| Time |
Nickname |
Message |
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00:03
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dashcloud |
this is pretty cool: http://addonics.com/products/raid_tower/CPR5SA.asp (small-form factor 5 drive enclosure) |
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00:09
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Wyatt |
Neat. Though my opinion of hardware RAID has decreased as computing power has increased. |
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02:26
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SketchCow |
My opinion remains |
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02:26
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SketchCow |
high |
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02:47
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underscor |
db48x2: alard: Is someone dedicatedly running that script? |
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02:47
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underscor |
(I only ask because I have a gigabit available that's literally 1 hop away from the datanodes) |
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02:51
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underscor |
2011-08-24 02:50:36 (45.3 MB/s) - `/dev/null' saved [104857600/104857600] |
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02:51
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underscor |
That's hot |
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02:51
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Coderjoe |
I remember when the idea of having T1 speeds made me hard |
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02:51
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Coderjoe |
now I have 1.5Mbps up and am left wanting :( |
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02:52
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underscor |
hahaha |
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03:33
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SketchCow |
Extracting Linux Outlaws 039 - Come Back When You Can Grow a Beard.mp3 |
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03:33
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SketchCow |
Extracting Linux Outlaws 040 - Software Freedom, Lawsuits & Poker.mp3 |
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03:33
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SketchCow |
Extracting Linux Outlaws 041 - Now With File Retention Technology.mp3 |
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03:33
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SketchCow |
Extracting Linux Outlaws 042 - Don't Panic!.mp3 |
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03:33
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SketchCow |
Extracting Linux Outlaws 043 - The Unbreakable Car.mp3 |
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03:33
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SketchCow |
Extracting Linux Outlaws 044 - Welcome to KDE 5 (openSUSE 11 Special).mp3 |
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03:33
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SketchCow |
Now I'm adding piles of Linux Outlaws podcasts. |
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03:37
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|
SketchCow |
P.s. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wERs-s_yYVQ |
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03:37
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SketchCow |
Fucking brilliant |
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03:39
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Wyatt |
Speaking of vitriolic Linux stuff, I'm using playing Kdenlive right now; it's pretty damn usable and may even produce decent video at the end. |
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03:40
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Wyatt |
I'm not a filmmaker, so I don't know what features it's missing, but for an average user like myself, it seems pretty sufficient. |
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03:41
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|
Wyatt |
(And yes, I'm pretty surprised to find this out. I was expecting it to crash immediately like Cinelerra) |
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03:42
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SketchCow |
Yes. |
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03:43
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SketchCow |
Is this about my little FUK U LINUX rant? |
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03:44
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Wyatt |
In a sense, though I agree with you that video editing has been a weakness of my own environment of choice for all of its lifespan. |
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03:44
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chronomex |
linux sucks |
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03:44
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Wyatt |
And it's complete nonsense to make someone change the workflow they're comfortable with for something like that. |
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03:44
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chronomex |
I've had the damndest time adding proper page numbering to PDFs |
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03:44
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chronomex |
there doesn't seem to be anything that does it |
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03:45
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Wyatt |
chronomex: Every user has different needs of their hardware and software. Linux makes my job almost sane. |
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03:46
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chronomex |
I'm trolling, can't you tell? |
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03:46
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chronomex |
(but it is a real problem for me) |
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03:46
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Wyatt |
Hey, it's a legitimate argument in some sense. |
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03:46
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|
Wyatt |
On that note, what's the issue you're having? |
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03:47
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chronomex |
I can't find any software that will throw up a page image from a pdf and let you say "this is the page numbered "iv.1", it is where the numbers change to "iv.N" |
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03:47
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chronomex |
and have it update the pdf metadata to reflect that |
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03:51
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Wyatt |
I honestly wasn't aware that the spec supported that (though I'm not surprised in the end. It _is_ PDF) |
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03:55
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Wyatt |
Hmm, 756 pages of spec. Surprsingly slim. |
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04:08
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chronomex |
yeah, did you know that you can embed SWF in PDF files? |
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04:08
🔗
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chronomex |
that makes it a trillion times more complicated |
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04:10
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Wyatt |
Is there anything you can't embed in a PDF? |
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04:10
🔗
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chronomex |
ummmmm |
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04:10
🔗
|
chronomex |
silverlight? |
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04:13
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Wyatt |
Silverlight, like Deus Ex 2, never happened. It was all a dream. |
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04:18
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SketchCow |
Yeah, Silverlight sure exploded, right |
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04:19
🔗
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SketchCow |
I'm sure there were about 30 people who thought that would be the capstone of their careers. |
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04:19
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|
SketchCow |
Silverlight? Did that. |
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04:21
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|
SketchCow |
Yep, that was me. Spec and some of the video handling routines |
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04:29
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Wyatt |
I'm sorry. |
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04:29
🔗
|
Wyatt |
I had no idea you worked on that. |
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04:42
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db48xOthe |
underscor: yea, I ran the script over the whole archive |
|
04:42
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db48xOthe |
on my measly 50Mbps connection |
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04:43
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|
db48xOthe |
well, I say 50Mbps, but it's cable |
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04:43
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db48xOthe |
so of course it was hinky |
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04:44
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db48xOthe |
highest was 7371kBps, lowest was 986kBps |
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04:48
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db48xOthe |
hrm |
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04:48
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|
db48xOthe |
I require more disk space |
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04:48
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|
db48xOthe |
I can't install Deus Ex 3 |
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04:50
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db48xOthe |
it will shortly turn into a calamity |
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05:43
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no2pencil |
my name is mud... |
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05:46
🔗
|
Wyatt |
Is not. Tab completion isn't working for "mud" |
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05:47
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Coderjoe |
winona had a big brown beaver |
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06:09
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no2pencil |
lol |
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06:10
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SketchCow |
-vcodec flv -f flv -r 29.97 -s 512x384 -aspect 4:3 -b 510k -g 160 -cmp dct -subcmp dct -mbd 2 -flags +aic+cbp+mv0+mv4 -trellis 1 -ac 1 -ar 44100 -ab 160k |
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06:10
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SketchCow |
THANKS FFMPEG |
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06:10
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|
SketchCow |
SO EASY |
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06:16
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ersi |
haha |
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06:17
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db48xOthe |
:) |
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06:18
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I'm annoyed, it looks like I WILL have to either type in or have people type in the table of contents for these Ham Radio magazines. |
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06:18
🔗
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SketchCow |
That's a bummer, there's 268. |
|
06:18
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Someone made a Ham Radio Magazine Index, but |
|
06:18
🔗
|
SketchCow |
1. It's obviously by someone with Aspbergers |
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06:18
🔗
|
SketchCow |
2. It's not for human beings |
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06:19
🔗
|
SketchCow |
3. It obviates other people taking the time to work on it. |
|
06:19
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I checked, it's not out there. |
|
06:21
🔗
|
ersi |
How many magz are we talking about? |
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06:21
🔗
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SketchCow |
268, but any that people add is more than there were. |
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06:21
🔗
|
ersi |
Wowza |
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06:31
🔗
|
SketchCow |
http://www.archive.org/details/1968-12-hamradiomag |
|
06:31
🔗
|
SketchCow |
There, I just did one. |
|
06:33
🔗
|
ersi |
Time to hook up the Metadata Warriors |
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06:34
🔗
|
SketchCow |
No, I need them for other things. |
|
06:34
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Not a lot of people have hopped in on metadata warrioring and some are slowing down terribly. |
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06:34
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Although it turns out one guy has been doing tons but not bringing it up, waiting to finish his entire directory. |
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06:34
🔗
|
ersi |
I bet I'm in the 'pile' in yer inbox |
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06:37
🔗
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SketchCow |
Ahhhh fuck. |
|
06:37
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Ham Radio Magazine is still a sold product. |
|
06:38
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Well, let's just keep going, see what shakes out. |
|
06:38
🔗
|
SketchCow |
But I'm going to concentrate on other things. |
|
06:38
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Like Compute! I have all of Compute! |
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06:38
🔗
|
ersi |
:] |
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06:39
🔗
|
chronomex |
SketchCow: I've two issues of something called "PC Disk Magazine", regrettably missing the disks. Shall I mail them your way? |
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06:39
🔗
|
ersi |
I got over a really old electronics magazine in Swedish on a yard sale |
|
06:39
🔗
|
ersi |
Should scan it and up it (Aaany day now..) |
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06:51
🔗
|
ersi |
http://spectrum.ieee.org/automaton/robotics/industrial-robots/fukushima-robot-operator-diaries |
|
06:51
🔗
|
ersi |
Awesome, whoever was reading that.. actually SAVED COPIES before it went away |
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06:51
🔗
|
ersi |
ooh, it's still cached @ google |
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06:58
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|
SketchCow |
537442304 bytes sent in 8.62 secs (60885.5 kB/s) |
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06:58
🔗
|
SketchCow |
More of that |
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10:30
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Interesting... someone is skype calling me at 6:30am my time |
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11:55
🔗
|
ersi |
Bleh, it sucks ass getting data out from Amazon S3 |
|
11:55
🔗
|
ersi |
slowest piece of crap ever |
|
12:05
🔗
|
db48xOthe |
and they charge you for the privilige too |
|
12:06
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I've been uploading so many magazines into archive.org |
|
12:07
🔗
|
ersi |
db48xOthe: no they don't, not me - they bill the one who uploaded it |
|
12:09
🔗
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db48xOthe |
ersi: same diff |
|
12:09
🔗
|
db48xOthe |
SketchCow: their magazine box is probably full |
|
12:09
🔗
|
db48xOthe |
also, be careful if you play Deus Ex |
|
12:09
🔗
|
db48xOthe |
it's suddenly 5am |
|
12:09
🔗
|
ersi |
mmmmh, deux ex |
|
12:10
🔗
|
SketchCow |
My script that jams magazines into archive.org is working VERY well |
|
12:10
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I have to set it up before each run, but for example I'm uploading something like 140 or 160 issues of Compute |
|
12:10
🔗
|
SketchCow |
And it's adding a new one every 6 seconds. |
|
12:10
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I'll have to fine-tune afterwards, but hard to argue |
|
12:11
🔗
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db48xOthe |
mm |
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12:11
🔗
|
SketchCow |
And of course they're all put into an appropriate collection. |
|
12:11
🔗
|
ersi |
that's pretty darn dandy |
|
12:11
🔗
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db48xOthe |
yep |
|
12:11
🔗
|
db48xOthe |
I love automation |
|
12:12
🔗
|
db48xOthe |
SketchCow: just curious, but what do you have to tweak afterwards? |
|
12:12
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Well, I am using the filenames sometimes for metadata |
|
12:12
🔗
|
SketchCow |
When 99% say May_1988 and one says Fall_1988, it comes out mangled. |
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12:13
🔗
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db48xOthe |
ah :) |
|
12:13
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Sometimes the people who assembled, screwed up filenames |
|
12:13
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Sometimes I just need to tune the na,e. |
|
12:13
🔗
|
SketchCow |
http://www.archive.org/details/01-big-k-magazine |
|
12:13
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Meanwhile, now that I'm using WinFF to generate GDC videos, THOSE are coming up hugely fast |
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12:14
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db48xOthe |
heh |
|
12:15
🔗
|
db48xOthe |
the name was the last thing I could find on the cover |
|
12:17
🔗
|
db48xOthe |
the old ads are fun to read |
|
12:17
🔗
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db48xOthe |
PURE MACHINE CODE |
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12:17
🔗
|
db48xOthe |
4 galaxies |
|
12:17
🔗
|
db48xOthe |
hall of fame |
|
12:21
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Up to issue 78! |
|
12:22
🔗
|
SketchCow |
http://www.archive.org/details/your-commodore-magazine |
|
12:23
🔗
|
db48xOthe |
man, I should have slept |
|
12:23
🔗
|
SketchCow |
The archive.org machinery will take hours to get through all this |
|
12:24
🔗
|
db48xOthe |
boy, that's terrible |
|
12:25
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Now up to issue 102! |
|
12:26
🔗
|
SketchCow |
ha ha, archive.org admin pinging me in skype |
|
12:26
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I WONDER WHAT ABOUT |
|
12:26
🔗
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db48xOthe |
heh |
|
12:27
🔗
|
db48xOthe |
he shouldn't complain, as long as the machines don't _actually_ catch on fire |
|
12:27
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Well, let's see. |
|
12:28
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Conversation went |
|
12:28
🔗
|
SketchCow |
"could you slow down the uploads" |
|
12:28
🔗
|
SketchCow |
"no" |
|
12:28
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Essentially. |
|
12:28
🔗
|
db48xOthe |
:) |
|
12:28
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I will not upload any after the compute archive. |
|
12:30
🔗
|
db48xOthe |
hahaha: "Holy crap! As an area of the cracker cooks, it bubbles up in just a few seconds, leaving clear marks as to where there is microwave power and where there isn't. For this particular microwave, Saturn-shaped objects will cook evenly." |
|
12:30
🔗
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db48xOthe |
http://www.evilmadscientist.com/ |
|
12:35
🔗
|
SketchCow |
ha ha, now we're arguing |
|
12:39
🔗
|
db48xOthe |
:) |
|
12:39
🔗
|
db48xOthe |
do the machines feel pain? |
|
12:39
🔗
|
db48xOthe |
do they get clogged? |
|
12:40
🔗
|
SketchCow |
They do |
|
12:40
🔗
|
SketchCow |
He claims it's rare. |
|
12:40
🔗
|
SketchCow |
it's not rare. |
|
12:40
🔗
|
SketchCow |
OCR takes a long time. it just does. |
|
12:40
🔗
|
db48xOthe |
the queue may back up, but no plumbers are required |
|
12:41
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|
db48xOthe |
so it doesn't seem like there are any good reasons to slow down |
|
12:41
🔗
|
db48xOthe |
well, time for me to go to work |
|
12:51
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SketchCow |
Well, as I suspect, a PILE of Hams are coming out of the woodwork with the plan to help describe Ham Radio Magazinew |
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13:05
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|
ersi |
Sweet |
|
13:53
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|
ats |
SketchCow: I'm not surprised given how common "does anyone have [issue X] of [1960s/1970s radio magazine]?" requests are on radio-related mailing lists... |
|
13:54
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|
ats |
with the exception of the magazines published by the national clubs (QEX, RadCom, etc.), most magazines aren't getting digitised except by amateurs |
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14:27
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DFJustin |
metadata seems wrong on this http://www.archive.org/details/antic-magazine-disks |
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17:10
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|
DFJustin |
lol at the front page of archive.org, http://www.archive.org/details/70sNunsploitationClipsNunsBehavingBadlyInBizarreFetishFilms |
|
17:26
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Coderjoe |
... |
|
17:27
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|
Coderjoe |
i get the feeling Spank my Booty by Lords of Acid would make a fitting soundtrack |
|
17:47
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|
chronomex |
hahaha |
|
18:10
🔗
|
illunatic |
http://blog.greenpirate.org/stop-taxing-pixels/ |
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18:10
🔗
|
illunatic |
stop taxing pixels! |
|
18:11
🔗
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Wyatt |
But it's fun! |
|
18:12
🔗
|
DFJustin |
dad-gum fiat currency |
|
18:33
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|
phik |
hey guys, wasnt telehack.com one your projects? its just that its offline atm |
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18:36
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chronomex |
not ours, but it is 100% Archiveteam Approved (TM) |
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18:38
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|
phik |
hmm i hope theres a archive of it as its gone offline and i cant seem to find any other infomation on its status. |
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19:05
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sankin1 |
Is there any good way to save articles / newspapers from the Google News Archives? |
|
20:12
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|
Wyatt |
Interesting, a fandub parody of Inu-Yasha and LotR is in my possession and Google seems to have no clue it exists. |
|
20:13
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|
Wyatt |
What to do, what to do... |
|
20:13
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db48x2 |
score |
|
20:14
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ndurner |
db48x2: are you still running the ggroups script? |
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20:15
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Wyatt |
Looks like DV video and 16-bit PCM sound. It's a hefty 6.9G for 33:57 |
|
20:17
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db48x2 |
ndurner: which one? |
|
20:17
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|
ndurner |
I need more *download*ers, that's why I'm asking |
|
20:18
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db48x2 |
I don't have any disk space left, I'm afraid |
|
20:18
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ndurner |
if you can spare the resources, could you switch from discovering to downloading? |
|
20:18
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ndurner |
mh |
|
20:18
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|
Wyatt |
What's this about a script needing run? |
|
20:19
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|
Wyatt |
I take it we're backing up Google Groups because they're not trustworthy. Where's the script? |
|
20:20
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ndurner |
We're downloading files associated with individual Google Groups because we can do so rather cheaply until Aug 31 |
|
20:20
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|
ndurner |
archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Google_Groups_Files |
|
20:21
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|
illunatic |
hey guys i am having trouble getting ahold of the stanford programming methodology torrents |
|
20:21
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|
illunatic |
http://coursetorrent.stanford.edu:6969/torrents/cs106a-lecture01.mp4.torrent?FC70D4D40F781ECFBAF3D3FDE7BB75416106EB32 |
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20:21
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|
illunatic |
anyone know if these are archived anywhere? |
|
20:21
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ndurner |
(caution: normal mode of operation is discovery, not download!) |
|
20:21
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|
illunatic |
youtube is really inconvenient |
|
20:22
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|
illunatic |
http://see.stanford.edu/see/courses.aspx |
|
20:22
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|
illunatic |
how can there be no seeds on free education :( |
|
20:22
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Wyatt |
ndurner: And this is all more or less automated? No claiming ranges and such? |
|
20:22
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|
ndurner |
yes, absolutely! |
|
20:22
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|
ndurner |
fire & forget |
|
20:22
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|
Wyatt |
Nice |
|
20:22
🔗
|
Wyatt |
Well I'll set some comput resources on it. Any way of setting limits? |
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20:23
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ndurner |
I do that centrally (it uses Google App Engine to coordinate ;-)) |
|
20:23
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|
ndurner |
thanks! |
|
20:23
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Wyatt |
Clever. I mean for my own connection's sake though. |
|
20:24
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Wyatt |
My housemates don't like me eating all of our bandwidth. ;) |
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20:28
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DFJustin |
the ggroups script doesn't eat much bandwidth because most of its time is spent in overhead contacting the server etc |
|
20:28
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DFJustin |
if you have a monthly cap it adds up fairly quickly though |
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20:28
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Wyatt |
Ahh. |
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20:29
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Wyatt |
Does it work to open multiple sessions? |
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20:29
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DFJustin |
I believe so but I haven't tried |
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20:30
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ndurner |
Not using the same IP address, that'd get you banned by Google pretty quickly |
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20:31
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Wyatt |
Ahh, I see. |
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20:31
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Wyatt |
Downloading alt.startrek.vs.starwars << Fuck yeah. |
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20:31
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ndurner |
:-) |
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20:32
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DFJustin |
do any of the usenet ones even have files |
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20:32
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DFJustin |
also the status on the wiki is really out of date |
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20:33
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ndurner |
True usenet groups don't. But some Google Groups are just named in the same fashion. |
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20:33
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ndurner |
true... |
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21:56
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chronomex |
ndurner: I can run ggroups, point me in the right direction? |
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22:15
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Coderjoe |
Wyatt: (fandub parodies) give me copies? :D |
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22:18
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Wyatt |
Coderjoe: Well, I only have one right now (though I can probably sore a few more from some of my con contacts). |
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22:18
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Wyatt |
I was thinking of transcoding to MP4 because it's WAAAAY too huge right now. |
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22:19
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Coderjoe |
i'd kinda like the highest quality possible, within reason. |
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dashcloud |
SketchCow: not to distract from something that works well for you, but if you just need h264 in a container (mp4, flv, mkv), x264 w/ffmpeg builtin may be all you need |
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Coderjoe |
I wonder how ffv2 would work on it |
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Wyatt |
Coderjoe: I was actually just looking into that. |
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22:20
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Coderjoe |
(unfortunately, last time i looked, ffv2 was only available as a patch) |
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22:20
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Wyatt |
Is it significantly better than FFV1? |
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22:21
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Wyatt |
And I wonder how HuffYUV compares. I haven't actually dealt with lossless video since my LD rip adventure. |
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Coderjoe |
in my testing, it was in most cases |
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Coderjoe |
I don't have any recorded numbers from my testing, other than two modes of ffv2 |
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22:22
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Wyatt |
(Just discovered; I still have 37GB of ffv1 Arcadia of my Youth) |
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db48x2 |
basically any video encoding task ends up coming back to ffmepg sooner or later |
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22:22
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Coderjoe |
and that was to highlight a bug in ffv2 |
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22:22
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Coderjoe |
http://wegetsignal.org/tmp/ffv2compare.php |
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22:23
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Coderjoe |
"bits" mode was supposed to take the i/p block that resulted in a smaller file. it frequently did not |
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db48x2 |
lol |
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Wyatt |
Quite. |
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22:24
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dashcloud |
considering there's really very few actual video encoder vendors around anymore, it happens |
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Coderjoe |
huffyuv will usually be larger than ffv1 or ffv2. huffyuv deals entirely with keyframes. |
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Coderjoe |
and as a result, does not remove temporal redundancy |
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Wyatt |
Ah |
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Coderjoe |
ffv2 actually incorproates a number of things I was considering experimenting with |
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Coderjoe |
but, like I said, it was still an external patch the last time I played with it |
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Coderjoe |
thought ffv2 was limited to yuv420 |
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Wyatt |
For now I'll probably just run ffv1/flac jsut to save myself a couple gigs or so. |
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Wyatt |
I may not even bother compressing the audio, even. |
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swebb |
Google will rate limit your IP. |
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swebb |
oops |
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22:35
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Wyatt |
LET THEM TRY. |
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dashcloud |
Wyatt: if you want to try something else, you could try x264's lossless mode |
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DFJustin |
or just upload the whole thing to archive.org |
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db48x2 |
for that to save you space, you would then have to delete your local copy |
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swebb |
I'm not a big bsd guy. |
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Wyatt |
dashcloud: AVC has a lossless profile? I somehow wasn't aware. |
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DFJustin |
well in regards to the original "what to do with it" question |
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DFJustin |
also it's worth noting that depending on how the colour spaces are set up, even a "lossless" codec may alter the video |
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Wyatt |
DFJustin: I'm totally cool with this option. I can even metadata the shit out of it because I know a lot about the production of this one. |
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Wyatt |
Well, a decent amount, at least. |
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Wyatt |
What was the option to make mplayer/ffmpeg dump a nice list of info about a file? |
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dashcloud |
ffmpeg -i , the midentify.sh script in the tools folder, or ffprobe if you have a new enough version of ffmpeg |
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dashcloud |
ffprobe is by far the best, and is machine-readable if you need that |
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Wyatt |
So looks like yuv411p. |
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22:55
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Wyatt |
What are PAR and DAR? |
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22:56
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dashcloud |
I believe pixel aspect ratio and display aspect ratio |
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Coderjoe |
correct |
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Wyatt |
Oh, no wonder it's huge. 28771 kb/s video. |
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db48x2 |
mmm |
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db48x2 |
many pretty pixels |
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Coderjoe |
Wyatt: you did say DV, right? 28mb/s is about right for DV |
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Wyatt |
I suppose it is. Too many orders of magnitude, so I usually just gloss over the math, but that number is something I understand more easily. |
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Wyatt |
But right, back to this. Is that one of the colourspace conversions that will change the output? |
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db48x2 |
if the color space changes from the source to the destination, then yes |
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db48x2 |
basically no two colorspaces have the same gamut |
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db48x2 |
and even if it's not changing the color space, it might be changing the amount of information stored about the colors |
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db48x2 |
for example, going from yuv444 to yuv 422 |
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Wyatt |
Ah, so I need to preserve the colour space. Interesting. |
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Wyatt |
I'm sort of new to the finer aspects of video stuff, but it makes good sense. |
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db48x2 |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroma_subsampling#Types_of_subsampling |
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db48x2 |
your source DV is probably yuv411 (which I think you said above) |
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db48x2 |
mpeg mostly uses yuv420 |
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Wyatt |
Now that I think about it, seeing DV in an AVI container is odd, no? |
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23:32
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Wyatt |
What a dizzying array of video formats. The number of DV variants alone is kind of crazy. |
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db48x2 |
video is more complex than it first appears |
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db48x2 |
"rectangular array of pixels, changing over time" just doesn't capture the actual complexity of the problem |
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Wyatt |
So I've been humbled to learn. |
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23:39
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dashcloud |
some less well-known video news is that some of the folks behind x264 are building x262- which aims to be the finest broadcast MPEG2 encoder available |
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23:40
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Wyatt |
About time. I've been wondering when someone would attempt to apply modern practice to mpeg2 for a while. |
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dashcloud |
if you're actually in the industry, check out OBE- Open Broadcast Encoder |
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dashcloud |
http://code.google.com/p/open-broadcast-encoder/ |