#archiveteam 2011-08-28,Sun

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01:39 🔗 DFJustin heh found a book at the thrift store with an unopened 5.25" disk from 1992
01:39 🔗 DFJustin into the kryoflux it goes
01:43 🔗 bsmith093 so why are you archiving google groups, if google already did it?
01:43 🔗 bsmith093 not a troll, i really want to know
01:44 🔗 DFJustin we aren't archiving the groups themselves, there was a file upload feature which google is discontinuing and taking down the files from
01:45 🔗 DFJustin (for their own groups that you could create, not the old usenet ones)
01:49 🔗 SketchCow Happy to report I'm about to finish my first full-on CD-ROM scan
01:49 🔗 SketchCow Took longer than I'd like but it went tso well.
01:57 🔗 SketchCow http://www.archive.org/details/1996-04-telecom-walnutcreek
01:57 🔗 SketchCow Tah dah!
02:01 🔗 SketchCow Just updated the desk
02:01 🔗 SketchCow dsc
02:05 🔗 Cowering omg, Walnut Creek.. was using them for stuff in the late 80s.. no clue if i kept any of it though
04:43 🔗 Wyatt|Wor Hooray, my friendly friendster starball is halfway uploaded! Only 25-ish hours left.
04:44 🔗 Wyatt|Wor (Starball? Sounds awesome.)
04:45 🔗 db48xOthe :)
04:59 🔗 Coderjoe it would be faster for me to drive to columbus and hand off my data than let this file (that didn't fit on the stupid drive) finish
04:59 🔗 Coderjoe and there is still 900GB to go
05:00 🔗 db48xOthe yea, I've got about a dozen days left on my upload
05:00 🔗 Coderjoe i've got ~130 hours left on this one file
05:01 🔗 Wyatt|Wor Well keep in mind that my file is only 180GB
05:02 🔗 Coderjoe this file is only about 80GB
05:02 🔗 Wyatt|Wor But yeah, as usual, Station Wagon of Floppies has great bandwidth.
05:03 🔗 db48xOthe :)
05:03 🔗 db48xOthe very low latency though
05:03 🔗 Coderjoe high latency
05:03 🔗 db48xOthe err
05:03 🔗 db48xOthe yea, not sure how I typoed that
05:07 🔗 Coderjoe i want to see portal/stargate tech... open one at home, the other endpoint in a datacenter. run an ethernet cable through...
05:07 🔗 db48xOthe yep, I've had that daydream many times
05:08 🔗 Coderjoe (or in the case of stargate, use a point-to-point RF link, as matter apparently isn't re-integrated on the receiving end until it has all entered the gate on the sending side)
05:08 🔗 Wyatt|Wor I don't think there's a person who hasn't.
05:08 🔗 db48xOthe yea, a stargate wouldn't work since the matter is itself sent as data
05:08 🔗 db48xOthe _but_
05:09 🔗 db48xOthe if you could hijack the gates and use that enourmous bandwidth to send actual data...
05:09 🔗 Wyatt|Wor Hard drive catapult.
05:09 🔗 db48xOthe heh
05:09 🔗 Coderjoe well, in that universe, RF can pass through the gate bi-directionally
05:10 🔗 db48xOthe right
05:10 🔗 db48xOthe but it's actually being tunneled across the datastream provided by the gates
05:10 🔗 SketchCow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hy4dLkqRO8
05:10 🔗 Coderjoe (god dammit we are dorks)
05:11 🔗 DFJustin what about an iconian gate
05:11 🔗 db48xOthe those were more like Portals
05:11 🔗 db48xOthe but square and shiny
05:23 🔗 SketchCow Looking for a plug for the XLR to USB converter.
06:00 🔗 robbiet48 SketchCow: you rang?
06:01 🔗 SketchCow Yeah.
06:01 🔗 SketchCow I'm uploading a Mac CD.
06:01 🔗 SketchCow If this works, I will upload hundreds.
06:01 🔗 SketchCow If it doesn't, I will find another way.
06:01 🔗 robbiet48 ok, just let me know when/where/how i can help
06:01 🔗 SketchCow I just need to upload the 764mb ISO
06:38 🔗 ryan___ whatas the dealio with CDs?
06:42 🔗 SketchCow What ISN't the dealio
06:44 🔗 SketchCow While waiting for CD to upload, I'm blowing in metadata for Ham Radio magazine.
06:44 🔗 SketchCow http://www.archive.org/details/1987-07-hamradiomag
06:46 🔗 ryan___ ooh classic
06:46 🔗 ryan___ back in the late 90s i decided that i would back up my floppies on cdrom
06:46 🔗 ryan___ then a few years later i decided cdroms were also unreliable
06:47 🔗 ryan___ since then that data from floppy era (~ 50 mb) has been safe on raid1 disks
06:47 🔗 ryan___ alas some of it was corrupt
06:47 🔗 ryan___ those 3.5" disks
08:24 🔗 ndurner SketchCow: I have 97 GB and there are at least 4 other downloaders (alard, swebb, underscor, Paradoks; who else?)
08:25 🔗 ndurner So I *guess* it's somewhere between 500G and 1T
08:25 🔗 SketchCow Stop download the mac cd
08:25 🔗 SketchCow New image coming soon
08:26 🔗 ndurner Does that answer help?
08:27 🔗 SketchCow Are we talking about the same thing?
08:27 🔗 SketchCow We aren't, I bet.
08:27 🔗 SketchCow Got it.
08:27 🔗 SketchCow You mean google groups.
08:27 🔗 SketchCow Thanks.
08:27 🔗 ndurner yes
08:28 🔗 SketchCow Sorry, I've been deep on this Mac CD thing.
08:33 🔗 DFJustin I have 153gb of google groups
08:55 🔗 Wyatt|Wor Looks like I'm up to 2GB of groups myself.
09:19 🔗 bsmith093 ive been perusing Jason's back cataolg of blog posts, and does anyone have a copy of this Keynote: The Future is Now Rubi-Con 5, March 28, 2003, because he seems to be missing this one particular file from the archive he has of that exact con.
09:20 🔗 chronomex that's a funny hole
09:21 🔗 bsmith093 yeah i find that interesting myself
09:30 🔗 chronomex and now for some perspective: http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Conservapedia
09:33 🔗 chronomex alternately: http://www.conservapedia.com/Uncyclopedia
09:35 🔗 bbot_ "Uncyclopedia also has an article labeled "Bad Right Wing Jokes and Other Deleted Nonsense".[3] This is an example of Uncyclopedian censorship."
09:35 🔗 bbot_ uncyclopedian censorship ha ha ha
09:47 🔗 db48xOthe heh
09:47 🔗 db48xOthe both equally a waste of tiem
14:32 🔗 Coderjoe mmm
14:32 🔗 Coderjoe scumbag Earthlink: http://home.earthlink.net/~jmoleary/
16:05 🔗 underscor Coderjoe: Tables and <font> and <b>, oh my!
16:05 🔗 underscor :D
21:18 🔗 DFJustin <DFJustin> I seem to remember some emu author working on a general data file analysis tool
21:18 🔗 DFJustin this is what I was thinking of http://tlindner.macmess.org/?page_id=311
21:18 🔗 DFJustin doesn't seem to be actually released though
22:01 🔗 underscor Hmm, I wonder if DVDs of educational content count as media mail
22:02 🔗 chronomex machine-readable media counts as media mail, regardless of the content
22:03 🔗 chronomex http://pe.usps.com/text/dmm300/173.htm
22:04 🔗 chronomex paragraph 4.1(i): "Computer-readable media containing prerecorded information"
22:15 🔗 underscor Oh really?!
22:15 🔗 underscor Even if it's commercial?
22:16 🔗 chronomex I suspect so
22:16 🔗 chronomex read the rest of the section though
22:16 🔗 chronomex section 4.0 also
22:16 🔗 chronomex so, yeah.
22:18 🔗 underscor neat
22:18 🔗 underscor And the DMM is the final authority on usps rules, right?
22:18 🔗 chronomex yes
22:18 🔗 chronomex well, the DMM and the IMM
22:19 🔗 chronomex (domestic / international)
22:19 🔗 underscor (Domestic|International)?
22:19 🔗 underscor okay
22:19 🔗 chronomex bingo
22:19 🔗 underscor excellent
22:19 🔗 chronomex if you ever go to the post office and they pull out a gigantic book full of rules, that's probably the DMM
22:19 🔗 underscor So you can mail HDs as media mail, then
22:19 🔗 chronomex looks like
22:19 🔗 underscor aha
22:19 🔗 underscor That's excellent
22:19 🔗 chronomex just takes forever and a half to arrive
22:19 🔗 chronomex (or so they say)
22:20 🔗 underscor Delivery estimate from me to SketchCow is Sept 2nd
22:20 🔗 underscor That's not too bad
22:20 🔗 chronomex not bad
22:20 🔗 underscor (Some guy died and had a collection of linux format DVDs)
22:20 🔗 underscor Apparently his widow knows someone that knows someone that knows I collect weird shit
22:20 🔗 chronomex good
22:21 🔗 underscor Yeah
22:21 🔗 underscor I'm just glad Jason volunteered to take them
22:21 🔗 underscor My mom... isn't fond of my collecting nature
22:21 🔗 chronomex shocker
22:21 🔗 underscor :D
22:22 🔗 underscor So when I brought home an apple box full of DVDs and books, she was like "GFJKLS:GJFLKSGFJLKJGLFKDGJLKFJDSKLFJSDLK:FDSF"
22:38 🔗 Cowering hey Soojin, i 'archived' two more N64 carts :)
22:39 🔗 Soojin where can i obtain them?:)
22:43 🔗 Cowering super secret vault
22:44 🔗 Cowering just a few more to file away as 'nointro guys couldn't find a PAL cart that this USA guy could'
22:48 🔗 Soojin :)
22:50 🔗 swebb ndurner: There's only a few days left to hammer Google and the tracker isn't handing out work very well and has been mostly broken for the last 4 days. Can you get it back in
22:50 🔗 swebb operational order before the deadline?
23:26 🔗 db48xOthe swebb: broken?
23:39 🔗 Wyatt db48xOthe: He's probably referring to the constant stream of 509s
23:48 🔗 db48xOthe right
23:49 🔗 db48xOthe which only means that it doesn't have anything for him, and is therefore working correctly
23:54 🔗 underscor nah, 509 is throttling because of resource limits
23:54 🔗 underscor 444 is no-work-available
23:57 🔗 SketchCow 309 - server is menstruating - don't engage too much

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