#archiveteam 2011-08-25,Thu

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01:43 🔗 db48x2 http://www.geek.com/articles/geek-cetera/google-fiber-shows-its-potential-with-151mbps-download-speeds-20110823/
01:53 🔗 Wyatt Not bad. Now they just need to increase it sevenfold. ;)
01:55 🔗 db48x2 why?
01:56 🔗 db48x2 that's faster than gigabit
02:02 🔗 Wyatt Err...150 megabits is not faster than 1000 megabits.
02:02 🔗 Wyatt err, wait
02:02 🔗 NovaKing umm
02:02 🔗 NovaKing check that again ;)
02:02 🔗 Wyatt yeah, that's an order of magnitude.
02:02 🔗 Wyatt Hm...fucking suffixe
02:03 🔗 Aranje that's like 1250mbit
02:03 🔗 Aranje err 1200 almost flat
02:04 🔗 db48x2 151 (megabytes per second) = 1.1796875 gigabits per second
02:04 🔗 Wyatt Wait, wait, wait, is that speed test thin in megabytes?
02:04 🔗 db48x2 yes
02:04 🔗 Wyatt It says "Mb/s"
02:04 🔗 NovaKing yes
02:05 🔗 Aranje speedtest does megabytes
02:05 🔗 Wyatt Then they should probably label it that way.
02:05 🔗 NovaKing Mb = Megabytes
02:05 🔗 NovaKing i know
02:05 🔗 NovaKing people use the capital the wrong way all the time
02:06 🔗 NovaKing i think it should just be mb = megabye
02:06 🔗 NovaKing mbit = megabit
02:06 🔗 Wyatt Since when? Mb is a megabit. MB is a megabyte.
02:07 🔗 NovaKing yes, like i said
02:08 🔗 NovaKing they use Mb as megabytes
02:08 🔗 NovaKing <+NovaKing> people use the capital the wrong way all the time
02:08 🔗 db48x2 which is dumb, of course
02:10 🔗 Wyatt NovaKing: Seems they're not using it wrong. Just tested it.
02:11 🔗 Aranje someone in another chan I pasted that link into is arguing me into the ground that speedtest does their tests in megabit
02:11 🔗 Wyatt Aranje: Did you try it yourself?
02:11 🔗 Aranje yes
02:11 🔗 Aranje 11.23mbps
02:11 🔗 Aranje which is about half of my actual speed, but it's peak hour
02:11 🔗 Aranje of 22mbit
02:12 🔗 Wyatt Interesting. I'm very certain I don't have a 136 Mb home connection. But 17 Mb is about right.
02:13 🔗 Aranje so what measurement did you get results in?
02:13 🔗 Aranje megabit?
02:13 🔗 Wyatt It gave me 17 megabits.
02:13 🔗 Wyatt Mb/s
02:13 🔗 Aranje mmk :)
02:13 🔗 Aranje NovaKing: It's megabit, not megabyte.
02:15 🔗 Wyatt I will say Google delivers some killer latency, though.
02:17 🔗 Aranje yeah
02:17 🔗 Aranje check this one
02:17 🔗 Aranje http://speedtest.net/result/1381442369.png
02:17 🔗 Aranje a friend of mine has that on his server
02:17 🔗 Wyatt http://speedtest.net/result/1448950604.png Just found that. Nifty little feature.
02:18 🔗 Aranje http://www.speedtest.net/result/1448951087.png
02:18 🔗 Aranje interesting
02:19 🔗 Aranje you have 3x the latency for 2/3 the distance
02:19 🔗 Wyatt Not bad, I wonder where the bottleneck in that server is.
02:19 🔗 Aranje ram
02:19 🔗 Wyatt For network performance?
02:19 🔗 Aranje It's a webserver, it's always bound at ram
02:20 🔗 Aranje though his mysql box is what falls over often enough
02:20 🔗 Aranje recursive queries are a bitch lol
02:21 🔗 Wyatt For a benchmark like this, memory shouldn't be a problem...isn't it only about a megabyte down in their test?
03:01 🔗 Wyatt Oh dear... du -h Lord_of_the_Jewel_Master.avi : 6.9G ; du -h output.avi 8.1G
03:01 🔗 Wyatt Doh!
03:16 🔗 dashcloud if you moved from lossy to lossless, that's normal
03:18 🔗 bsmith093 what is that file?
03:21 🔗 Wyatt I'm more surprised it wound up a full gigabyte larger with no colourspace conversion.
03:22 🔗 Wyatt bsmith093: Fandub parody mashup of Inuyasha and LotR.
03:22 🔗 bsmith093 ok that sounds hilarious is there a link?
03:23 🔗 Wyatt Considering I may have the only copy still in existence? Not yet.
03:23 🔗 Wyatt I'm looking to fix that.
03:24 🔗 bsmith093 oh right, good luck with the upload
03:24 🔗 Wyatt Actually considering the MTBF of hard drives and the general habits of the asshole that made this? This is the last copy anywhere...
03:25 🔗 Wyatt Now I'm kind of glad I made multiple copies.
03:25 🔗 dashcloud so how did you get a copy then?
03:26 🔗 bsmith093 hey, btw, does anyone have a copy of the old geekfu action grip podcasts, theyve been removed from the website, when the show changed focus, and i found them too late. aslo yeah , that sounds like a story.
03:26 🔗 bsmith093 how DID you get a copy/
03:26 🔗 Wyatt I worked closely with the asshole who made it until he was enough of an asshole that I decided to bail.
03:27 🔗 dashcloud so is he a talented asshole or just an asshole that got lucky?
03:28 🔗 Wyatt Sociopath who had the fortune to gather a lot of talented people to an ideal.
03:29 🔗 Wyatt Also a pedophile. That was the super tipping point.
03:29 🔗 dashcloud I'm glad you could grab a copy then
03:29 🔗 Wyatt Yeah, wish I'd had the presence of mind to raid the other hard drives.
03:30 🔗 Wyatt There was a WIP lampoon of FFX in there, too.
03:31 🔗 dashcloud such a shame- but if the talent was in the other people, hopefully they'll come together on something else in the future
03:32 🔗 Wyatt Well, we'll see. It built me good contacts in anime con world and some good experience with other stuff.
03:32 🔗 db48xOthe uh oh
03:32 🔗 dashcloud if you've got encoding questions though, #ffmpeg or #x264 on freenode can help you out
03:32 🔗 db48xOthe I want to say "triple threat", but there's only two
03:33 🔗 Wyatt Double threat?
03:33 🔗 db48xOthe yea, but that doesn't have the same ring to it
03:33 🔗 Wyatt And what are we threatening?
03:34 🔗 db48xOthe http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5782108/73/Harry_Potter_and_the_Methods_of_Rationality
03:34 🔗 db48xOthe if you haven't seen this yet, be careful
03:34 🔗 db48xOthe also, it's chapter 73, so you're coming into the middle of the story, etc
03:35 🔗 Wyatt Hahaha, it's still such a....bizarre concept that Eliezer Yudkowsky writes fanfiction.
03:35 🔗 db48xOthe indeed
03:42 🔗 DFJustin wtf http://www.fanfiction.net/robots.txt
03:43 🔗 db48xOthe oh, that's lame
03:50 🔗 Wyatt Oh piss off, that's a bastard of a move.
03:58 🔗 bbot_ oh fanfiction.net
03:58 🔗 bbot_ you zany guys
04:01 🔗 Wyatt Is "Disallow: " equivalent to "Disallow: /"?
04:03 🔗 Coderjoe oh. that's the jewel master? i must have!
04:04 🔗 Wyatt Coderjoe: You've seen it? You're well-traveled.
04:04 🔗 Coderjoe i doubt it is the only copy in existance... the people that run midnight madness at anime central had a copy last year
04:04 🔗 Wyatt Coderjoe: Probably a VHS copy, though.
04:05 🔗 Coderjoe they played it from DVD, but it may have been a transfer from VHS
04:05 🔗 Wyatt To my knowledge, this is the final master after months in Premiere.
04:06 🔗 Wyatt I wasn't aware it was still in circulation though; good to know.
04:06 🔗 Wyatt I wonder who else has a copy.
04:07 🔗 Coderjoe they generally do not give out copies, though they may trade
04:08 🔗 Coderjoe although recently they have given out some older stuff at the saturday parody panel
04:09 🔗 Wyatt Not important in this case.
04:09 🔗 Coderjoe my have been a draft or something. or perhaps a trailer
04:09 🔗 Coderjoe i no longer remember for certain
04:09 🔗 underscor DFJustin: You know what that means
04:10 🔗 underscor A continuous crawl of fanfic.net
04:10 🔗 underscor :D
04:10 🔗 Wyatt And if it's ACen, I _might_ have enough pull to get something even without invoking some other people I know.
04:10 🔗 Wyatt But that's neither here nor there. It's not happening for about ten months.
04:12 🔗 underscor Wheeeeee
04:12 🔗 underscor Finished the rewrite of the torrent backend for archive.org
04:12 🔗 underscor Anyone with spare time, feel free/please play around and test it
04:12 🔗 underscor http://www-abuie.archive.org/
04:13 🔗 underscor The torrent links should show up on any item browsed on that hostname
04:15 🔗 DFJustin so you're still coding for the archive?
04:34 🔗 Coderjoe wow
04:34 🔗 Coderjoe that fanfiction.net robots.txt file is awful
05:23 🔗 Auguste Ahoy!
06:16 🔗 Wyatt Welcome to the New Autocratic Republic of Archival Sealand. Passport?
06:30 🔗 chronomex yes, please
07:14 🔗 Wyatt Wow, I just had to explain robots.txt to a friend. Well not "had to" so much as "mentioned and answered the query with, 'it's a suicide note'".
07:14 🔗 Wyatt Seriously, good call on that description.
07:15 🔗 illunatic is it only used to tell google not to index?
07:15 🔗 illunatic or does it have other purposes?
07:15 🔗 illunatic googlecide
07:16 🔗 Wyatt Googlebot isn't nearly as abusive as Yahoo's slurp
07:17 🔗 Wyatt I'm told we routinely IP ban yahoo's indexer because it crushes our older shared servers.
07:19 🔗 ersi illunatic: It's a note to all robots visiting
07:19 🔗 ersi ie. web spiders, scripts etc
07:20 🔗 illunatic hm i was just reading something about how to tell google bot not to visit so often
07:21 🔗 illunatic i wonder if yahoo has something like that
07:23 🔗 Wyatt Maybe it does. But unfortunately we can't well stick that in the robots.txt for a few tens of thousands of domains. They get pissy when we replace their exploited timthumb with a patched copy and deny them fopen() in php.
07:27 🔗 illunatic hah
07:47 🔗 ersi illunatic: Well, sometimes people/software care about robots.txt (We in AT doesn't).. sometimes, some people just see it as "I'll fucking grab it! But I won't put it in my search index"
07:48 🔗 illunatic wget doesn't care huh
07:48 🔗 illunatic do you guys use wget usually or what?
07:48 🔗 Coderjoe yes, slirp resepects a directive on how often to hit a site
07:49 🔗 illunatic o hey weirdo!
07:49 🔗 illunatic heh
07:49 🔗 illunatic yeah that's good
07:49 🔗 illunatic ethical
07:49 🔗 ersi wget cares
07:49 🔗 ersi but there's flag that says "fuck off with the robots.txt"
07:49 🔗 Wyatt ndurner_o: I just noticed, I've been getting a lot of 302 and 404. Also it seems like a great number of these are only about 4k? Is that correct behaviour?
07:50 🔗 Coderjoe i called myself that in the comment because of the weird urge to submit that captcha. (the unknown text was really faded, but I could read it)
07:50 🔗 illunatic hah
07:51 🔗 illunatic i had a couple of good captcha screenshots
07:51 🔗 Coderjoe (what kind of weirdo comments just to submit a captcha (granted, it was a recaptcha)?)
07:51 🔗 illunatic the one that puts two random words together
07:51 🔗 illunatic you must be from the internets
07:51 🔗 Coderjoe I have a number of odd ones... from when I went to the recaptcha site and solved a bunch of them
07:54 🔗 ersi o_o
07:55 🔗 illunatic "cleavage first"
07:57 🔗 illunatic http://image.bayimg.com/jajojaadl.jpg
08:00 🔗 ndurner_o Wyatt: 302 and 404 from Google?
08:01 🔗 ndurner_o 302 is okay, but I dont remember seeing 404s
08:03 🔗 Wyatt ndurner_o: Okay, looking up further there may not be many 404. Maybe it was just some spam that got nuked? Not really sure.
08:05 🔗 ndurner_o ah, yes. Correct. For some reason, some deleted groups still show up in the indexes.
08:06 🔗 Wyatt ndurner_o: Another anomaly(?) I'm seeing is it's downloading the -pages.zip but not the -files.zip, but seems to think it's getting both.
08:08 🔗 ndurner_o it deletes empty files afterwards
08:10 🔗 Wyatt Ah
08:11 🔗 Wyatt Then in most cases there just really is less than 4k of data?
08:12 🔗 Wyatt (I should have stuck with reiserfs if I really wanted to know the size of my files...)
08:18 🔗 ndurner_o can't say if it's really *most* cases, but that's not uncommon
08:20 🔗 Coderjoe http://coderjoe.imgur.com/recaptcha
08:22 🔗 Coderjoe how do you do this one correctly?
08:22 🔗 Coderjoe http://coderjoe.imgur.com/recaptcha#C2Hol
08:29 🔗 Wyatt That is an excellent question
09:35 🔗 chronomex Coderjoe: I got some with mathematical formulae in it
09:35 🔗 chronomex upside-down greek letters
09:35 🔗 chronomex things that aren't in unicode
09:36 🔗 chronomex so I gave it the LaTeX code to render that
09:49 🔗 Wyatt I wonder when some enterprising captcha breaker will realise most of the maths captcha resolve to 1 or 0.
09:54 🔗 Wyatt ndurner_o: One more: what causes the 509s? Is it me or is it the combined aggregate of everyone?
09:56 🔗 ndurner_o everyone... and me not being at home right now to loosen the bandwidth throttle a bit again
09:57 🔗 ndurner_o (which is not too bad, that just means I'll open the gates more later)
09:57 🔗 Wyatt Ahh, can't ssh in and fix it? Sadness. :(
09:59 🔗 ndurner_o I prefer not to mix work and leisure too badly
10:28 🔗 Coderjoe chronomex: like http://coderjoe.imgur.com/recaptcha#8hjJw ?
10:29 🔗 chronomex yup
10:30 🔗 chronomex also upside-down capital pi
10:31 🔗 Coderjoe what about http://coderjoe.imgur.com/recaptcha#DlX0E
10:32 🔗 Coderjoe Time cloging http://coderjoe.imgur.com/recaptcha#rkMth
10:33 🔗 Coderjoe hehe
10:33 🔗 Coderjoe "A+++ would repull" http://coderjoe.imgur.com/recaptcha#c4RTE
10:34 🔗 chronomex heh
11:56 🔗 underscor DFJustin: Yeah, I am
11:56 🔗 underscor I suppose it's time to write a FF.net archiver
11:56 🔗 underscor ;D
11:57 🔗 ersi lool, the fuck
11:57 🔗 ersi sore wa ne
11:57 🔗 Ymgve bleh, scraping imgur will take decades
11:58 🔗 ersi scrape flickr then
12:01 🔗 Ymgve aren't you already doing that?
12:04 🔗 ersi doing and doing
12:04 🔗 ersi not with very much effort
12:06 🔗 Ymgve on a positive note: one defunct image host has released all their images in torrent form
12:07 🔗 ersi which?
12:09 🔗 Ymgve waffleimages
12:09 🔗 Ymgve specific to something awful, but it had like 300gb of images
12:10 🔗 Ymgve tho 99% of it is probably "let's play" - people playing games and screenshotting as they go along so others can follow
12:11 🔗 ersi hehe, 'k
12:15 🔗 underscor Gah, I so wish there was a way to leave messages for people on IRC
12:15 🔗 underscor (or that everyone idled 24/7)
12:16 🔗 Coderjoe several networks do... memoserv. i don't think efnet has one, however
12:17 🔗 underscor oh, that's neat
12:17 🔗 underscor Never heard of that
12:19 🔗 underscor I want one of these so bad >:| http://fukung.net/v/28045/3bf7b073726582aed24b29d395b2b8f9.jpg
12:22 🔗 ersi awesome trap
13:39 🔗 Coderjoe I kinda want something like this, but I want to use a different camera: http://blog.archive.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/muller1.jpg
13:47 🔗 SketchCow Morning.
13:49 🔗 SketchCow OK, so I do want to see what we're up to, but my oldest friend wants me for lunch at noon, so I would need to leave sooner rather than later.
13:49 🔗 ersi mmmmh, lunch
13:51 🔗 SketchCow Damn, I rendered some video
13:51 🔗 SketchCow And I appear to have rendered it at half resolution
13:54 🔗 SketchCow ah, fuck me, that is EXACTLY what happened.
13:54 🔗 SketchCow This one and the previous one.
13:54 🔗 SketchCow That's a shame.
13:56 🔗 SketchCow OK, I'm going to upload the half-resolution, and then re-render both these ones that were failures
13:56 🔗 SketchCow That'll be the way to do it.
14:20 🔗 alard SketchCow: Hi. Any news about rsync upload accounts on the new server yet?
14:25 🔗 SketchCow msg me
14:37 🔗 DFJustin underscor: I had a thought the other day, the wayback machine lets you do wildcard queries like http://wayback.archive.org/web/*/http://textfiles.com/anarchy/* , but you can't do filename ones like */something.zip
14:38 🔗 DFJustin seems like something that would be really useful for finding old software etc. and potentially not that hard to do (although I guess it depends how they have things indexed)
14:43 🔗 SketchCow http://www.archive.org/details/1979-Fall-compute-magazine
14:44 🔗 SketchCow About to add 159 just like that.
23:13 🔗 dashcloud http://contemporary-home-computing.org/1tb/archives/2933 - wow
23:18 🔗 db48x2 dashcloud: lol

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