channel [13:09] I neither know or endorse them [13:10] Nemo_bis: wouldn't count on it. I think IA likes us [13:10] so... [13:11] well, you don't upload with fz, because it uses their client, but it isn't windows-only: tarsnap [13:14] I use spideroak [13:14] That also needs a separate client [13:20] bsmith093: http://www.kimsufi.co.uk/ [13:20] or maybe tarsnap? [13:20] http://www.archive.org/post/385194/metadata-dump-for-all-internet-archive-items [13:20] or rackspace? [13:36] Morning. [13:36] Hi [13:38] http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=collection%3Acdbbsarchive&sort=-publicdate [13:38] They all came in. [13:42] are you sure eg the blood shareware disc is legal to share [13:42] i know that one must not share the quake shareware [13:44] Isn't the point in shareware to, you know, share it? [13:44] As part of our ongoing enhancements to the online customer [13:44] Dear Verizon Internet User: [13:44] Internet customers. As a result of this ongoing effort, [13:44] Verizon Online is making modifications to the Internet [13:44] experience, Verizon continues to ensure security for our [13:44] access provided to you. These modifications will occur on [13:44] August 21, 2011. For security reasons, Verizon will no [13:44] longer allow users to FTP their HTML files to the personal [13:44] web site Verizon offers. [13:44] Verizon recommends that current FTP users download their [13:44] files prior to August 21, 2011 to prevent any data loss. [13:44] Verizon is shutting off many user homepages. [13:44] Shit. [13:44] jch: quake shareware CD had the whole game "encrypted" on it [13:44] Oh ok [13:44] heh [13:45] also cd audio [13:45] i asked id software about it a while ago because it would have been a nice loophole for the soundtrack [13:45] * jch tries to think up word plays for an IRC channel for the verizon project [13:46] norizon? [13:46] something with horizon [13:46] or "veri zoon" [13:46] heh [13:46] that is nice [13:46] veri too zoon [13:47] http://mysite.verizon.net/vzev1mpx [13:47] http://www.google.dk/#sclient=psy&hl=da&source=hp&q=inurl:mysite.verizon.net&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=d474897079cc0c70&biw=1005&bih=799 [13:47] http://mysite.verizon.net/vzev1mpx/maginotlineatwar/ [13:48] I will try to build some hotlists tonight [13:48] what's our IRC channel [13:48] http://mysite.verizon.net/res83zys/ [13:49] Jesus, a month? Bastards. [13:50] This one seemst o have been updated today: http://mysite.verizon.net/whobet/ [13:50] #surprizon [13:53] how appropiate that i have a 1tb server sitting around with no real use for a month [13:53] we need underscor :) [13:54] jch: site:mysite.verizon.net rather [13:54] good point [13:57] it might be a good idea to collect ISPs with free website hosting [13:58] it seems ISP supported web hosting is a thing of the past [14:03] Oh, and there's a Verizon customer now [14:03] Well, before we panic, let me think. [14:03] Is Verizon shutting OFF this service? or just FTP? [14:04] See, it's weird to go "If you have FTP, get the stuff by the 21st." [14:04] To prevent data loss. [14:04] FTP is hard. Let's go shopping! [14:05] Create your own Web site with Verizon Online Site Builder. Site Builder lets you design and build a site without knowing HTML or having a technical background. Site Builder doesn't require any software and everything can be done online. Choose from over 200 site designs and simply follow the instructions to create a complete site. You can easily add photos, video, sound, weather maps, message boards and more. [14:05] Site Builder is free with your Internet access service and available to all Verizon Online subscribers. [14:05] Use the Site Builder tool to create your website. [14:05] s/FTP/HTML/ [14:06] Perhaps they mean that if you have lots of directories and so on FTP might be only feasible way to download them? [14:06] http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r26111924-FTP-for-personal-web-site-gone [14:07] even if they do not shut it down it sounds like they kinda want to [14:07] and it looks like 4MB per customer on the dslreports link [14:08] Personally, I think it's worth going after. [14:24] SketchCow: Could I get you to retweet this: http://twitter.com/#!/jchillerup/status/94380764568895488 [14:26] Speaking of ISP-provided hosting, Earthlink is still in business. Do they still give customers space? [14:48] I'm new here and was lurking a bit. I wish to help now, to start off I have unlimited and fast cable internet access from Ziggo (The Netherlands). :-P [14:50] Is there anything I can do? :-) [14:50] There's always something :) [14:51] I think I will go downloading the torrents first. [14:51] & seeding [14:53] Sounds great :) [14:53] Hang around if you'd like, we got projects coming and going [14:54] Okay. :-) [14:54] just make sure you have lots of storage space :) [15:13] Retweeted [15:13] We need to organize things rather fast for CCC. [15:14] I also have really streamlined the CD upload. Depending on other facts, I may get tons of gigabytes up today [15:14] My boss will flip when she sees the queue and there's dozensof uploads. [15:17] brb. [15:26] Oooh, the Neo Geo Programmers Guide was released to the public! [15:26] where [15:27] I don't know if it was _intended_ to be released, but it's up. http://www.qfpost.com/download.do?get=668171e0bf378ec28206ba43f81bfb79 [15:28] ah that one , second time i see it [15:29] Oh, I guess it was uploaded about a month ago. [15:29] Still, it's new to me [15:30] seems it's origin is the neo-geo.com forum [15:30] I have so many CDs of a certain type, I have to make a new collection on archive.org. [15:30] CD Action magazine coverdiscs [16:03] any idea how to get all replies from http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/iwe4o/whats_the_most_fucked_up_thing_you_used_to_think/ ? [16:03] the "load more" only gets like 50 more each time :( [16:11] hmm that cd collection needs a collection image, I suggest incorporating http://stupidco.com/aol_throne_finished.html [16:11] SketchCow: thanks [16:11] i'm gonna bring enough hard drives to CCC [16:12] I have 6TB just lying around empty [16:14] You sound like you have money concerns, though. [16:14] If a $100 card is causing you issues [16:14] So no banner :) [16:18] We really want the kryofux to be tested and working, and you comfortable with it for CCC. [16:18] Asking for magazines will take all your time, by the way. [16:18] Go for the stuff hardest to handle, that is, floppies. [16:19] print a huge blue rhombus and write "we'll get your floppy back up" on it [16:39] SketchCow: I'm gonna buy a KryoFlux in the beginning o fAugust, regardless [16:44] I'll hunt for a 5.25" drive in my hackerspace tonight [16:59] jch, what about 3.5"? [16:59] I have a 3.5 [16:59] ok [16:59] right here, actually [17:51] SketchCow, how do I change metadata of an item via S3? [17:51] The command suggested in help file doesn't work for me. [18:52] LOLOLOLOLOL..â« â¬ â« â¬.. archiving all day... LOLOLOLOLOL...â« â¬ â« â¬... [18:52] emijrp, what are you archiving? [18:55] that reminds me, i've got scanning to do [18:56] * Nemo_bis has a vocabulary to scan, 2500 pages :-/ [18:57] btw, perhaps you can help me: what sort of scanner with automatic feeder should I use to scan such vocabulary pages, which are so light? [18:58] I tried a Kyocera TASKalfa 300ci but it jammed almost immediately. [19:15] Nemo_bis: wikis. [19:15] WikiTravel. [19:16] uploading polish one [19:17] ah, yes, I've seen it [19:28] We're happy to continue hosting your project, but I don't think we will raise your quotas for this purpose. [19:28] http://code.google.com/p/support/issues/detail?id=5553 [19:39] That sucks. [19:43] i agree with jacobly's pov [19:50] so, where can we host the dumps? [20:30] :D [20:30] Wassup aliens [20:33] NO YOU. I heard you were abducted. [20:33] Have you heard what's going on in norway? [20:34] Winter? [20:34] more like ~30 people killed in terrorism [20:34] one gunman attacked an island hosting a summer camp and shot everybody he saw [20:34] I read on Wikipedia mainpage. [20:35] one or two hours before a bomb went off in oslo [20:35] damn [20:35] before the complex housing the office of the prime minister [20:35] Whee, downloading the jstor torrent at 3MBps, uploading at 9MBps [20:35] I feel special [20:35] Same goes for me ;) [20:36] I had to limit the upstream on that torrent so as to not disturb te other residents [20:36] I was uploading at 10MB/s, steady [20:36] haha [20:36] awesome [20:36] I'm waiting for ITR to come and bulldoze my door down or something [20:37] "WHY U SEED JSTOR" [20:40] :P [20:41] I wonder if they would notice me downloading all of jstor [20:41] hahaha [20:42] I'd be fucking untraceable [20:42] Since all the gov school students use the same logon [20:42] Instead of unique ones, like the normal students [20:42] that's probably what the arrested dude thought [20:42] And if I clone the mac address of one of the lab computers... [20:42] >.> [20:42] and then do it over wifi [20:42] So they don't know where it's from [20:43] (physically) [20:43] Well, I suppose they could know in about 30 feet [20:43] But they couldn't prove it [20:43] * underscor should probably stop before he ends up in prison [20:43] lesson one must be to not put your game plan in an IRC channel with 74 people [20:43] hahahaha [20:44] 74 people with logs [20:44] 74 archivists. [20:44] lol [20:47] THIS NIGHT DEBATE: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2794529 [22:32] I have now uploaded 202 GB of JSTOR [22:36] i keep reading JSTOR and JSTARS, a system I've worked on :) [22:36] and=as [22:40]