#archiveteam 2011-07-26,Tue

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00:00 🔗 db48x underscor: what info do you want?
00:00 🔗 underscor How far is it along?
00:00 🔗 underscor The Instigator has a project she wants me to work on, and it would come in handy
00:01 🔗 db48x it's quite complete
00:01 🔗 underscor Is it available somewhere?
00:01 🔗 db48x from git, yes
00:02 🔗 underscor ArchiveTeam org?
00:03 🔗 underscor or in someone's private repo?
00:04 🔗 underscor Oh hey, found it in alards
00:04 🔗 underscor +'
00:04 🔗 db48x yea
00:06 🔗 underscor Normal aclocal,automake --add-missing,autoconf,./configure?
00:08 🔗 db48x configure
00:13 🔗 underscor db48x: configure.ac:41: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_MSG_NOTICE
00:15 🔗 underscor That's from autoconf
00:15 🔗 underscor Oh hey, the generated configure works
00:28 🔗 underscor welp, or not
01:47 🔗 SketchCow http://www.king-cart.com/cgi-bin/cart.cgi?store=elektrolumens
02:45 🔗 swebb The google groups profile tracker seems to be giving 501's.
02:45 🔗 swebb Stopped issuing work a few hours ago.
03:00 🔗 SketchCow http://www.archive.org/details/philosophicaltransactions
03:01 🔗 SketchCow awwwwwwww shit son
03:58 🔗 underscor SketchCow: :D
05:42 🔗 SketchCow I've just created a silly script for my ISOs
05:45 🔗 arbin_ what does it do?
05:45 🔗 SketchCow Adds a file listing and image montage.
06:00 🔗 illunatic SketchCow: that is cool
06:01 🔗 illunatic image montage from video?
06:01 🔗 SketchCow No no
06:02 🔗 SketchCow http://www.archive.org/download/SharewareBreakthroughDesktopPub_271/
06:02 🔗 SketchCow See the files graphics-gallery.png, file_listing-*
06:02 🔗 SketchCow These are being generated
06:02 🔗 SketchCow So you don't just have an ISO, you have file listings
06:04 🔗 illunatic oh i see
06:06 🔗 illunatic that's a lot of images. some repeat
06:08 🔗 illunatic http://www.anarchive.com/ i knida wish i had this one
06:10 🔗 illunatic (the domain)
06:11 🔗 SketchCow http://ia600509.us.archive.org/13/items/SharewareBreakthroughDesktopPub_271/graphics-gallery.png
06:35 🔗 Nemo_bis SketchCow, great!
07:02 🔗 Coderjoe whole lot of copyright violations by the original publishers of that disc
07:02 🔗 Coderjoe I see star wars and a bunch of playboy images
07:02 🔗 Coderjoe (including the ubiquitious lenna)
07:04 🔗 SketchCow Well, uh yeah
07:06 🔗 Coderjoe is Shareware Breakthrough Utilities & Productivity Collection For Windows v2.0 in your collection?
07:07 🔗 Coderjoe baha
07:08 🔗 Coderjoe HTML Web Publisher's Construction Kit, (c) 1995 The Waite Group(r), Inc.
07:08 🔗 Coderjoe (in my stack of CDs I'm looking through)
07:12 🔗 SketchCow We're some ways away before I can give canonical info on what we have and don't have
07:13 🔗 Coderjoe I think I have a Shareware Breakthrough games disc somwhere, too
07:55 🔗 jch 500GB of JSTOR uploaded
07:58 🔗 Nemo_bis jch, where?
07:58 🔗 jch bittorrent
07:58 🔗 SketchCow ha ha
07:58 🔗 SketchCow Where.
07:58 🔗 Nemo_bis I though of the 600 GiB underscor is uploading :-p
07:58 🔗 Nemo_bis Only 300 here
08:04 🔗 SketchCow jch: Where's this new torrent?
08:05 🔗 jch It's the same torrent
08:05 🔗 jch I've just uploaded a lot of data on it
08:06 🔗 SketchCow Oh, oh.
08:07 🔗 SketchCow I was all excited
08:07 🔗 SketchCow As everything went insane
08:37 🔗 ersi :D
08:37 🔗 ersi That'd be nice, a complete mirror of all of JSTOR's articles
08:38 🔗 Nemo_bis ersi, that's why Aaron Swartz was arrested
08:39 🔗 Nemo_bis (that is, the *possibility* he wanted to do that... more or less)
08:39 🔗 ersi no, he was arrested for being a douche
08:39 🔗 ersi that's different
08:39 🔗 Nemo_bis ok, if you say so
08:39 🔗 Nemo_bis :-p
08:39 🔗 ersi failtastic
08:39 🔗 SketchCow Oh boy let's argue this for weeks
08:42 🔗 ersi I won't argue about it
09:23 🔗 Nemo_bis http://outofcopyright.eu/calculator.html
11:08 🔗 bbot_ Cowering: hey, quit that
11:11 🔗 ersi bbot_: Just setup your client to ignore join/quits
11:11 🔗 bbot_ that's the easy way out
11:13 🔗 ersi You won't fix every connection problem there is around all the channels
11:13 🔗 ersi it's a made up problem
16:00 🔗 SketchCow BEST PROBLEMS ARE MADE UP PROBLEMS
16:03 🔗 jch BEST PROBLEMS ARE THOSE THAT ARISE *AFTER* A SOLUTION HAS BEEN FOUND
16:04 🔗 jch "a solution looking for a problem". Full-body x-ray scanners being one of them
16:05 🔗 SketchCow Rendering stuff for GDC
16:05 🔗 jch writing asp.net at work.
17:01 🔗 Spirit_ if i had a gazillion dollars i would download every scene release and sit on it until copyright expires
17:30 🔗 SketchCow Balls, this Star Wars Forum archive? What the fuck, kids.
17:30 🔗 SketchCow It's almost untenably huge.
17:30 🔗 SketchCow I'm doing my best, but daaaaamn.
17:32 🔗 underscor SketchCow: Heh, it's not THAT big
17:32 🔗 underscor It'll probably fuck your filesystem though
17:32 🔗 underscor It's a couple million inodes worth
17:33 🔗 Spirit_ http://www.humblebundle.com/ new
17:33 🔗 swebb1 underscor: you can run mkfs and specify how many inodes you want, or use reiserfs which doesn't use inodes.
17:34 🔗 underscor Oh, I know; I was just telling jason
17:34 🔗 SketchCow Thanks for the news!
17:34 🔗 SketchCow I am just trying to get this thing going.
17:35 🔗 SketchCow Clearing out our additional machines, uploading friendster to archive.org, etc.
17:35 🔗 underscor Fun, fun
17:36 🔗 underscor ./amazonRainforest.sh updateCatalog
17:36 🔗 underscor Er, wrong windows
17:36 🔗 underscor s/s//
17:38 🔗 SketchCow I suspect today is a terabyte of transfer day.
17:38 🔗 SketchCow At least.
17:38 🔗 underscor That's awesome
17:42 🔗 Coderjoe just don't store a reiserfs filesystem image on a reiserfs filesystem
17:43 🔗 SketchCow Kills your wife
17:43 🔗 Coderjoe at least at one point, fsck would, in some situations at least, splice the image into the outer filesystem
17:43 🔗 SketchCow I love, looking back, the whole "Well, she won't be able to take the kids back to Russia if I just MURDER HER IN THE CAR"
17:43 🔗 SketchCow Dude, fucking engineering
17:44 🔗 SketchCow Exhaust all other routes
17:44 🔗 SketchCow There's amazing ways to completely wreck a spouse in the US
17:44 🔗 swebb1 Just another case of 'awesome programmer really has no social skills'. :)
17:44 🔗 SketchCow Yeah
17:44 🔗 SketchCow Seriously, restraining order with allegations of sexual abuse, that'll get you a month or two
17:44 🔗 SketchCow Then seize her cash
17:45 🔗 Coderjoe iirc, the car was a mess from attempting to dispose
17:45 🔗 SketchCow Quality
17:45 🔗 SketchCow Really?
17:45 🔗 SketchCow Rent a car, put her in it, push car into water
17:45 🔗 Coderjoe mmm
17:45 🔗 Coderjoe memory hole
17:45 🔗 Coderjoe http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110724/11263315224/oracle-deletes-jonathan-schwartzs-old-blog-which-excitedly-celebrated-googles-use-java-android.shtml
17:45 🔗 SketchCow Yes
17:45 🔗 SketchCow and archive.org saved it
17:46 🔗 SketchCow They've already answered the subpeona
17:46 🔗 db48x2 heh, I thought the same thing when I read about that
17:46 🔗 underscor Wow, this is so cool
17:46 🔗 underscor I just realized you can use sed syntax in skype
17:46 🔗 underscor That's amazing <3
17:46 🔗 SketchCow For variant measure of 'cool'
17:47 🔗 underscor :P
17:47 🔗 underscor Shut up, things like that bring joy to my day
17:47 🔗 underscor ;D
17:49 🔗 Spirit_ for SketchCow http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4919/picture003ia.jpg
17:49 🔗 Spirit_ not mine
17:50 🔗 SketchCow Nice. Where is it.
17:50 🔗 Spirit_ http://vogons.zetafleet.com/viewtopic.php?t=22676
17:50 🔗 swebb1 I still play some of those games. :) Falcon 4. Age of Mythology. Quake II. :)
17:52 🔗 SketchCow https://picasaweb.google.com/mmaginnis/KansasFest2011ExhibitorAndVendorFair
17:53 🔗 underscor SketchCow: My mom said you remind her of an older me
17:53 🔗 underscor hahahaha
17:55 🔗 Spirit_ something for the ISP hosting mirroring lovers: http://wayback.archive.org/web/*/http://web.mclink.it/*
17:55 🔗 swebb1 http://www.flickr.com/photos/scumola/3390083529/ I've got a signed Apple ][+ lid that Woz signed for me in the early 80's. Don't have the machine anymore though.
17:55 🔗 SketchCow http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=collection%3Acdbbsarchive&sort=-publicdate&page=6
17:55 🔗 SketchCow You can see which I'm finished fixing and which will get more fixing.
17:55 🔗 SketchCow Turns out Ubuntu CD image mounting is superior to FreeBSD
17:56 🔗 SketchCow At least, for my scripts.
17:58 🔗 SketchCow I absolutely want lots of CDs
17:58 🔗 SketchCow But bear in mind, right now, i have a fuckton of them.
17:59 🔗 SketchCow I mean, SO MANY, and both sites will have all of them soon.
18:03 🔗 SketchCow Other good news
18:03 🔗 SketchCow The final FINAL defcon schedule came out.
18:04 🔗 SketchCow I AM speaking in the Penn and Teller theater.
18:04 🔗 SketchCow Floorplan: http://www.pennandteller.com/03/webimages/floorplan.gif
18:04 🔗 SketchCow Shot of it being used: http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4054/4287773114_53c670c2b7.jpg
18:06 🔗 SketchCow http://www.flickr.com/photos/lenoralenoire/5666052809/
18:07 🔗 Spirit_ http://www.nfbnet.org/files/
18:08 🔗 SketchCow what's in there, I can't see anything
18:08 🔗 SketchCow haw
18:09 🔗 Spirit_ heh
18:13 🔗 SketchCow Uploading to the GDC Vault: The original XBOX announcement by Bill Gates, 2000.
18:13 🔗 SketchCow Oh, so many candy-colored promises.
18:13 🔗 lemonkey ha
18:14 🔗 lemonkey that one picture that shows the makeover of seamus is great
18:14 🔗 lemonkey er not seamus..
18:22 🔗 SketchCow Little brother exploded the net connection.
18:22 🔗 SketchCow But we saved it!
18:46 🔗 DFJustin lol 208mb png at http://www.archive.org/details/GifsGalore_Aug92
18:56 🔗 db48x2 heh
18:56 🔗 db48x2 the thumbnail is a bit useless
19:18 🔗 emijrp What is that? A Longcat portrait?
19:18 🔗 SketchCow Yeah!
19:19 🔗 SketchCow I agree, the thumbnail's a problem
19:30 🔗 SketchCow I'm mirroring that nfbnet.org fileset, thanks, Spirit_
19:30 🔗 SketchCow Seems completist and useful, and could disappear
19:33 🔗 SketchCow Not even that big.
19:44 🔗 SketchCow Sweet, a whole 20K/s
19:59 🔗 jch Who pays for all the network traffic Archive.org generates
20:00 🔗 jch I take it archive.org does. Where do they get their money from?
20:00 🔗 SketchCow You know what I'm sick of?
20:00 🔗 SketchCow Meat (low-carb diet)
20:00 🔗 SketchCow And that question
20:00 🔗 jch haha.
20:00 🔗 jch Seriously though
20:00 🔗 SketchCow Duh, Multi-Level Marketing Scam
20:00 🔗 SketchCow want to buy some awesome hand cream?
20:01 🔗 SketchCow I mean, awesome hand cream
20:01 🔗 jch ...
20:02 🔗 SketchCow LR: How did you get the funding for it?
20:02 🔗 SketchCow BK: The funding for the Internet Archive came originally from the success of selling a couple of Internet companies on the path towards building a library. So the original funding was from me, based on selling one company, WAIS, Inc. which was the first Internet publishing system, to America Online. And then Alexa Internet, which was a company short for "the Library of Alexandria," to try to catalog the Web. So all of these were trying to build to
20:03 🔗 SketchCow LR: What are some of the grants? Didn't you get some good grants lately, during the past year?
20:03 🔗 SketchCow BK: Oh yes, we've been very fortunate in this phase of the Internet Archive's life. The Sloan Foundation gave us a significant grant towards helping get the materials up and able to be used by researchers all over the world, and the Hewlett Foundation also gave us a sizable grant to bring more digital materials from a lot of non-profit institutions to give them permanent access.
20:03 🔗 SketchCow That's 2004
20:03 🔗 SketchCow http://sca.jiscinvolve.org/wp/2010/07/22/video-robert-miller-of-the-internet-archive-on-funding/
20:03 🔗 SketchCow There's bob talking about it
20:05 🔗 SketchCow I mean, I can keep pasting these
20:05 🔗 SketchCow The fact is, archive.org has a team of people constantly working to secure funding, arrange deals, get contracts to scan books and materials and libraries, and apply for grants.
20:05 🔗 SketchCow You know, like everywhere in the world.
20:06 🔗 SketchCow Oh my god, it is SO BORING to talk about
20:11 🔗 emijrp I want a Brewster creepy banner on the top of my Internet Archive. Just like the Jimbo Wales one.
20:11 🔗 SketchCow Current size of Internet Archive stored items, 2.8 petabytes
20:16 🔗 underscor That's amazing
20:18 🔗 emijrp Lol 2.8 petabytes.
20:20 🔗 emijrp Wikipedia says 5.8 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petabyte#Petabytes_in_use
20:21 🔗 emijrp It says nothing about the 10 petabytes of the secret Internet Archive archives.
20:21 🔗 emijrp Weird.
20:25 🔗 Zebranky Who archives the archivists?
20:26 🔗 emijrp More archivists.
20:27 🔗 SketchCow Well, I'm using an internal thing.
20:28 🔗 SketchCow That internal thing may only be reporting on a smaller set of information.
20:31 🔗 emijrp Wikipedia articles feedback ratings, a recent new feature, dumps http://toolserver.org/~catrope/articlefeedback/
20:49 🔗 Spirit_ lots of old demos and stuff http://ftp.icm.edu.pl/packages/coast/games/
20:52 🔗 yipdw out of curiosity, is anyone archiving or has archived TV Tropes?
20:57 🔗 emijrp We are glad to announce the 100th wiki dump of WikiTeam: English WikiTravel: http://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/downloads/detail?name=wikitravelorg_wiki_en-20110605-current.xml.7z
21:17 🔗 Spirit_ more ISP hosting http://pages.infinit.net/ (with someones awesome inventory lists http://pages.infinit.net/markim/htms/CD-000-124.TXT )
21:18 🔗 Spirit_ i should go to bed
21:38 🔗 SketchCow http://ia600505.us.archive.org/20/items/Astra_922/graphics-gallery.png
21:38 🔗 SketchCow Very informative, these galleries. You see images that have been duped all over these.
21:41 🔗 SketchCow Dear Mr. Scott,
21:41 🔗 SketchCow It has come to my attention upon googling my name that there are some personal and/or embarrassing texts that I had written in the early days of Internet that bear my (rather unique) name and that are immortalized in your textfiles archive. Could I kindly ask you to replace my full name (Sirine Hijal) with my initials in those documents as I am trying to minimize my Internet presence and most of these texts were not meant for public consumption?
21:47 🔗 Wyatt That seems fairly reasonable...
21:49 🔗 Zebranky We're talking about Jason here.
21:50 🔗 emijrp SketchCow: thanks for the tweet
21:51 🔗 Wyatt Oh, we totally are talking about Jason here. Mr. Hijal is totally boned; I wouldn't dare delude myself on that.
21:54 🔗 SketchCow He's lying.
21:55 🔗 SketchCow A distributed-by-internet e-zine handled by e-mail lists and available on dozens of sites is not for public consumption.
21:55 🔗 SketchCow Right.
21:55 🔗 Wyatt I'm not surprised. Ah, I see.
21:57 🔗 SketchCow I mean, obviously nothing he says will affect it, but lying is just lame.
21:59 🔗 SketchCow Farther Observations on the Feet of Animals Whose Progressive Motion Can Be Carried on against Gravity. (January 1, 1815)
22:00 🔗 SketchCow I said in a discussion recently that my opinion is a distributed, massive effort will rip all of JSTOR's holdings out of JSTOR.
22:00 🔗 SketchCow And that archive team will not be doing that.
22:00 🔗 SketchCow Let some other asshole hero hold the touch alight and aloft
22:04 🔗 Nemo_bis some titles are indeed funny
22:22 🔗 db48x2 and now irc logs
22:28 🔗 db48x2 "This file was made by SpyPost in San Francisco in fall 2010 from a new 35mm print made from a new duplicate negative made by Film Technology Company from a vintage print from the Prelinger Archives collection."
22:28 🔗 Coderjoe ...
22:29 🔗 Coderjoe so someone took a 16mm positive print, made a blowup 35mm neg and printed it?
22:30 🔗 db48x2 I think they duplicated the original negative, then printed that as 35mm, then scanned it
22:30 🔗 db48x2 no
22:30 🔗 Coderjoe I didn't think Rick had any original negatives
22:30 🔗 db48x2 they made a negative from the original positive print, then enlarged it to 35mm, then duplicated it
22:31 🔗 db48x2 there should be a diagrame
22:31 🔗 db48x2 diagram
22:33 🔗 * db48x2 sighs
22:33 🔗 db48x2 I'm so close to being out of disk space
22:44 🔗 Wyatt Someone refresh my memory, please....did CNN ever have any credibility?

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